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Website outage - Slade Smith/OH
10/6/2015 4:20:52 PM (1587 views)

Title Plant Software - Tanya Stevens/MS
10/6/2015 9:36:14 AM (2200 views)
Re: Title Plant Software - Kathy Taylor/CO
11/2/2015 10:59:02 AM (1908 views)

How to find county lines - Alix Ott/MI
10/4/2015 5:01:23 PM (2428 views)
Re: How to find county lines - george Hubka/MI
10/5/2015 8:51:09 AM (2148 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Alix Ott/MI
10/5/2015 8:55:23 AM (2176 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Alix Ott/MI
10/5/2015 8:55:56 AM (2183 views)
Re: How to find county lines - george Hubka/MI
10/5/2015 9:27:48 AM (2177 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Anita Backlund/MN
10/5/2015 4:30:26 PM (2046 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Alix Ott/MI
10/5/2015 7:13:09 PM (2016 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Eric Reed/WV
10/5/2015 7:23:33 PM (2023 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Alix Ott/MI
10/6/2015 9:03:15 AM (2011 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Jeffrey Land/NJ
2/1/2016 10:55:37 AM (1662 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Karen Hurley/KY
3/11/2016 4:53:41 AM (1691 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Julia Thomas/OH
10/12/2015 1:27:09 PM (1904 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Alix Ott/MI
1/25/2016 12:40:40 PM (1671 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Allen Bruce/OH
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Re: How to find county lines - Jeffrey Land/NJ
2/1/2016 10:48:18 AM (1704 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/25/2016 2:40:11 PM (1747 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Allen Bruce/OH
2/13/2016 6:08:38 PM (1565 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Alix Ott/MI
2/14/2016 7:40:48 AM (1724 views)
Re: How to find county lines - MICHELLE TURNER/OH
2/15/2016 2:22:56 PM (1510 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Alix Ott/MI
2/15/2016 2:57:38 PM (1630 views)
Re: How to find county lines - MICHELLE TURNER/OH
2/15/2016 3:03:43 PM (1580 views)
Re: How to find county lines - Google Earth - James Powell/MI
2/23/2016 12:28:35 PM (1539 views)

POSTING RE: BAD PAYS/ETC - Heidi Gemeling/FL
10/3/2015 7:25:36 PM (2151 views)

SATISFYING A MORTGAGE AND THEN RE-RECORDING IT TO CORRECT - Heidi Gemeling/FL
10/3/2015 6:51:07 PM (2223 views)
Re: SATISFYING A MORTGAGE AND THEN RE-RECORDING IT TO CORRECT - Lynda Cooke/VA
10/4/2015 10:48:55 AM (2269 views)

Not an attorney. Just interested in the subject.

I think there are multiple issues going on here. Without court intervention looks like the lender has lost the rights to real property resulting in this debt becoming an unsecured debt. If the debt is unpaid, (I suspect it is) their recourse is against the debtor personally and not the property. 

Of course, they can throw their selves on the mercy of the court and ask to have the instrument “re-formed” and will likely win that battle. The court hears and will have sympathy for the intent of the parties.  But that’s not our job. Record title is what we are about. 

Great place for the discussion of whether or not the original “error” was blatant enough to invalidate the lien sought to be created or was just cosmetic in nature. We will leave that discussion for another day. 

First up is the issue of the certificate of satisfaction. The land records, so far as notice to innocent purchasers for value……until the re-recording, shows a clear title. That’s the standard of care. The lender, through their own act, released the property from the lien of the debt. Any purchaser was rightly without notice of the debt still owning between the original debtor and the lender. Sorry, for your luck lender. The new purchase would be, I believe, free and clear of the released mortgage. Lender is left to collect just like any other unsecured creditor.  Lender better hope the seller hasn’t squandered the proceeds. 

Next issue is the re-recording of the Mortgage. If it was re-acknowledged by the debtor, I’d say it’s a good lien. If not, its technically invalidly recorded and fails to create a valid lien of record. Another boo boo on the lender’s part. Creating yet another instance where (without court intervention) the lender’s recourse is against the debtor personally as an unsecured creditor. 

What they have created is a title quagmire. I’d be covering my tracks as an examiner on both sides of the issue. Reporting the lien as a title objection for down line purchasers/lenders.  AND also take the position of objecting to the manner of its recording, if asked to insure the re-recording as a valid lien. Nice mess. 

