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Avanze Business Solutions - Thomas Solom/MN
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Re: Avanze Business Solutions - Kara Foster-Morales/OH
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Re: Avanze Business Solutions - Thomas Solom/MN
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Re: Avanze Business Solutions - AMANDA SELIG/AR
11/15/2022 11:42:17 AM (1235 views)
Re: Avanze Business Solutions - Kara Foster-Morales/OH
11/21/2022 10:47:35 AM (1204 views)
Re: Avanze Business Solutions - AMANDA SELIG/AR
11/21/2022 10:54:50 AM (1188 views)
Re: Avanze Business Solutions - Kara Foster-Morales/OH
11/21/2022 7:02:06 PM (1130 views)

Abstractor TAT's - David Lacher/CA
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Re: Abstractor TAT's - Rita Killary/NY
10/25/2022 9:26:59 AM (1576 views)
Re: Abstractor TAT's - DB Title Solutions/CA
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Re: Abstractor TAT's - Judy Maclauchlan/NY
10/31/2022 9:41:21 AM (1449 views)
Re: Abstractor TAT's - Paula Reynolds/FL
11/1/2022 10:47:08 PM (1355 views)
Re: Abstractor TAT's - Kurt deVries/FL
11/2/2022 11:53:07 AM (1380 views)
Re: Abstractor TAT's - Norean Pate/GA
12/19/2022 1:37:05 PM (1088 views)

BEWARE - non-payer Vistro Info Solutions, Inc. - AMANDA SELIG/AR
10/21/2022 1:27:54 PM (1693 views)
Re: BEWARE - non-payer Vistro Info Solutions, Inc. - athira Nithin/DE
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Re: BEWARE - non-payer Vistro Info Solutions, Inc. - AMANDA SELIG/AR
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Re: BEWARE - non-payer Vistro Info Solutions, Inc. - AMANDA SELIG/AR
10/24/2022 6:30:56 PM (1487 views)
Re: BEWARE - non-payer Vistro Info Solutions, Inc. - Joel Holstad/MN
12/26/2022 5:04:49 PM (1154 views)
Re: BEWARE - non-payer Vistro Info Solutions, Inc. - AMANDA SELIG/AR
1/16/2023 11:59:05 AM (918 views)

Search fees - 1995 vs. 2022 - stephen willard/OH
10/14/2022 10:59:08 AM (2198 views)
Re: Search fees - 1995 vs. 2022 - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
10/17/2022 9:36:22 AM (1798 views)
Re: Search fees - 1995 vs. 2022 - David Barajas/FL
10/20/2022 2:07:20 PM (1524 views)
Re: Search fees - 1995 vs. 2022 - A Crawford/OH
10/17/2022 11:22:51 AM (1780 views)
Re: Search fees - 1995 vs. 2022 - stephen willard/OH
10/17/2022 11:26:33 AM (1762 views)
Re: Search fees - 1995 vs. 2022 - A Crawford/OH
11/2/2022 10:35:41 AM (1458 views)
Re: Search fees - 1995 vs. 2022 - Robert Franco/OH
10/18/2022 5:26:22 AM (1733 views)
Re: Search fees - 1995 vs. 2022 - David Barajas/FL
10/20/2022 2:06:42 PM (1575 views)
Re: Search fees - 1995 vs. 2022 - Shawna Carr/AR
10/24/2022 3:34:40 PM (1449 views)
Re: Search fees - 1995 vs. 2022 - Robb Grandon/MI
11/2/2022 9:28:49 AM (1384 views)
Re: Search fees - 1995 vs. 2022 - stephen willard/OH
11/2/2022 4:12:34 PM (1426 views)
Re: Search fees - 1995 vs. 2022 - Patrick Parrish/AL
11/3/2022 2:24:39 PM (1415 views)
Re: Search fees - 1995 vs. 2022 - stephen willard/OH
11/4/2022 9:40:00 AM (1377 views)
Re: Search fees - 1995 vs. 2022 - Shon Hill/AL
11/7/2022 6:24:39 PM (1315 views)
Re: Search fees - 1995 vs. 2022 - stephen willard/OH
11/8/2022 9:59:25 AM (1248 views)

CoForge - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/9/2022 10:51:41 AM (1422 views)
Re: CoForge - Michael Rosing/IL
10/9/2022 3:05:50 PM (1854 views)
Re: CoForge - Tiffany Sylvester/FL
10/11/2022 12:39:29 PM (1707 views)
Re: CoForge - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/15/2022 5:32:13 PM (1720 views)
Re: CoForge - Pamela Gordon/TX
10/17/2022 6:04:48 PM (1541 views)
Re: CoForge - Rita Killary/NY
11/2/2022 10:47:15 AM (1324 views)
Re: CoForge - Monique Ramsey/TX
11/2/2022 2:44:16 PM (1370 views)
Re: CoForge - SUZANNE WALLACE/CA
11/28/2022 10:39:29 AM (1218 views)


