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Beaver County Abstract (& Notary Services) - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
9/18/2009 7:28:31 PM (3941 views)

Fradulent use of my company name - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
9/18/2009 9:40:15 AM (4229 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2009 9:56:00 AM (5498 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
9/18/2009 10:48:18 AM (5455 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/18/2009 4:16:48 PM (5348 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 4:49:47 PM (5326 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 4:47:03 PM (5346 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
9/18/2009 7:27:20 PM (5388 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 8:53:36 PM (5215 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - Sheila Sten/PA
9/27/2009 8:53:04 PM (4935 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - george Hubka/MI
9/28/2009 4:39:24 AM (5019 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - William Pattison /CA
9/28/2009 11:46:58 AM (5016 views)

2 owner search fees in Michigan - Ellen Maher/MI
9/16/2009 10:14:01 AM (4230 views)
Re: 2 owner search fees in Michigan - george Hubka/MI
9/17/2009 5:54:26 AM (5090 views)
Re: 2 owner search fees in Michigan - Ellen Maher/MI
9/18/2009 10:19:21 AM (5186 views)
Re: 2 owner search fees in Michigan - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 4:41:48 PM (5141 views)
Re: 2 owner search fees in Michigan - Ellen Maher/MI
9/21/2009 10:40:30 AM (5025 views)

A Sign of the Times - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/15/2009 4:51:47 PM (3506 views)

FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC VIOLATING RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 10:18:09 AM (4678 views)
Re: FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC VIOLATING RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 11:02:12 AM (8045 views)
Re: FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC VIOLATING RESPA - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
9/15/2009 11:35:26 AM (5196 views)
And that is the problem... - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 11:52:07 AM (4962 views)




Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - Edward Huguenin/SC
9/13/2009 11:12:30 PM (5478 views)
Re: Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - Robert Franco/OH
9/14/2009 9:15:33 AM (5481 views)
Re: Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - edward hartung/OH
9/14/2009 7:17:17 PM (5305 views)
Re: Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 9:25:34 AM (4998 views)

E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - Scott Olsen/NH
9/11/2009 10:47:44 AM (4084 views)
Re: E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2009 11:12:53 AM (5546 views)
Re: E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - Nils Nelson/ME
9/11/2009 12:45:19 PM (5420 views)
Re: E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - george Hubka/MI
9/14/2009 8:07:06 AM (5287 views)

County Clerk Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
9/11/2009 9:51:20 AM (3941 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2009 10:00:56 AM (5414 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
9/11/2009 12:07:24 PM (5521 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Nils Nelson/ME
9/11/2009 12:52:53 PM (5299 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/11/2009 1:16:29 PM (5247 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
9/11/2009 1:55:10 PM (5212 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - george Hubka/MI
9/14/2009 8:00:51 AM (5216 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Dan Zook/NY
9/14/2009 10:14:25 AM (5271 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - William Pattison /CA
9/14/2009 11:41:23 AM (5229 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Brad Bradbury/PA
9/14/2009 1:50:04 PM (5253 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/14/2009 3:24:07 PM (5216 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Dan Zook/NY
9/15/2009 8:54:35 AM (5026 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/15/2009 9:51:04 AM (5074 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Dan Zook/NY
9/15/2009 10:18:14 AM (4855 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Nils Nelson/ME
9/14/2009 11:56:07 AM (5032 views)

Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Louise Jackson/SC
9/10/2009 9:12:43 AM (5002 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Brenda Palmer/TN
9/14/2009 3:21:28 AM (5662 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - george Hubka/MI
9/14/2009 8:03:11 AM (5339 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Jennifer/AR
9/14/2009 10:24:12 AM (5384 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Virginia Capps/TN
9/14/2009 11:16:16 AM (5368 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Angela Johnson/NC
2/17/2011 4:48:27 PM (4889 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Rick Wilkinson/TN
8/8/2011 10:27:38 AM (4532 views)

MSNi - Constance Foye/VA
9/9/2009 9:04:37 PM (4837 views)
Re: MSNi - Kelli Quade/MO
9/10/2009 3:28:14 PM (5176 views)
Re: MSNi - george Hubka/MI
9/11/2009 7:03:50 AM (5163 views)
Re: MSNi - Constance Foye/VA
9/14/2009 12:30:14 PM (5100 views)

Pro-Search, Inc. - Susan McKee/WV
9/9/2009 10:51:23 AM (4589 views)
Re: Pro-Search, Inc. - Elizabeth Helman/PA
9/12/2009 9:22:14 PM (5915 views)

ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Cheryl Hartzman/PA
9/4/2009 2:41:01 PM (5784 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/8/2009 1:45:36 PM (5394 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2009 5:09:20 PM (5260 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/9/2009 8:06:24 AM (5331 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/9/2009 8:41:47 AM (5249 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/9/2009 8:58:17 AM (5240 views)

J&L in TX - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
9/3/2009 9:34:26 PM (3249 views)

Accepting Credit Cards - Dan Zook/NY
9/3/2009 1:07:29 PM (3869 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Dan Zook/NY
9/8/2009 11:22:53 AM (5234 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Michelle White/IL
9/8/2009 12:35:21 PM (5561 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Robert Franco/OH
9/8/2009 1:52:47 PM (5350 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Jessica Obitz/MD
9/15/2009 8:32:35 AM (4895 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Dan Zook/NY
9/15/2009 8:58:54 AM (4854 views)

Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/3/2009 1:03:46 AM (4072 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/10/2009 3:53:48 PM (5287 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
9/15/2009 2:24:40 PM (5287 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/17/2009 1:54:39 PM (6728 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/17/2009 4:24:02 PM (5183 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
9/17/2009 7:58:09 PM (5282 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/18/2009 1:18:49 AM (5326 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2009 9:27:37 AM (5154 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 4:59:39 PM (5121 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2009 6:51:17 PM (5102 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 8:57:45 PM (5155 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/19/2009 11:59:07 PM (5137 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/21/2009 12:11:37 PM (5213 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 1:11:33 PM (5264 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 1:08:37 PM (5193 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 12:35:50 PM (5118 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/18/2009 1:24:49 AM (5167 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 1:50:13 PM (5194 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/21/2009 2:08:51 PM (5399 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/22/2009 12:30:13 PM (5483 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/22/2009 1:18:21 PM (5241 views)

Yes... probably best to let it drop.  If you want to get involved in these types of transactions, go for it.  I'm not telling you what to do.  I'm just saying that, from a title agents perspective, it is a land flip that most knowledgeable title agents will not want to get involved with.

You clearly do not understand there is substantively no difference between B using the proceeds from C to buy property from A... AND... B borrowing money from YOU to buy the property from A with the requirement that the proceeds from the sale to C must be used to pay YOU.  Clearly, with that kind of requirement the A/B transaction is dependent upon the B/C transaction.  The A/B transaction cannot stand alone because you wouldn't loan the money without the B/C transaction already lined up and ready to go.

You need to re-read your post:

The agreement is that this money is used to fund the A-B and then paid back plus fee in the B-C transaction.  If the B-C transaction falls apart for some reason, the title company nullifies the A-B.

"If the B/C transaction falls apart - the title company nullifies the A/B transaction" - This does not describe a "stand alone transaction."  The A/B transaction necessarily depends on the B/C transaction!  A title agent would have to be nuts to agree to close that transaction.  It is clearly a land flip with all of the badges of fraud that land agents in the middle of federal investigations.  It is precisely the type of transaction that we are trained to spot and avoid. 

You clearly have a dollar signs blinding your vision - you want to loan someone money with a large fee FOR ONE DAY!  Like most get-rich-quick schemes, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. 

Clanci was clearly correct, you are taking her statement out of context.  Though, perhaps what she should have said in response to your comment ("no one here has experience...and some people have irrational fears") was "It is not fear that prevents us from not doing these transactions, nor is it a lack of experience.  It is past experiences and the laws that govern our business that we follow.”

I don't know how I could make this any more clear... you just don't want to understand.  Clearly you recognize that "each closing has to stand on it's own."  Then you want to contractually obligate the title agent to "nullify" the first transaction if the second deal falls through.  By your own words, the first transaction is dependent on the second transaction, i.e., it does not stand alone.  Your contract would make the title agent a party to a land flip.  Any agent worth his salt would send you packing.

You said:

I didn't really ask for your opinion, I asked for facts about the title business.  But you guys are having difficulty getting the basic facts of my question straight.

You got what you asked for... "My question is just about the details of this contract between the Title Co and the Trans Lender. How is this done exactly?"  You were told that the way you want to structure this deal meets the definition of a land flip and our professional opinion is that we would not get involved.  It is you that does not understand the "basic facts" of your question.  The facts you presented contemplate that the A/B transaction cannot stand alone, yet you insist that it is a stand alone transaction.  You can't have it both ways!    If the A/B transaction is "nullified" if the B/C transaction falls through, it does not stand alone no matter how many times you call it "a stand alone transaction!" 

I'm sorry you didn't like the answer you got.  You are free to go elsewhere and seek other opinions.  Sooner or later you will find someone who doesn't understand land flips and you will get a more favorable response.  Just don't say you weren't warned.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/12/2009 12:28:55 PM (5279 views)


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