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Sanrit - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Sanrit - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Sanrit - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Sanrit - Jay Duncan/MO
4/9/2021 1:41:51 PM (2030 views)
Re: Sanrit - William Duncan/SC
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Re: Sanrit - Smitty Strickland/SC
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Re: Sanrit - Ron Beavers/FL
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avanzegroup.com? - Paige Bentley/TX
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Jay Duncan/MO
4/9/2021 9:11:12 AM (2460 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Kurt deVries/FL
4/9/2021 10:24:17 AM (2364 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? TYSM for the reply!! (Can't post in message, IDK why) - Paige Bentley/TX
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
4/12/2021 11:03:42 AM (2298 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Rene Blevins/VA
4/12/2021 11:35:05 AM (2445 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
4/12/2021 11:50:21 AM (2314 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Serena Stout/VA
4/27/2021 6:21:45 PM (2336 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
5/3/2021 3:01:24 PM (2142 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - george Hubka/MI
4/26/2022 8:56:06 PM (1168 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Ted Williamson/TX
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Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/8/2021 3:22:26 PM (2416 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Brandon ONeal/TN
4/8/2021 3:49:17 PM (2592 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Ron Beavers/FL
4/12/2021 10:29:02 AM (2389 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/12/2021 11:01:20 AM (2268 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Tempie Elder/GA
4/28/2021 10:33:43 AM (2180 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/28/2021 10:44:25 AM (2064 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Alix Ott/MI
5/3/2021 10:33:53 AM (2020 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Angela Sharp/CA
5/7/2021 6:46:17 AM (2179 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Serena Stout/VA
5/10/2021 9:01:34 AM (2147 views)

Thank you from ABN Legal Solutions - William Duncan/SC
4/4/2021 1:42:00 PM (2948 views)

PRO Act Bill - Jennifer Lawrence/AR
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Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
3/31/2021 2:17:49 PM (2191 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - William Duncan/SC
4/1/2021 10:25:47 AM (2580 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Patrick Parrish/AL
4/1/2021 5:20:24 PM (2388 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
4/2/2021 8:22:04 AM (2406 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - george Hubka/MI
4/12/2021 9:59:21 PM (2288 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
4/20/2021 2:20:38 PM (2182 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - george Hubka/MI
4/20/2021 3:13:08 PM (2234 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Rita Killary/NY
8/27/2021 6:22:23 PM (1834 views)

So, think I should risk it? - Alix Ott/MI
3/31/2021 2:12:10 PM (2002 views)
Re: So, think I should risk it? - Brandon ONeal/TN
3/31/2021 11:11:51 PM (2294 views)

Remote Online Notary Vendors - Jeanine Johnson/MN
3/31/2021 11:24:43 AM (1620 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary Vendors - Becky Schweitzer/OH
4/5/2021 9:48:14 AM (1993 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary Vendors - Robert Franco/OH
4/5/2021 12:19:01 PM (1927 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary info - Jeanine Johnson/MN
4/5/2021 1:27:06 PM (2173 views)

Abstract Software - Tony Costa/LA
3/29/2021 9:45:32 AM (1429 views)

SiteSolutionsService: ...really!?... - William Duncan/SC
3/26/2021 10:46:12 AM (1337 views)

There: FIXED! - William Duncan/SC
3/25/2021 9:33:06 AM (1394 views)

Abstractor Pro software - Kurt deVries/FL
3/23/2021 2:55:25 PM (2431 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Smitty Strickland/SC
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Robb Grandon/MI
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Todd Camp/NJ
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Andrew Trenary, Sr/OH
5/24/2021 11:00:10 AM (2216 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
6/4/2021 6:04:26 PM (2689 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Andrew Trenary, Sr/OH
6/20/2021 8:00:31 PM (2285 views)