Real Title Services


NATIONWIDE ABSTRAX? - Angela Sharp/CA
10/7/2022 4:42:07 PM (1795 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE ABSTRAX? - Jason Knowles/AL
10/17/2022 1:24:17 PM (1551 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE ABSTRAX? - Kurt deVries/FL
10/20/2022 4:25:09 PM (1535 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE ABSTRAX? - Nancy  Jones/PA
10/31/2022 11:46:40 AM (1346 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE ABSTRAX? - george Hubka/MI
11/2/2022 11:18:47 PM (1287 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE ABSTRAX? - Nancy  Jones/PA
11/4/2022 7:26:35 PM (1288 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE ABSTRAX? - george Hubka/MI
11/4/2022 10:08:23 PM (1249 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE ABSTRAX? - venka thimaiah/GA
11/7/2022 5:20:45 PM (1232 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE ABSTRAX? - Jason Knowles/AL
11/9/2022 1:56:45 PM (1179 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE ABSTRAX? - Ben Wilczynski/PA
11/9/2022 3:26:46 PM (1263 views)
Re: NATIONWIDE ABSTRAX? - Nancy  Jones/PA
12/13/2022 9:31:05 AM (1122 views)

Timeshare Cancellation - William Duncan/SC
10/7/2022 11:34:06 AM (6213 views)
Re: Timeshare Cancellation - george Hubka/MI
10/13/2022 8:57:23 PM (1388 views)
Re: Timeshare Cancellation - William Duncan/SC
10/17/2022 5:50:26 PM (5208 views)
Re: Timeshare Cancellation - Paula Reynolds/FL
10/17/2022 9:02:05 AM (1523 views)

Stop using fake names - Kara Foster-Morales/OH
10/3/2022 1:18:59 AM (1483 views)
Re: Stop using fake names - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
10/3/2022 3:46:04 PM (1937 views)
Re: Stop using fake names - jane guiles/AL
10/11/2022 2:40:01 PM (1682 views)

Some helpful tips - Kara Foster-Morales/OH
10/3/2022 1:18:28 AM (1153 views)

**PRAYERS FOR FLORIDA**

 

Hello.

 

It is Kara here, your favorite disgruntled yet advocating AND SWEET (I am nice in person, I swear!) vendor manager/ground abstractor from Somewhere, USA. #NotOhio #NotWestVirginia.

 

I have done a few of these before, but in view of some recent changes and trends I have been observing, and after having talks with some other boot-strap Abstractors, here I am yet again.

 

First and foremost, a shout out to my sisters and brothers in the Mortgage Industry, especially those who have been fired, laid off, often en masse. I stand with you and any Courthouse Searcher worth their salt, would do the same.

 

Down to business:

 

It is no secret (ok, maybe it is a dirty one) that most of the major players in the Title Search industry outsource offshore to foreign countries (not naming names…), even banks! I wish I was kidding with this one.

 

Before the interest hikes, companies in these countries are charging literally MERE DOLLARS, if not CENTS PER UNIT in exchange for THOUSANDS of Title Search orders per month. I am not making this up: and that is just the 3rd parties.

 

Other players, such as major banks and Title Insurers, have actual "centers" in these countries with in-house staff paid at a fraction of what it would cost for an American staff member. Ah yes, the dynamic of the cost of labor. Thank you inflation…. - NOT.

 

That being said, it is you (the actual abstractors that are boots on the ground) that are on the front lines, not them. I cannot SAVE Abstractor businesses here in America, I cannot save those in danger of being laid off (like I was) or others, nor can I save an industry combatting inflation, outsourcing, and even recently, AI. Instead, it is up to you. It starts there but it will involve all of us working together, supporting one another, and putting the tools in place to PUSH BACK. We can win long term, but it takes unification.

 

Now for the fun part. Disclaimer: I will not put actual fixed dollar amounts because I do not want to get caught up in price fixing BUT…

 

-If all of your clients are sending you are document retrievals, I advise you should be charging close to triple digits or per instrument if you want to keep your head above water. Whether you charge it flat or charge for copies, that is between you and your clients. If you DO charge for copies, keep it at courthouse rate. Do not nickel and dime your clients with marked up copy costs: the client won't like it and often the courts do not like that either. You can also, in exchange for batch orders, lower the base price per unit. That is what many offshore companies try and do…

 

-Current owners. Same as above, albeit slightly more up to 30-years, 40-years, 60-years, etc., depending on your state statute. If you are in a license-only state, you should be charging even more: that is what we call a "cornered market".

 

-Two owners. I would say +$15-25 more than what you charge for a current owner. Two owners should stop at the mark for Foreclosure Search or "Full"/Vested.

 

-Full searches or more: I should not even have to mention this, but these suckers should be at a hefty price: it is your gas, your time, your expertise, your resources, charge for it! Half up front/half at completion, etc.

 

One colleague said this: they charge the quoted "full search" price, but then after two days they charge by the hour with a four-hour minimum!

 

-Doing Commercial Searches at ground? If I were you, I would take what I said above, and double it.

