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My Abstractor? - Kurt deVries/FL
11/2/2006 4:31:52 PM (2695 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Scott Perry/PA
11/2/2006 4:42:54 PM (2639 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Dorothy Payne/NY
11/2/2006 11:54:52 PM (2721 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Scott Perry/PA
11/3/2006 11:16:33 AM (2708 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/3/2006 7:07:17 AM (2622 views)
No access.......hmmm - Jay Duncan/MO
11/3/2006 8:27:28 AM (2762 views)
Re: No access.......hmmm - Kurt deVries/FL
11/3/2006 10:03:36 AM (2621 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Leroy & Sue Lewis/GA
11/3/2006 10:06:18 AM (2910 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Craig Honeker/AZ
11/3/2006 10:19:18 AM (2671 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Julie Jasiunas/WI
11/3/2006 10:23:50 AM (2629 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/3/2006 10:27:22 AM (2678 views)
Just goes to show you... - Jay Duncan/MO
11/3/2006 10:55:30 AM (2662 views)
Re: Just goes to show you... - Robert Franco/OH
11/3/2006 11:25:44 AM (2654 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Robert Franco/OH
11/3/2006 11:23:07 AM (4257 views)

A response to Forbes Mag. on behalf of FLORIDA - Laura Macias/FL
11/2/2006 10:59:46 AM (2247 views)
Re: A response to Forbes Mag. on behalf of FLORIDA - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 11:19:55 AM (2437 views)

Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Slade Smith/OH
11/1/2006 8:24:23 PM (3244 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - George Booth/OH
11/1/2006 10:59:32 PM (2580 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Angelica Schneider/IN
11/2/2006 12:34:05 AM (2572 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Slade Smith/OH
11/2/2006 3:11:05 AM (2603 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/2/2006 6:36:47 AM (2687 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 10:18:24 AM (2561 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 10:10:23 AM (2557 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - George Booth/OH
11/2/2006 11:58:08 AM (2550 views)

Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Pete Kisan/OH
11/1/2006 7:04:44 AM (2621 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/1/2006 7:27:24 AM (2646 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Pete Kisan/OH
11/1/2006 7:56:32 AM (3997 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 8:56:15 AM (4141 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 10:32:08 AM (2713 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Danielle Nelson/WI
11/1/2006 5:53:45 PM (2714 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Patrick Scott/IL
11/1/2006 8:59:27 PM (2637 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Slade Smith/OH
11/1/2006 9:15:44 PM (2654 views)
ALTA's response to Forbes Mag - Jay Duncan/MO
11/2/2006 7:58:19 AM (4169 views)
Forbes Rocks - Jan Forster/NC
11/2/2006 8:31:49 AM (2783 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 10:00:02 AM (3962 views)

HAPPY HALLOWEEN - Angelica Schneider/IN
10/31/2006 12:40:16 PM (1853 views)




Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 11:52:33 AM (2751 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
10/31/2006 2:03:24 PM (2419 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 4:28:14 PM (2516 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 12:46:30 PM (2376 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
11/1/2006 2:29:05 PM (2430 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 3:33:16 PM (2332 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Loretta Reed/MD
10/31/2006 10:23:26 PM (2305 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 10:54:44 AM (2267 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 11:14:19 AM (2262 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 11:29:42 AM (2285 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/1/2006 11:35:57 AM (2284 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 11:50:10 AM (2275 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 11:51:35 AM (2245 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/1/2006 12:31:01 PM (2268 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 12:57:20 PM (2292 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 2:06:39 PM (2309 views)

Thanks Wendi.  I do think I take the side of the abstractor, but what is done is done.  Nothing at this point is going to help the abstractor in this instance, except for Contemporary to work its way out its current problems.  I suppose that it would be better for the abstractors if Contemporary were able to get an equity line to payoff their previous obligations.  However, that is beyond the abstractors' control... maybe contemporary is not in a strong enough financial position to do so, in which case it is beyond anyone's control.

I think the problem goes far beyond this particular situation.  It is an industry-wide problem.  In any business, clients or customers for some reason wind up not being able to pay their obligations.  In most business, losses, whether from customers not paying their bills or shoplifting, are a part of doing business and the potential costs are built into their fees.

What makes our business so difficult is that we operate on a "work-now, pay-later" system that has slowly gone from the standard NET30, to NET45, to NET60, and, the fees have been slowly decreasing, rather than keeping up with our rising expenses.  Just today I received a notice that our health insurance premiums are going up again this year, by another 12% to 14%.  Unfortunately, I cannot raise my prices.

This means that our profit margin does not allow us the flexibility to absorb losses of this magnitude.  In fact, we are often not in a position to wait longer than expected for payment.  I find this very disturbing.  Certainly, I do not think it is fair that the abstractors are forced to suffer these consequences, you are quite correct in your statement "Why are the abstractors the ones who suffer when we are the ones LEAST likely to be able to stay afloat."  However, I think this is a symptom of a greater problem than Contemporary's current situation. 

