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Just due coming soon - the G is here - dale/LA
9/10/2008 10:25:53 PM (2884 views)

No Pay Companies - Scott Aduddell/MO
9/10/2008 8:45:22 PM (4349 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - . APS/NY
9/10/2008 8:59:07 PM (4112 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/10/2008 9:21:30 PM (4204 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Vikki Moffitt/GA
9/11/2008 2:46:49 PM (4056 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Patrick Tarr/NE
9/15/2008 3:45:32 AM (3723 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Vikki Moffitt/GA
9/15/2008 10:22:45 AM (3699 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Scott Aduddell/MO
9/15/2008 1:10:16 PM (3863 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - michael quinn/NY
9/15/2008 5:18:39 PM (3630 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/16/2008 10:02:29 PM (3652 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Rob  Robinson/PA
9/17/2008 11:56:43 AM (3644 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Patrick Tarr/NE
9/17/2008 8:08:44 PM (3640 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - michael quinn/NY
9/17/2008 9:47:31 PM (3619 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Patrick Tarr/NE
9/18/2008 1:58:18 AM (3595 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - george Hubka/MI
9/19/2008 7:47:56 AM (3586 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - george Hubka/MI
9/16/2008 3:11:44 PM (3654 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - J Nisonger/CA
9/11/2008 7:01:58 PM (3793 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Gary/OH
9/15/2008 8:17:26 AM (3587 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Lynn simon/PA
9/17/2008 12:47:00 AM (3608 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - shori ferrell/MO
9/22/2008 11:53:53 AM (3697 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Scott Aduddell/MO
10/12/2008 1:22:28 PM (3660 views)

Workmans Comp - . APS/NY
9/10/2008 1:46:52 PM (2985 views)
Re: Workmans Comp - William Pattison /CA
9/29/2008 12:27:09 PM (3436 views)
Re: Workmans Comp - Robert Franco/OH
9/29/2008 1:50:45 PM (5896 views)

It may not be a "mis-classification." Abstractors' clients are attempting to control more and more of the abstractors business, i.e. how they are paid, how much they are paid, how they perform their searches, what they will reimburse for, etc.  The more control they exert over their "independent contractors," the less likely they would be correctly classified as contractors - and, the more likely they will be considered employees. If you classify an employee as an independent contractor and you have no reasonable basis for doing so, you may be held liable for employment taxes for that worker. 

Here is an excerpt from the IRS:

Facts that provide evidence of the degree of control and independence fall into three categories:

  1. Behavioral: Does the company control or have the right to control what the worker does and how the worker does his or her job?
  2. Financial: Are the business aspects of the worker’s job controlled by the payer? (these include things like how worker is paid, whether expenses are reimbursed, who provides tools/supplies, etc.)
  3. Type of Relationship: Are there written contracts or employee type benefits (i.e. pension plan, insurance, vacation pay, etc.)? Will the relationship continue and is the work performed a key aspect of the business?

Businesses must weigh all these factors when determining whether a worker is an employee or independent contractor. Some factors may indicate that the worker is an employee, while other factors indicate that the worker is an independent contractor. There is no “magic” or set number of factors that “makes” the worker an employee or an independent contractor, and no one factor stands alone in making this determination. Also, factors which are relevant in one situation may not be relevant in another.

I think that the way some clients attempt to dictate the terms of the the relationship, they get dangerously close to crossing the line, in which case, they would be forced to treat abstractors like employees.

I agree in most situations, it would be difficult to classify an independent abstractor as an employee.  However, this is something that the clients and the abstractors should be aware of.  Clients need to avoid micromanaging their abstractors and the abstractors need to remain autonomous and not allow their clients to run their businesses.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Workmans Comp - . APS/NY
10/1/2008 9:12:08 PM (3923 views)

The Closing Company of PA - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
9/10/2008 12:42:42 PM (3292 views)

FM and FM under the G-Man - Jay Duncan/MO
9/10/2008 10:55:38 AM (3136 views)
Re: FM and FM under the G-Man - Anita Backlund/MN
9/10/2008 11:57:41 AM (3503 views)
Re: FM and FM under the G-Man - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/10/2008 12:34:57 PM (3464 views)
Re: FM and FM under the G-Man - J Nisonger/CA
9/10/2008 1:56:40 PM (3533 views)
Re: FM and FM under the G-Man - Jay Duncan/MO
9/10/2008 2:55:46 PM (3300 views)
Re: FM and FM under the G-Man - Scott Perry/PA
9/10/2008 4:48:55 PM (3338 views)