 

Some other tips:

 

-Never be afraid to do a "Due Diligence" check on potential clients: we work in an industry saturated with no-payers and people who use fake names…. We are here for eachother, remember?

 

-Speaking of fake names, you can often find out who a company's owners are and where they are located by a simple Google check (as mentioned by others on this site!) or through Zoom.com. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THOSE WHO USE FAKE NAMES. IF YOU DO, YOU ARE EXPOSING YOURSELF TO EXTREMELY HIGH-RISK BUSINESS BEHAVIOR. IF IT BITES YOU, WE WARNED YOU. DO NOT COMPLAIN.

 

-TO THOSE WHO USE FAKE NAMES FOR ACQUIRING CLIENTS OR VENDORS: Please stop doing that. We are all Legal Research Professionals. We can all do some quick googling and see who you really are. From a business perspective, if you are not transparent about who you are/where you are from, that means you have something to hide. STOP…PLEASE…WE BEG YOU…FOR YOUR SAKE.

 

When I started as Vendor Manager at my old company my manager had a relationship with a "fake name company" named "Tom Hanks" (name has been changed). Long story short, I fired that company from our vendor program. Boss was pissed, but I was able to justify my actions.

 

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And that is all. I have given you, once again, some many helpful tips and insight.

It is your business, your industry. Protect it.

 

XOXO


*K*

 

Also on a personal note: Ginny and Georgia on Netflix is a really good show. ENJOY!

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Re: Some helpful tips - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
10/3/2022 3:38:16 PM (1557 views)

OFFSHORE - Michael Rosing/IL
9/29/2022 10:08:56 AM (1613 views)
Re: OFFSHORE - george Hubka/MI
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Re: OFFSHORE - Michael Rosing/IL
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Re: OFFSHORE - Naomi Backes/NC
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Re: OFFSHORE - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
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Re: OFFSHORE - CAROL DENCER/FL
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Re: OFFSHORE - george Hubka/MI
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Re: OFFSHORE - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
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Re: OFFSHORE - Bruce Lutz/PA
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Re: OFFSHORE - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: OFFSHORE - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
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Re: OFFSHORE - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: OFFSHORE - Naomi Backes/NC
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Re: OFFSHORE - Randi Erickson/MN
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Re: OFFSHORE - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
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Re: OFFSHORE - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
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Re: OFFSHORE - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: OFFSHORE - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
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Re: OFFSHORE - Naomi Backes/NC
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Re: OFFSHORE - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
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Re: OFFSHORE - george Hubka/MI
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Re: OFFSHORE - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
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Re: OFFSHORE - Naomi Backes/NC
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Re: OFFSHORE - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
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Re: OFFSHORE - Michael Rosing/IL
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Re: OFFSHORE - Alix Ott/MI
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Re: OFFSHORE - Scott Kretsch/AR
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HUD mortgage discharges - Shelly Scott/NJ
9/29/2022 9:55:06 AM (890 views)

Private Atty General - in Real Estate - Randi Erickson/MN
9/24/2022 12:37:08 PM (750 views)

Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - Kurt deVries/FL
9/23/2022 2:10:32 PM (1641 views)
Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - Jay Duncan/MO
9/26/2022 8:06:12 AM (1723 views)
Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - Lisa Daugette/AL
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Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - Lou Ann Steele/TN
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Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - A Crawford/OH
9/27/2022 10:14:15 PM (1611 views)
Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - Rita Killary/NY
9/28/2022 12:12:47 PM (1972 views)
Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - Customer  Service/OH
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Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - Bruce Lutz/PA
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Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - Judy Maclauchlan/NY
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Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - CYNTHIA DICUS/MD
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Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - Naomi Backes/NC
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Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - Naomi Backes/NC
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Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - Jill Kissell/IA
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Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - jane guiles/AL
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Re: Quotes, Estimates and ETA's - Kurt deVries/FL
10/17/2022 9:57:43 AM (1278 views)

Ameristar - jess barker/IL
9/23/2022 1:30:21 PM (1575 views)
Re: Ameristar - Craig Honeker/AZ
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Re: Ameristar - jess barker/IL
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Re: Ameristar - Craig Honeker/AZ
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Re: Ameristar - Christine Marley/IN
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Re: Ameristar - jess barker/IL
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Re: Ameristar - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Ameristar - jess barker/IL
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Re: Ameristar - jess barker/IL
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Re: Ameristar - jane guiles/AL
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Re: Ameristar - jess barker/IL
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Re: Ameristar - Rene Blevins/VA
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Re: Ameristar - jess barker/IL
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Re: Ameristar - jess barker/IL
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Re: Ameristar - Heidi Gemeling/FL
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Re: Ameristar - jess barker/IL
10/28/2022 10:26:14 AM (1195 views)
Re: Ameristar - Heidi Gemeling/FL
10/28/2022 10:50:36 AM (1196 views)

Suffolk County access issues - jennifer yezek/NY
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Re: Suffolk County access issues - george Hubka/MI
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