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A Sign of the Times - Kevin Ahern/CT
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FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC VIOLATING RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC VIOLATING RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC VIOLATING RESPA - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
9/15/2009 11:35:26 AM (4197 views)
And that is the problem... - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 11:52:07 AM (3927 views)

Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - Edward Huguenin/SC
9/13/2009 11:12:30 PM (5060 views)
Re: Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - Robert Franco/OH
9/14/2009 9:15:33 AM (4407 views)
Re: Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - edward hartung/OH
9/14/2009 7:17:17 PM (4204 views)
Re: Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 9:25:34 AM (4025 views)

E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - Scott Olsen/NH
9/11/2009 10:47:44 AM (3678 views)
Re: E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2009 11:12:53 AM (4425 views)
Re: E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - Nils Nelson/ME
9/11/2009 12:45:19 PM (4292 views)
Re: E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - george Hubka/MI
9/14/2009 8:07:06 AM (4146 views)

County Clerk Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
9/11/2009 9:51:20 AM (3616 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2009 10:00:56 AM (4309 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
9/11/2009 12:07:24 PM (4401 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Nils Nelson/ME
9/11/2009 12:52:53 PM (4249 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/11/2009 1:16:29 PM (4177 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
9/11/2009 1:55:10 PM (4167 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - george Hubka/MI
9/14/2009 8:00:51 AM (4153 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Dan Zook/NY
9/14/2009 10:14:25 AM (4169 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - William Pattison /CA
9/14/2009 11:41:23 AM (4096 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Brad Bradbury/PA
9/14/2009 1:50:04 PM (4131 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: County Clerk Fees - Dan Zook/NY
9/15/2009 8:54:35 AM (3889 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/15/2009 9:51:04 AM (3955 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Dan Zook/NY
9/15/2009 10:18:14 AM (3823 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Nils Nelson/ME
9/14/2009 11:56:07 AM (3983 views)




Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Louise Jackson/SC
9/10/2009 9:12:43 AM (4657 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Brenda Palmer/TN
9/14/2009 3:21:28 AM (4542 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Jennifer/AR
9/14/2009 10:24:12 AM (4277 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Virginia Capps/TN
9/14/2009 11:16:16 AM (4269 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Angela Johnson/NC
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Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Rick Wilkinson/TN
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MSNi - Constance Foye/VA
9/9/2009 9:04:37 PM (4426 views)
Re: MSNi - Kelli Quade/MO
9/10/2009 3:28:14 PM (4206 views)
Re: MSNi - george Hubka/MI
9/11/2009 7:03:50 AM (4190 views)
Re: MSNi - Constance Foye/VA
9/14/2009 12:30:14 PM (4113 views)

Pro-Search, Inc. - Susan McKee/WV
9/9/2009 10:51:23 AM (4159 views)
Re: Pro-Search, Inc. - Elizabeth Helman/PA
9/12/2009 9:22:14 PM (4892 views)

ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Cheryl Hartzman/PA
9/4/2009 2:41:01 PM (5233 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/8/2009 1:45:36 PM (4207 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2009 5:09:20 PM (4104 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/9/2009 8:06:24 AM (4087 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/9/2009 8:41:47 AM (4095 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/9/2009 8:58:17 AM (4009 views)

J&L in TX - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
9/3/2009 9:34:26 PM (2970 views)

Accepting Credit Cards - Dan Zook/NY
9/3/2009 1:07:29 PM (3530 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Dan Zook/NY
9/8/2009 11:22:53 AM (4074 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Michelle White/IL
9/8/2009 12:35:21 PM (4172 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Robert Franco/OH
9/8/2009 1:52:47 PM (4144 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Jessica Obitz/MD
9/15/2009 8:32:35 AM (3875 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Dan Zook/NY
9/15/2009 8:58:54 AM (3866 views)

Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/3/2009 1:03:46 AM (3739 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/10/2009 3:53:48 PM (4214 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
9/15/2009 2:24:40 PM (4181 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/17/2009 1:54:39 PM (5556 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/17/2009 4:24:02 PM (4108 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
9/17/2009 7:58:09 PM (4206 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/18/2009 1:18:49 AM (4274 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2009 9:27:37 AM (4059 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 4:59:39 PM (4120 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2009 6:51:17 PM (4039 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 8:57:45 PM (4125 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/19/2009 11:59:07 PM (4060 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/21/2009 12:11:37 PM (4097 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 1:11:33 PM (4137 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 1:08:37 PM (4096 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 12:35:50 PM (4052 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/18/2009 1:24:49 AM (4088 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 1:50:13 PM (4134 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/21/2009 2:08:51 PM (4087 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/22/2009 12:30:13 PM (4130 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/22/2009 1:18:21 PM (4105 views)

Yes... probably best to let it drop.  If you want to get involved in these types of transactions, go for it.  I'm not telling you what to do.  I'm just saying that, from a title agents perspective, it is a land flip that most knowledgeable title agents will not want to get involved with.

You clearly do not understand there is substantively no difference between B using the proceeds from C to buy property from A... AND... B borrowing money from YOU to buy the property from A with the requirement that the proceeds from the sale to C must be used to pay YOU.  Clearly, with that kind of requirement the A/B transaction is dependent upon the B/C transaction.  The A/B transaction cannot stand alone because you wouldn't loan the money without the B/C transaction already lined up and ready to go.

You need to re-read your post:

The agreement is that this money is used to fund the A-B and then paid back plus fee in the B-C transaction.  If the B-C transaction falls apart for some reason, the title company nullifies the A-B.

"If the B/C transaction falls apart - the title company nullifies the A/B transaction" - This does not describe a "stand alone transaction."  The A/B transaction necessarily depends on the B/C transaction!  A title agent would have to be nuts to agree to close that transaction.  It is clearly a land flip with all of the badges of fraud that land agents in the middle of federal investigations.  It is precisely the type of transaction that we are trained to spot and avoid. 

You clearly have a dollar signs blinding your vision - you want to loan someone money with a large fee FOR ONE DAY!  Like most get-rich-quick schemes, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. 

Clanci was clearly correct, you are taking her statement out of context.  Though, perhaps what she should have said in response to your comment ("no one here has experience...and some people have irrational fears") was "It is not fear that prevents us from not doing these transactions, nor is it a lack of experience.  It is past experiences and the laws that govern our business that we follow.”

I don't know how I could make this any more clear... you just don't want to understand.  Clearly you recognize that "each closing has to stand on it's own."  Then you want to contractually obligate the title agent to "nullify" the first transaction if the second deal falls through.  By your own words, the first transaction is dependent on the second transaction, i.e., it does not stand alone.  Your contract would make the title agent a party to a land flip.  Any agent worth his salt would send you packing.

You said:

I didn't really ask for your opinion, I asked for facts about the title business.  But you guys are having difficulty getting the basic facts of my question straight.

You got what you asked for... "My question is just about the details of this contract between the Title Co and the Trans Lender. How is this done exactly?"  You were told that the way you want to structure this deal meets the definition of a land flip and our professional opinion is that we would not get involved.  It is you that does not understand the "basic facts" of your question.  The facts you presented contemplate that the A/B transaction cannot stand alone, yet you insist that it is a stand alone transaction.  You can't have it both ways!    If the A/B transaction is "nullified" if the B/C transaction falls through, it does not stand alone no matter how many times you call it "a stand alone transaction!" 

I'm sorry you didn't like the answer you got.  You are free to go elsewhere and seek other opinions.  Sooner or later you will find someone who doesn't understand land flips and you will get a more favorable response.  Just don't say you weren't warned.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/12/2009 12:28:55 PM (4237 views)

selling searches - edward hartung/OH
8/31/2009 11:04:12 PM (3963 views)
Re: selling searches - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: selling searches - edward hartung/OH
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Re: selling searches - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: selling searches - edward hartung/OH
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Re: selling searches - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: selling searches - edward hartung/OH
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Re: selling searches - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: selling searches - shori ferrell/MO
9/28/2009 11:30:22 AM (4035 views)

new client, trust title - WAYNE QUICK/NC
8/31/2009 6:54:42 PM (3480 views)

Cleary Title - Robin Ramberg/MI
8/30/2009 8:32:56 PM (4724 views)
Re: Cleary Title - Edward Huguenin/SC
8/30/2009 10:38:38 PM (5255 views)


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