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Pro Title - Barbara Kelley/PA
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Oil&Gas-Mineral - Kevin Curtiss/AL
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Re: Oil&Gas-Mineral - Christine Sheeler/PA
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Freedom Search & Settlement, PA - JOSEPH EMERSON/MN
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Ireport contest-vote for us! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2008 2:00:11 PM (5259 views)
Re: Ireport contest-vote for us! - michael quinn/NY
10/21/2008 11:22:42 PM (4623 views)

Examnet - shame on us! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2008 1:55:48 PM (4296 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Clanci Nelson/OH
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Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Arlene Nelson/NY
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Re: Examnet - shame on us! - shaun dente/OH
10/14/2008 3:56:03 PM (4955 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - shaun dente/OH
10/14/2008 4:03:11 PM (4872 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Robert Franco/OH
10/15/2008 1:23:23 PM (6784 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Shaun Dente/OH
10/15/2008 2:02:39 PM (4693 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/15/2008 2:14:43 PM (4620 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - G L/FL
10/15/2008 2:38:31 PM (4704 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/15/2008 4:09:30 PM (4713 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Robert Franco/OH
10/15/2008 7:02:19 PM (4728 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - . APS/NY
10/15/2008 8:11:50 PM (4530 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Helene /GA
10/15/2008 11:18:45 PM (4517 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Dan Zook/NY
10/16/2008 9:57:49 AM (4533 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Rob  Robinson/PA
10/16/2008 11:21:51 AM (4657 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Dan Zook/NY
10/16/2008 11:35:37 AM (4622 views)
I retract my critique ... - Dan Zook/NY
10/16/2008 12:11:11 PM (4652 views)
Re: I retract my critique ... - Robert Franco/OH
10/16/2008 12:23:58 PM (4657 views)
Re: I retract my critique ... - Dan Zook/NY
10/16/2008 12:48:24 PM (4518 views)
Re: I retract my critique ... - Rob  Robinson/PA
10/16/2008 12:54:17 PM (4543 views)
Re: I retract my critique ... - Dan Zook/NY
10/16/2008 12:58:52 PM (4614 views)
Re: I retract my critique ... - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/16/2008 2:28:25 PM (4587 views)
Open can worms...please let's not - Jay Duncan/MO
10/16/2008 2:42:05 PM (4473 views)
Re: Open can worms...please let's not - Scott Perry/PA
10/16/2008 2:51:35 PM (4591 views)
Last Words - Kurt deVries/FL
10/17/2008 10:47:17 AM (4580 views)
Re: Last Words - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/17/2008 3:18:35 PM (4527 views)
Re: Last Words - Kurt deVries/FL
10/17/2008 5:03:25 PM (4419 views)
Re: Last Words - . APS/NY
10/17/2008 8:00:18 PM (4480 views)
Re: Last Words - Edward Huguenin/SC
10/18/2008 2:36:58 AM (4424 views)
Re: Last Words - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/18/2008 8:06:58 AM (4467 views)
Re: Last Words - Edward Huguenin/SC
10/18/2008 8:51:29 AM (4539 views)
Re: Last Words - Robert Franco/OH
10/18/2008 12:39:33 PM (4377 views)
Re: Last Words - . APS/NY
10/18/2008 1:45:33 PM (4409 views)
Re: Last Words - Edward Huguenin/SC
10/18/2008 9:27:06 PM (4407 views)
Re: Last Words - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/20/2008 4:06:00 PM (4426 views)
Re: Last Words - Michelle/IL
10/20/2008 4:11:29 PM (4475 views)
Re: Last Words - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/20/2008 4:20:46 PM (4416 views)
Re: Last Words - michael quinn/NY
10/21/2008 11:56:59 PM (4334 views)
Re: Last Words - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/22/2008 11:09:17 AM (4366 views)
Re: Last Words - Douglas Gallant/OH
10/20/2008 5:14:03 PM (4318 views)
Re: Open can worms...please let's not - J Nisonger/CA
10/18/2008 11:02:56 PM (4496 views)
Re: Open can worms...please let's not - Jay Duncan/MO
10/19/2008 3:50:54 PM (4505 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2008 4:11:03 PM (4767 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Edward Huguenin/SC
10/14/2008 6:25:37 PM (4612 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - george Hubka/MI
10/14/2008 11:06:23 PM (4421 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Edward Huguenin/SC
10/14/2008 11:47:14 PM (4501 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - shaun dente/OH
10/15/2008 10:04:51 AM (4519 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - . APS/NY
10/15/2008 12:21:11 PM (4299 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - shaun dente/OH
10/15/2008 1:41:44 PM (4332 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Louise Jackson/SC
11/7/2008 9:29:57 AM (4024 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Clanci Nelson/OH
11/7/2008 2:48:24 PM (4089 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Rob  Robinson/PA
10/15/2008 12:36:22 PM (4216 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Edward Huguenin/SC
10/27/2008 7:40:05 AM (4106 views)




