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[-] HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD (27 replies)
4/5/2010 1:29:24 PM (3823 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Robert Franco/OH
4/5/2010 3:09:27 PM (4155 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/5/2010 6:18:59 PM (4209 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Robert Franco/OH
4/5/2010 9:55:08 PM (4217 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/5/2010 9:59:07 PM (4185 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Douglas Gallant/OH
4/7/2010 4:50:49 PM (4035 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
4/8/2010 11:07:08 AM (3981 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/13/2010 10:52:49 PM (6132 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - george Hubka/MI
4/17/2010 3:13:23 PM (4040 views)
WHY FOR SENATORS THEN? - george Hubka/MI
4/6/2010 8:07:55 PM (4165 views)
Re: WHY FOR SENATORS THEN? - charles jetter/OH
4/9/2010 9:17:25 PM (4032 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - charles jetter/OH
4/9/2010 9:14:19 PM (4098 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - charles jetter/OH
4/9/2010 9:11:44 PM (3931 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/10/2010 12:21:30 AM (4139 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Carl Litchfield/SC
4/12/2010 11:29:08 AM (4094 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - john rutledge/VA
4/19/2010 10:00:21 AM (4026 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/19/2010 6:51:22 PM (3995 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Slade Smith/OH
4/20/2010 3:18:17 AM (5780 views)

I am somewhat in agreement on your main point, actually.  The poor who get sick do have a baseline level of care under the current system-- the emergency room.  I think it's a lousy system, but everyone does have access to some level of health care.  Just like other essentials like food, clothing, and shelter, the rich get better quality product than the poor, but that actually is less signifcant than people think-- life does not necessarily require optimal conditions.  Consider the Bristlecone Pine, the longest-living form of life on earth, which lives in the poor soils on the inhospitable high ridges of the Sierra and the Great Basin, surviving harsh winter cold.... for up to 5000 years!

Conceptually it's really not that much of a stretch to compare emergency room health care to basic police and fire coverage.  For example, the rich augment their security from the baseline of police protection with any number of security augmentations-- monitored alarm systems, closed circuit cameras, gated communities with dedicated security personnel, etc.  And for the very rich, fire protection is augmented too.  And of course, the rich get their Cadillac health insurance plans or simply pay for premium Mayo Clinic care out of pocket. 

The vast majority of health care is stuff most of us can do for ourselves-- keeping active, eating a reasonable diet, not poisoning ourselves with intoxicating chemicals.  But most Americans fail to live a healthy lifestyle-- and they end up with very preventable and costly chronic disorders that drive up the cost of health insurance sky high for everyone.  Let's see a lot more Americans do the basics for themselves, and then come talk to me about moral imperatives for universal health care in America.

By the way, I think that you are slightly confused about the national police force thing.  I have seen no radical moves by Obama in this area.  We do have national law enforcement agencies-- the BATF, the DEA, the FBI, the SEC, etc, but I have not heard anything about the creation of a new national police force.  Perhaps you have seen a black helicopter that I have not! :-) 

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Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/20/2010 7:00:30 AM (4096 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Slade Smith/OH
4/20/2010 12:08:32 PM (5568 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/20/2010 6:20:19 PM (4121 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Slade Smith/OH
4/21/2010 1:27:44 AM (3778 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/21/2010 6:35:03 AM (3972 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Slade Smith/OH
4/21/2010 6:08:33 PM (5576 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/21/2010 6:36:17 PM (4303 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Slade Smith/OH
4/21/2010 7:26:20 PM (3935 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/21/2010 9:32:19 PM (4000 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/19/2010 11:57:25 PM (4041 views)

[+] Doctor view of health care crisis - george Hubka/MI (5 replies)
4/2/2010 9:54:50 PM (3925 views)

[+] Dumb Congressman can't speak for themself - george Hubka/MI (11 replies)
4/1/2010 7:05:32 PM (3802 views)


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