...Really...? - William Duncan/SC
3/22/2021 4:01:06 PM (1959 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/22/2021 4:11:44 PM (2291 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Robert Franco/OH
3/23/2021 9:11:22 AM (2078 views)
Re: ...Really...? - William Duncan/SC
3/23/2021 9:32:31 AM (2139 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/23/2021 3:27:39 PM (2107 views)
Re: ...Really...? - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 4:31:50 PM (2168 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Judy Maclauchlan/LA
3/25/2021 10:22:25 AM (2029 views)

"Title theft" myth persists - Alix Ott/MI
3/17/2021 6:53:36 AM (2095 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Becky Schweitzer/OH
3/22/2021 9:58:58 AM (2691 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Kurt deVries/FL
3/22/2021 1:32:56 PM (2281 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/22/2021 2:19:13 PM (2247 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 4:40:23 PM (2228 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/23/2021 6:14:28 PM (2088 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 10:35:59 PM (2088 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/24/2021 12:26:20 PM (2092 views)
Again, if the general public starts searching their own properties, then there's no need for abstractors/searchers within the industry is what you are basically telling me.  

And, as an examiner, it's bad enough that there are "professional" searchers who miss deeds, easements, etc as is.  Heaven help us if the average Joe starts questioning professional services because they think they can DIY a 60 year property search.

Your job at stake, not mine   LOL  

The reality is that the "title theft" angle has to be an elaborate scheme set up by multiple parties in order to "steal" a deed.

And, as I mentioned before, if a homeowner received documentation stating they were being foreclosed on, why would they ignore it?

I was a witness to a case where a property was "sold" 4 times.  The first sale was legit to a point, with the Sellers being the actual sellers and took place in an attorney's office with me as the title witness closer only doing pick ups and marking up the binder.

The 3 subsequent "sales" were done within 5 days of the original closing.  Same "buyer" as the first closing.  Had a NJ DL for ID.  The subsequent "sellers" were ringers who looked very much like the real sellers, physically.

Apparently, a car dealership had been hacked and ID theft of all their clients.  Think about it, a dealership has the same info on a buyer, esp if they financed the car.  So name, ID, address, SS etc

The subsquent sales were conducted by attorneys.  The all accepted a "payoff" statement from the existing lender being paid off bc funds from the first transaction was wired to the bank.  However, that bank did not provide a ZERO BALANCE letter.  They accepted the old payoff statement only and did not question anything raised a red flag:

1. Why is the Seller paying off a mortgage that had been 6 months in arrears, just 2 days before closing?

2. Where did the Seller obtain funds, since they had not made a house payment in 6 months?

3. Where was proof and source of funds?

The list goes on and on.  The person whose Identity was stolen knew nothing about these transactions.  They were not against his property.  The theft ring used only his name and credit, but not his address.

So, he received notices that he was in foreclosure from 4 different banks on a property he had never owned.

Now, flip this entire idea back to a person who owns a property.  If you started receiving notices that your loan is behind, you would not question that if  A. You don't have a mortgage?  B. You have a mortgage but your payments are on time.

The premise of the "Title Theft" insurance is to make sure your deed is secure?  It's pretty unlikely that someone is going to just waltz in and make a copy of your deed to gain access to your info.  Your deed is signed by who you bought it from.  Your deed does not have your signature on it.

So, that means the thief would need to have a document with your signature on it.   Well, a mortgage would have the signature, sure.  But what if you don't have a mortgage?

Then you have to take the whole thing through the closing process.  So, the notary would have to be in on it, b/c they have to ID you, a bank/loan office would have to be in on it, since they take all your financials, the title agency would have to be in on it, b/c yes, we DO look at signatures to make sure they match documents, whoever is conducting the closing would have to be in on it, b/c they have to verify your source of funds, etc.

So in essence, it's not really that easy to create a bogus deed, obtain a new mortgage and close on it.  The standard risk protocols would question how the "new deed holder" came into title.

Title insurance manages the risk. 


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Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/24/2021 12:26:22 PM (2365 views)

Abstractor Watchdog - DEBRA ALLEN/KS
3/16/2021 11:46:52 AM (2626 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Alix Ott/MI
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Re: Abstractor Watchdog - John Baker/OH
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