OMG - Janis Talbot/SC
9/10/2008 5:31:41 AM (3379 views)
Re: OMG - Anita Backlund/MN
9/10/2008 11:50:23 AM (3508 views)
Re: OMG - Diane Cipa/PA
9/10/2008 3:31:43 PM (3618 views)
Re: OMG - Janis Talbot/SC
9/10/2008 4:19:19 PM (3444 views)
Re: OMG - Patrick Scott/IL
9/10/2008 7:08:37 PM (3557 views)
Re: OMG - William Pattison /CA
9/29/2008 12:41:35 PM (3300 views)

Money owe for search work for Virginia Settlement Group - Teresa Melvin/VA
9/9/2008 3:07:56 PM (3315 views)
Re: Money owe for search work for Virginia Settlement Group - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
9/9/2008 7:04:06 PM (3519 views)
Re: Money owe for search work for Virginia Settlement Group - Teresa Melvin/VA
9/10/2008 2:08:08 PM (3546 views)
Re: Money owe for search work for Virginia Settlement Group - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
9/11/2008 7:53:01 AM (3601 views)
Re: Money owe for search work for Virginia Settlement Group - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2008 10:47:10 AM (3476 views)
Re: Money owe for search work for Virginia Settlement Group - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
9/11/2008 7:58:00 PM (3349 views)
Re: Money owe for search work for Virginia Settlement Group - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
9/17/2008 8:52:46 AM (3425 views)

Direct Settlement Services - DSS - Kurt deVries/FL
9/9/2008 2:21:34 PM (3711 views)
Re: Direct Settlement Services - DSS - Brian  Worthington/OH
9/22/2008 5:39:56 AM (3436 views)

Seeking Info on US Title Solutions - Smitty Strickland/SC
9/8/2008 6:10:40 PM (3910 views)
Re: Seeking Info on US Title Solutions - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
9/8/2008 7:49:15 PM (3750 views)
Re: Seeking Info on US Title Solutions - Patrick/NY
9/9/2008 8:38:04 AM (3648 views)
Re: Seeking Info on US Title Solutions - Smitty Strickland/SC
9/9/2008 3:34:52 PM (3644 views)
Re: Seeking Info on US Title Solutions - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
9/13/2008 10:09:05 PM (3413 views)
Re: Seeking Info on US Title Solutions - Robert Lint/PA
9/15/2008 5:35:24 AM (3491 views)
Re: Seeking Info on US Title Solutions - ilona hodsdon/MA
4/27/2010 3:54:48 PM (3227 views)

Seeking Feedback on a Company - Brad Bradbury/PA
9/8/2008 4:31:38 PM (2817 views)

WHO NOT TO DO WORK FOR - Brian  Worthington/OH
9/8/2008 9:24:07 AM (3779 views)
Re: WHO NOT TO DO WORK FOR - Scott Joest/IN
12/22/2008 10:42:36 AM (3226 views)
Re: WHO NOT TO DO WORK FOR - Josh Lowe/TN
9/30/2010 9:19:54 PM (2947 views)

NACA/ Bruce Marks - KH/NC
9/8/2008 7:48:34 AM (3230 views)

abstract realty, turnersville, nj DOES NOT PaY - KIMBERLY  FALCONE/PA
9/8/2008 5:56:17 AM (2811 views)

Jury Duty Scam - Scott Perry/PA
9/8/2008 12:58:32 AM (4376 views)

At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Jan Forster/NC
9/5/2008 11:47:55 PM (5095 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Glenda Hodge/TN
9/6/2008 12:54:30 AM (3511 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Vikki Moffitt/GA
9/6/2008 11:24:22 AM (3234 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Robert Franco/OH
9/6/2008 11:39:47 AM (3251 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/6/2008 1:45:44 PM (3145 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Scott Perry/PA
9/6/2008 2:09:11 PM (3125 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - michael quinn/NY
9/6/2008 9:36:43 PM (3309 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Jan Forster/NC
9/7/2008 9:15:52 PM (3314 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/10/2008 2:58:44 PM (3135 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Robert Franco/OH
9/10/2008 3:03:25 PM (3050 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Scott Perry/PA
9/10/2008 4:35:31 PM (2983 views)


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