There are a lot of forces at work in this scenario... and unfortunately, we as abstractors have caused a lot of them.  I am not referring to anyone in particular, but the whole group of us.  We work in an industry where abstractors are completely unregulated.  There are no barriers to entering the abstracting business.  This has created a lot of competition.  In a down market it gets even worse because when abstractors get laid off from title companies, they go independent.  And everyone, in order to get new business (or keep existing business) is willing to accept lower fees.  This in turn puts more pressure on the rest of us to lower our fees. 

Now, we find that what may have been an "acceptable" fee when there was more work than we could handle, is not enough to pay our bills when things are slow.  Because fixed costs don't go down when the volume of work drops off, it gets tougher to make ends meet in these situation.  Unfortunately, that also means that when one client unexpectedly isn't paying their invoice the effect is felt even more so.

If our fees would have increased by the same percentage as our expenses over the past 5 years, I don't think that this particular problem would have had nearly such a dramatic effect on anyone.  Please don't misunderstand me, I still think this is a tragedy.  My heart really goes out to Loretta; I can certainly empathize. 

My only point here is that whatever the situation with Contemporary, or any other client  in the past that has not paid their abstractors in a timely fashion, that is a part of doing business (as lousy as that may be).  It is just sad that in our profession it has such a devastating effect.

(Sorry for the long post.)

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
11/1/2006 12:30:50 PM (2252 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Loretta Reed/MD
11/1/2006 3:36:11 PM (2262 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Kurt deVries/FL
11/1/2006 3:49:17 PM (2245 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 3:55:33 PM (2348 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 3:58:59 PM (2540 views)
Enough already... - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 4:43:43 PM (2398 views)
Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 5:31:02 PM (2383 views)
Re: Enough already... - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 6:01:12 PM (2262 views)
Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 6:24:23 PM (2182 views)
Re: Enough already... - Loretta Reed/MD
11/1/2006 6:08:12 PM (2339 views)
Re: Enough already... - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 6:17:50 PM (2223 views)
Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 6:52:25 PM (2186 views)
Re: Enough already... - Angelica Schneider/IN
11/1/2006 6:56:52 PM (2251 views)
Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 7:13:30 PM (2214 views)
Re: Enough already... - Jan Forster/NC
11/1/2006 8:16:40 PM (2197 views)
Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Ted Lannon/MA
11/1/2006 9:05:16 PM (2333 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Angelica Schneider/IN
11/2/2006 12:28:35 AM (2191 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Jim Girardi/NY
11/3/2006 10:33:02 AM (2244 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/3/2006 10:53:44 AM (2186 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - george Hubka/MI
11/6/2006 7:37:03 PM (2285 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - george Hubka/MI
11/6/2006 6:58:25 PM (2238 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jay K/MD
11/2/2006 8:30:47 AM (2196 views)

Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Rich M/ME
10/30/2006 9:05:07 PM (2587 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Ted Lannon/MA
10/30/2006 9:57:03 PM (2834 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/31/2006 7:39:40 AM (2810 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 8:35:20 AM (2613 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/31/2006 9:01:05 AM (2640 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 9:27:33 AM (2595 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/31/2006 9:38:13 AM (2627 views)

U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
10/30/2006 11:40:02 AM (2818 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Tamara Henderson/GA
10/31/2006 3:45:37 AM (2819 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Wendi See/SC
10/31/2006 11:23:35 AM (2874 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/1/2006 6:50:40 PM (2649 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 6:56:37 PM (2624 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/2/2006 4:59:05 PM (2514 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/1/2006 6:51:31 PM (2545 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - george Hubka/MI
11/6/2006 7:21:03 PM (2475 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/7/2006 5:41:38 PM (2472 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/1/2006 6:49:08 PM (2617 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Scott Perry/PA
11/2/2006 10:44:14 PM (2470 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Tamara Henderson/GA
11/4/2006 9:03:52 AM (2564 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Wendi See/SC
11/4/2006 10:23:11 AM (2486 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/6/2006 6:10:12 PM (2481 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/6/2006 6:02:35 PM (2441 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Vikki Moffitt/GA
11/7/2006 7:28:24 AM (2448 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/7/2006 5:39:14 PM (2433 views)

Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - David Bloys/TX
10/28/2006 10:36:01 AM (3764 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Ted Lannon/MA
10/30/2006 2:44:44 PM (2615 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Ted Lannon/MA
10/30/2006 3:07:45 PM (2737 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Robert Franco/OH
10/30/2006 3:20:20 PM (2764 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Jay Duncan/MO
10/30/2006 6:06:53 PM (2778 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Ted Lannon/MA
10/30/2006 7:45:34 PM (2731 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Jay Duncan/MO
10/30/2006 10:12:12 PM (2805 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Kurt deVries/FL
10/30/2006 10:33:35 PM (2717 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 2:12:47 AM (2744 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Kurt deVries/FL
10/31/2006 9:51:41 AM (2501 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Wendi See/SC
10/31/2006 11:12:08 AM (2501 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Wendi See/SC
10/31/2006 11:13:51 AM (2610 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - David Bloys/TX
10/31/2006 10:48:42 AM (2517 views)

