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Datatrace - Barbara Bennett/IN
9/24/2007 1:42:05 PM (2832 views)
Re: Datatrace - Seth Levine/MD
9/24/2007 5:27:11 PM (2997 views)
Re: Datatrace - Julie Jasiunas/WI
9/24/2007 5:41:54 PM (2656 views)
Re: Datatrace - Seth Levine/MD
9/24/2007 6:17:27 PM (2617 views)
Re: Datatrace - Amy Tatusko/VA
9/24/2007 7:47:46 PM (2671 views)
Re: Datatrace - KS/IN
9/24/2007 8:04:36 PM (2788 views)
Re: Datatrace - Barbara Bennett/IN
9/24/2007 10:40:11 PM (2944 views)
Re: Datatrace - Richard Palen/FL
9/26/2007 1:00:29 PM (2638 views)
Re: Datatrace - Seth Levine/MD
9/27/2007 2:45:46 PM (2567 views)
Re: Datatrace - Kim Hawkins/MI
10/1/2007 6:51:37 PM (2940 views)
Re: Datatrace - Robert Franco/OH
10/1/2007 8:05:32 PM (3036 views)

So ATM is Now Servicelink? - DS/NC
9/24/2007 1:10:32 PM (3047 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
9/24/2007 1:20:56 PM (3045 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - DS/NC
9/24/2007 1:23:48 PM (3020 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/24/2007 5:35:24 PM (2768 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - Robert Breakell/CT
9/27/2007 8:34:05 AM (2752 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - Wanda Steudel/OH
9/27/2007 10:26:55 AM (2869 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - elizabeth reddy/FL
10/2/2007 9:34:38 AM (2832 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - george Hubka/MI
10/29/2007 8:18:20 AM (2525 views)

Lost another one, Nationstar - Amy Tatusko/VA
9/24/2007 12:52:13 PM (3197 views)

Equifax fee redux ???? - george Hubka/MI
9/21/2007 11:03:24 PM (2637 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - David Chisolm/MS
9/21/2007 11:33:50 PM (2750 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - Jon Lax/RI
9/24/2007 8:42:53 AM (2653 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - DS/NC
9/24/2007 1:49:35 PM (2513 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - george Hubka/MI
9/25/2007 2:45:30 AM (2574 views)

TITLE PLANT - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
9/21/2007 10:33:43 AM (2742 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/21/2007 10:54:11 AM (2863 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
9/24/2007 12:23:56 PM (2614 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - Kathy Taylor/CO
9/24/2007 10:56:09 PM (2597 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - Faith Burns/MD
9/25/2007 12:08:28 PM (2375 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - Ron McPherson/IA
9/29/2007 1:16:17 AM (2583 views)




What would you include? - Amy Tatusko/VA
9/21/2007 8:50:19 AM (2539 views)
Re: What would you include? - Deborah Manion/VA
9/21/2007 10:15:23 AM (2434 views)
Re: What would you include? - David Chisolm/MS
9/21/2007 11:37:29 PM (2507 views)
Re: What would you include? - Robert Franco/OH
9/22/2007 7:11:26 PM (4339 views)
Re: What would you include? - Dennis D/NY
9/23/2007 6:07:17 PM (2532 views)
Re: What would you include? - Ardel Richter/AR
10/1/2007 8:58:13 PM (2452 views)

Selling company/non-payment/company names - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 5:56:17 PM (2671 views)
Re: Selling company/non-payment/company names - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2007 6:09:51 PM (2471 views)
Re: Selling company/non-payment/company names - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 8:18:46 PM (2479 views)
Parkway - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 9:02:45 PM (2568 views)
great stuff Kevin, thanks very much - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 8:57:33 PM (2402 views)
Re: great stuff Kevin, thanks very much - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/21/2007 8:27:42 AM (2557 views)

Express Finanacial Article - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 10:47:28 AM (2784 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2007 12:28:42 PM (2451 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 1:25:02 PM (2370 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Scott Perry/PA
9/21/2007 8:15:50 PM (2583 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 7:09:04 AM (2663 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Michele Horger/MI
9/21/2007 4:35:52 PM (2436 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Loretta Reed/MD
9/22/2007 8:53:06 AM (2662 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 9:18:04 AM (2625 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Loretta Reed/MD
9/22/2007 9:38:50 AM (2605 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 9:51:21 AM (2615 views)

Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/19/2007 5:54:03 PM (2648 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - David Chisolm/MS
9/19/2007 7:47:50 PM (2483 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 8:52:14 PM (2483 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 8:57:16 PM (2410 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - David Chisolm/MS
9/19/2007 9:03:25 PM (2396 views)
To anger even more - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
9/20/2007 8:33:09 AM (2366 views)
very good points - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 5:58:22 PM (2308 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Rob  Robinson/PA
9/25/2007 1:46:05 PM (2483 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/25/2007 4:02:39 PM (2563 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/25/2007 6:15:31 PM (2589 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/25/2007 8:14:45 PM (2571 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Patrick Scott/IL
9/25/2007 11:53:42 PM (2520 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/26/2007 1:42:16 PM (2591 views)

Hey Steve,

    nice idea about charging an amount suitable to the size of the loan (that is what you meant, right?).  The only draw back I see is that abstractors would only get paid IF the loan closed.  Ouch. 
     I wish that we would get paid the appropriate amount for a search vs the risk, but with some abstractors willing to complete current owner searches for $15 to $20 and full searches for $40 it is difficult to get the desired fee.  
     The second difficulty is determining when or if the loan closed to be sure that the abstractor got paid.  This would involve numerous updates of the recorder's office for the recorded mortgage.
     I believe a more suitable pricing structure might be the time spent on the search.  If it took an hour to complete the search we should be paid more than if the same current owner search only took 15 minutes because they bought it 2 months ago.  Something with full searches, charge by the hour.  It is already done with most commercial searches why not residential.  Of course the client would want checks and balances (totally understandable), they should not be charged for 3 hours of work if the borrower just bought the property 3 months ago.  Most professions work this way, i.e. attorneys, doctors, contractors, almost any other service and/or professional industry does.  Will this be an almost impossible feat to accomplish, probably. 
      To make this so and to survive Title companies really need to charge for their service regardless of the loan closing or not.  They must pay for the search and then they complete the commitment which takes time and money as well.  They should charge a cancellation fee enough to cover their costs. 
     The LO should only order title when all other requirements are fulfilled and they know the loan will close.  Judgments and Federal and State Tax Liens already show on most credit reports, so they already have an idea if the loan is going to make it through the underwriter.  This will require the LO to be educated or become educated, instead of just anyone walking off the street and 10 minutes later they are a LO.
     A lot of what is going on in the title industry is self-inflicted by the title companies and the abstractors.  I know Robert wrote an article or post entitled "Are we our on worst enemy" or something very similar.  The title companies by bowing to the demands of the lenders, who know nothing about title, and the abstractors by lowering their prices and in turn their professionalism by reducing themselves to a necessary evil.
     It has been pointed out be others before, if we not consider ourselves professionals then who will?

jmho
Jay

 

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Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/26/2007 4:17:46 PM (2668 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/26/2007 4:28:38 PM (2530 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/26/2007 4:56:38 PM (2532 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/30/2007 10:31:26 PM (2478 views)

Counselor's Title/Lombard,Il - Barbara Bennett/IN
9/19/2007 5:26:28 PM (2891 views)

Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Loretta Reed/MD
9/19/2007 5:07:12 PM (2747 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 5:22:07 PM (2587 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/19/2007 9:05:47 PM (2513 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
9/20/2007 2:17:54 PM (2449 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/20/2007 3:10:17 PM (2458 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Rick Wilkinson/TN
9/26/2007 11:59:20 AM (2688 views)

Fidelity National Financial - Irving, TX - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 4:16:56 PM (2710 views)
Re: Fidelity National Financial - Irving, TX - Angela Swafford/FL
9/24/2007 7:43:12 AM (2716 views)

Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 5:31:40 AM (2554 views)
Re: Email from India - Kim Cowles/WI
9/18/2007 8:08:11 AM (2709 views)
Re: Email from India - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2007 8:50:24 AM (2841 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 12:11:11 PM (2343 views)
Re: Email from India - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2007 1:12:41 PM (2284 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 1:27:27 PM (2349 views)
Re: Email from India - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 9:51:55 AM (2322 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 5:14:01 PM (2398 views)
Re: Email from India - Scott Perry/PA
9/18/2007 6:43:38 PM (2197 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 6:51:47 PM (2422 views)

the N symbol - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 12:57:11 AM (2471 views)
Re: the N symbol - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2007 9:06:46 AM (4156 views)
Re: the N symbol - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 9:39:34 AM (2568 views)

ESS Solutions, LLC - Russ Frye/GA
9/17/2007 11:20:32 PM (2686 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 12:31:30 AM (3022 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Russ Frye/GA
9/19/2007 10:38:52 AM (2681 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
9/19/2007 4:03:39 PM (2719 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Carol Walker/AZ
9/19/2007 9:14:57 PM (2670 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Lisa/MD
9/20/2007 9:34:59 AM (2656 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/20/2007 8:18:11 PM (2868 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Janis Talbot/SC
9/24/2007 6:32:28 AM (2946 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
9/21/2007 12:10:16 AM (2711 views)


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