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Re: SATISFYING A MORTGAGE AND THEN RE-RECORDING IT TO CORRECT - Mark Sheffield/MD
10/12/2015 8:19:33 AM (1754 views)




Copy fees, etc. - Marian Severance/PA
10/1/2015 8:59:18 PM (3386 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Copy fees, etc. - Marian Severance/PA
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Re: Copy fees, etc. - Michael Madden/RI
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Re: Copy fees, etc. - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Copy fees, etc. - Michael Madden/RI
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Re: Copy fees, etc. - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Copy fees, etc. - Michael Madden/RI
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Re: Copy fees, etc. - Lynda Cooke/VA
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Re: Copy fees, etc. - David Bloys/TX
10/4/2015 10:18:58 AM (2072 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - WAYNE QUICK/NC
10/5/2015 8:31:17 AM (1959 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Scott Perry/PA
10/3/2015 3:57:45 PM (2098 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Michael Madden/RI
10/4/2015 8:12:52 AM (1963 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Constance Foye/VA
10/5/2015 9:56:16 AM (1959 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Michael Madden/RI
10/4/2015 8:12:55 AM (1943 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Rita Killary/NY
10/4/2015 9:43:24 AM (2068 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Scott Perry/PA
10/4/2015 12:40:56 PM (2081 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Lu Rivera/PA
2/21/2016 11:28:13 PM (1408 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Lu Rivera/PA
2/21/2016 11:28:18 PM (1507 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Michael Madden/RI
2/22/2016 5:17:00 PM (1458 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - David Bloys/TX
10/4/2015 12:11:53 PM (4651 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - David Bloys/TX
10/2/2015 8:00:04 PM (2024 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Joyce Obrien/PA
10/2/2015 10:49:46 PM (1966 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Marian Severance/PA
10/4/2015 7:45:01 PM (1908 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - george Hubka/MI
10/5/2015 9:11:30 AM (1767 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Robert Franco/OH
10/5/2015 9:25:42 AM (1849 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Jean Lurtsema/AK
10/15/2015 12:05:46 PM (1862 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - REBECCA RIZZONELLI/PA
12/21/2015 1:24:11 PM (1582 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Allen Bruce/OH
2/13/2016 6:17:23 PM (1490 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - WAYNE QUICK/NC
10/5/2015 8:23:37 AM (1795 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Bruce Lutz/PA
12/14/2015 3:19:24 PM (1623 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Serena Stout/VA
10/5/2015 10:25:53 AM (1890 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - george Hubka/MI
10/5/2015 12:57:18 PM (1875 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Serena Stout/VA
10/5/2015 1:09:03 PM (1942 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Lu Rivera/PA
10/5/2015 4:27:57 PM (1793 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Marian Severance/PA
10/5/2015 6:44:45 PM (1756 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Aaron Thorpe/NY
10/5/2015 4:37:50 PM (1888 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Mark Rasnick/OH
10/6/2015 9:51:16 AM (1843 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - David  Umphenour/MO
10/5/2015 5:06:46 PM (1762 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Randi Erickson/MN
10/6/2015 10:24:47 AM (1865 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Marian Severance/PA
10/7/2015 7:59:05 AM (1849 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/8/2015 8:08:29 AM (1996 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Allen Bruce/OH
1/25/2016 12:11:14 PM (1437 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Marian Severance/PA
1/25/2016 5:45:07 PM (1409 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Allen Bruce/OH
1/25/2016 6:08:58 PM (1302 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Marian Severance/PA
1/25/2016 8:28:42 PM (1380 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - Allen Bruce/OH
1/25/2016 6:14:15 PM (1389 views)
Re: Copy fees, etc. - REBECCA RIZZONELLI/PA
2/15/2016 11:25:44 AM (1336 views)

CLS Direct, Inc. (aka) - Wayne Brown/VA
9/30/2015 12:37:22 PM (2512 views)
Re: CLS Direct, Inc. (aka) - Ryan Thorpe/NY
10/2/2015 4:47:04 PM (1705 views)
Re: CLS Direct, Inc. (aka) - george Hubka/MI
10/5/2015 9:13:11 AM (1597 views)
Re: CLS Direct, Inc. (aka) - Ryan Thorpe/NY
10/5/2015 11:58:42 AM (1631 views)
Re: CLS Direct, Inc. (aka) - Dan Zook/NY
10/15/2015 3:56:28 PM (1693 views)
Re: CLS Direct, Inc. (aka) - Henry Meyer/ME
11/18/2015 10:05:46 AM (1406 views)

TRID and the encryption issues - Alix Ott/MI
9/30/2015 11:43:00 AM (2174 views)
Re: TRID and the encryption issues - Patrick Scott/IL
9/30/2015 8:42:18 PM (1758 views)
Re: TRID and the encryption issues - Robert Franco/OH
10/2/2015 9:45:50 AM (1660 views)
Re: TRID and the encryption issues - george Hubka/MI
10/5/2015 9:06:14 PM (1669 views)
Encryption issue - is your report public or private? - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
10/2/2015 8:42:44 AM (1553 views)
Re: TRID and the encryption issues - Jeffrey Land/NJ
2/1/2016 11:34:11 AM (1200 views)