National 1 Source - Joyce/NM
10/14/2008 11:48:56 AM (3917 views)
Re: National 1 Source - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2008 2:03:27 PM (5081 views)
Re: National 1 Source - Joyce/NM
10/14/2008 2:07:17 PM (5141 views)
Re: National 1 Source - JOSEPH EMERSON/MN
10/14/2008 4:11:46 PM (5125 views)
Re: National 1 Source - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
10/20/2008 12:33:01 PM (4907 views)

Collection Agencies - Danielle Nelson/WI
10/10/2008 5:06:18 PM (3887 views)
Re: Collection Agencies - . APS/NY
10/13/2008 9:55:16 PM (4938 views)
Re: Collection Agencies - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2008 5:33:02 AM (4877 views)
Re: Collection Agencies - DIANA NYTKO/CT
10/20/2008 11:14:57 AM (4685 views)

two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Diane Cipa/PA
10/8/2008 8:03:45 PM (4062 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Patrick Scott/IL
10/8/2008 11:02:35 PM (5519 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Rob  Robinson/PA
10/9/2008 5:17:27 PM (5265 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Ellen Maher/MI
10/9/2008 6:14:54 PM (5188 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Jay Duncan/MO
10/9/2008 8:42:09 PM (5247 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Diane Cipa/PA
10/9/2008 10:50:05 PM (5306 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Dan Zook/NY
10/10/2008 9:22:41 AM (5231 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Diane Cipa/PA
10/11/2008 5:15:36 PM (5119 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/10/2008 11:34:02 AM (5242 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Robert Franco/OH
10/10/2008 12:05:36 PM (5300 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Patrick Scott/IL
10/10/2008 12:35:26 PM (5639 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - William Pattison /CA
10/16/2008 6:07:59 PM (5064 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Diane Cipa/PA
10/16/2008 8:45:36 PM (4854 views)

"The borrower read and signed the document before a notary public. The lender (not the borrower) received the signed instrument and sent it to the title company to be recorded. The escrow officer received the completed papers, sent it to her title plant who reviewed it and sent it to the Recorders Office which approved it based on statutory criteria."

It's important to understand that procedures differ throughout the country. Rob gets what I'm saying because Rob is in PA.

The borrower signed two mortgages on the same day, likely in two different closings - perhaps at the same table, one after another.

It's entirely likely that the legal descriptions - which were on separate description riders prepared by the title agent - may not have even been attached in the mortgage documents at the time of signature. In PA, the title agent sends a certified copy of the mortgage to the lender with the loan package. The title agent prepares the mortgage for recording and takes it to the courthouse, does a final bringdown and records. Very often it's the independent abstractor performing this function for the title agent. There is no escrow officer. PA is not an escrow state. There is no title plant. We have title plants but it's not the same system as you are used to.

This is clearly and simply a case of switched riders.

The abstractor in our situation, in a grantor/grantee type of index, should have noticed the two mortgages, pulled the documents, and noted the inconsistencies.

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Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Diane Cipa/PA
10/11/2008 5:25:01 PM (5114 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - george Hubka/MI
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Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Rob  Robinson/PA
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Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - William Hess/AL
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Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Rob  Robinson/PA
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Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - William Hess/AL
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Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Rob  Robinson/PA
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Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Clanci Nelson/OH
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Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Douglas Gallant/OH
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Source of Title Maintenance Notice - Robert Franco/OH
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Your opinions please--paying signing agents up front - Ronda Roaring/NY
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