Sorry...not really - Jay Duncan/MO
10/27/2006 5:37:08 PM (2334 views)
Re: Sorry...not really - Scott Perry/PA
10/27/2006 9:00:33 PM (2455 views)
Re: Sorry...not really - Jay Duncan/MO
10/29/2006 4:14:32 PM (2620 views)
Re: Sorry...not really - Scott Perry/PA
10/29/2006 7:41:29 PM (2512 views)
Re: Sorry...not really - Patrick Scott/IL
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Re: Sorry...not really - Angelica Schneider/IN
10/29/2006 9:21:19 PM (2487 views)
Re: Sorry...not really - Kurt deVries/FL
10/30/2006 9:41:07 AM (2587 views)

Housing Prices Decline - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/27/2006 5:28:54 AM (2404 views)
Re: Housing Prices Decline - Scott Perry/PA
10/27/2006 7:31:27 AM (2569 views)
Re: Housing Prices Decline - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/27/2006 9:04:46 AM (2690 views)
Re: Housing Prices Decline - Robert Franco/OH
10/27/2006 11:27:29 AM (2682 views)
Re: Housing Prices Decline - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/28/2006 9:26:21 AM (2668 views)
Re: Housing Prices Decline - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Housing Prices Decline - Douglas Gallant/OH
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Re: Housing Prices Decline - Scott Perry/PA
10/28/2006 7:08:01 PM (2758 views)
Re: Housing Prices Decline - Jay Duncan/MO
10/29/2006 8:13:03 PM (2604 views)
Re: Housing Prices Decline - monica froese/ME
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Re: Housing Prices Decline - PHILIP YIANILOS/VA
11/1/2006 7:09:05 PM (2417 views)
Re: Housing Prices Decline - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/30/2006 6:24:17 AM (2518 views)
Housing Prices Decline or Off the Market - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
10/30/2006 8:26:20 AM (2547 views)
Re: Housing Prices Decline or Off the Market - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Housing Prices Decline - john franz/NJ
10/30/2006 3:42:07 PM (2640 views)

ATTN: Firefox users - slade smith/OH
10/26/2006 9:41:52 AM (2272 views)
Re: ATTN: Firefox users - Dave Pell/GA
10/26/2006 10:12:32 AM (2337 views)

Elections Website Exposed Over 1 Million Voters to Identity Theft and Voter Fraud - David Bloys/TX
10/25/2006 11:51:35 PM (3119 views)
Re: Elections Website Exposed Over 1 Million Voters to Identity Theft and Voter Fraud - Jan Forster/NC
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Re: Elections Website Exposed Over 1 Million Voters to Identity Theft and Voter Fraud - David Bloys/TX
10/26/2006 1:12:51 AM (2382 views)
Re: Elections Website Exposed Over 1 Million Voters to Identity Theft and Voter Fraud - Scott Perry/PA
10/26/2006 7:09:55 AM (2392 views)

10 Tips on Hiring Your Clients - Jan Forster/NC
10/23/2006 2:22:26 AM (3535 views)
Re: 10 Tips on Hiring Your Clients - Robert Franco/OH
10/23/2006 10:50:03 AM (2393 views)
Re: 10 Tips on Hiring Your Clients - Wendi See/SC
10/23/2006 11:02:36 AM (2460 views)

Title Camp - Sara Leamon/NC
10/22/2006 8:33:25 PM (2593 views)
Re: Title Camp - Wendi See/SC
10/22/2006 9:13:44 PM (2512 views)
Re: Title Camp - Sara Leamon/NC
10/22/2006 10:10:33 PM (2486 views)
Re: Title Camp - Jan Forster/NC
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Re: Title Camp - Patrick Scott/IL
10/24/2006 9:47:47 AM (2399 views)
Re: Title Camp - Jan Forster/NC
10/24/2006 11:58:38 AM (2417 views)
Re: Title Camp - Wanda Steudel/OH
10/25/2006 11:52:48 AM (2508 views)
Re: Title Camp - Barry Campbell/NY
10/29/2006 10:25:50 PM (2331 views)
Re: Title Camp - Wendi See/SC
10/30/2006 11:31:01 AM (2551 views)
Re: Title Camp - Barry Campbell/NY
10/31/2006 11:47:27 AM (2564 views)
Re: Title Camp - Jan Forster/NC
10/31/2006 1:54:24 PM (2454 views)
Re: Title Camp - Wendi See/SC
10/31/2006 3:27:13 PM (2345 views)
Re: Title Camp - Scott Perry/PA
11/1/2006 7:28:08 PM (2373 views)


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