Atlantic Title Abstract ??? - M Adams/KY
9/29/2015 10:58:04 AM (2136 views)
Re: Atlantic Title Abstract ??? - Nils Nelson/ME
9/29/2015 3:07:12 PM (1820 views)

You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - Kenneth Signor/SC
9/28/2015 7:01:30 PM (4419 views)
Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/28/2015 8:11:27 PM (2931 views)
Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - Kenneth Signor/SC
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Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - M Adams/KY
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Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - Kenneth Signor/SC
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Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - Alix Ott/MI
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Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read -  Mary Pouliezos/MO
10/12/2015 12:54:16 PM (1976 views)
Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - Robert Franco/OH
10/2/2015 9:52:48 AM (2195 views)
Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - Jim A/WV
10/3/2015 8:34:26 AM (2051 views)
Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - REBECCA RIZZONELLI/PA
10/5/2015 9:14:49 AM (2019 views)
Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - george Hubka/MI
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Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - MICHELLE TURNER/OH
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Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - Wendi See/SC
10/5/2015 11:21:51 AM (2069 views)
Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - jane guiles/AL
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Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - Cate Jones/NH
11/23/2015 9:32:29 AM (1854 views)
Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - george Hubka/MI
1/14/2016 8:50:59 PM (1644 views)
Re: You Have Got To Be Kidding - Please Read - jane guiles/AL
2/23/2016 9:33:45 PM (1468 views)

Foreclosure on an affordable unit - what a mess - Leigh Attridge/MA
9/28/2015 6:52:04 PM (2030 views)
Re: Foreclosure on an affordable unit - what a mess - Michael Solt/PA
9/29/2015 4:25:12 PM (1717 views)
Re: Foreclosure on an affordable unit - what a mess - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/5/2015 7:50:56 AM (1578 views)

String Information Services - jess barker/IL
9/28/2015 4:50:09 PM (2388 views)
Re: String Information Services - george Hubka/MI
9/28/2015 6:09:47 PM (1943 views)
Re: String Information Services - David Bloys/TX
9/28/2015 9:01:30 PM (2118 views)

Capstone Title Services LLC - KAREN ROBERTS/PA
9/28/2015 9:13:34 AM (3298 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Randi Erickson/MN
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Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - KAREN ROBERTS/PA
9/28/2015 5:47:02 PM (2126 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - M Adams/KY
9/29/2015 12:00:37 PM (1962 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Paul Barrett/SC
10/2/2015 12:18:50 AM (1988 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Will Duncan/NC
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Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Jim A/WV
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Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - george Hubka/MI
10/5/2015 9:20:49 AM (1684 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Stephen Watson, Jr./WV
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Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - KAREN ROBERTS/PA
10/20/2015 5:04:31 PM (1843 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Stephen Watson, Jr./WV
10/20/2015 5:19:25 PM (1658 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - KAREN ROBERTS/PA
10/20/2015 6:36:18 PM (1751 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Stephen Watson, Jr./WV
10/20/2015 7:23:16 PM (1896 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Katrina Patterson/AR
10/26/2015 9:12:50 AM (1603 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Stephen Watson, Jr./WV
1/19/2016 10:55:54 AM (1479 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - george Hubka/MI
1/14/2016 8:56:02 PM (1705 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Stephen Watson, Jr./WV
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Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Stephen Watson, Jr./WV
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Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - KAREN ROBERTS/PA
10/20/2015 5:33:33 PM (1932 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Stephen Watson, Jr./WV
10/20/2015 6:00:18 PM (1867 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Jim A/WV
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Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - WAYNE QUICK/NC
11/30/2015 9:04:19 AM (1708 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Jim A/WV
11/30/2015 9:07:06 AM (4523 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Patricia Perry/WV
1/19/2016 1:34:44 PM (1649 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Cheri Hasslinger/MD
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Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Stephen Watson, Jr./WV
2/1/2016 8:44:43 AM (1450 views)
Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Cheri Hasslinger/MD
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Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Stephen Watson, Jr./WV
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Re: Capstone Title Services LLC - Thomas Rance/PA
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MERS in Court - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/26/2015 8:12:44 PM (2093 views)
Re: MERS in Court - Henry Meyer/ME
11/18/2015 10:09:25 AM (1424 views)

Not getting paid by offshore co's. - Randi Erickson/MN
9/25/2015 6:24:12 PM (3755 views)


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