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Lawyers Advantage - doesn't pay - Serena Stout/VA
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Re: Lawyers Advantage - doesn't pay - Donna McCullough/SC
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Alabama Adopts Due Process for Property Rights Act - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Alabama Adopts Due Process for Property Rights Act - Slade Smith/OH
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Re: Alabama Adopts Due Process for Property Rights Act - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Alabama Adopts Due Process for Property Rights Act - Slade Smith/OH
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Re: Alabama Adopts Due Process for Property Rights Act - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Alabama Adopts Due Process for Property Rights Act - Slade Smith/OH
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Re: Alabama Adopts Due Process for Property Rights Act - Scott Perry/PA
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Thieves of Light Built by Barbarians - Leigh Attridge/MA
6/8/2012 8:59:36 AM (4594 views)
Re: Thieves of Light Built by Barbarians - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Thieves of Light Built by Barbarians - Slade Smith/OH
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Re: Thieves of Light Built by Barbarians - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Thieves of Light Built by Barbarians - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Re: Thieves of Light Built by Barbarians - Scott Perry/PA
6/8/2012 12:58:25 PM (3848 views)

Broker yield spread premiums, re-labled - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
6/7/2012 4:08:07 PM (2770 views)
Re: Broker yield spread premiums, re-labled - Wyatt Bell/FL
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Re: Broker yield spread premiums, re-labled - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
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Re: Broker yield spread premiums, re-labled - Wyatt Bell/FL
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Fidelity National and kickbacks - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
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Life Estate - F P/VA
6/7/2012 10:17:34 AM (2942 views)
Re: Life Estate - F P/VA
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Re: Life Estate - F P/VA
6/7/2012 11:01:00 AM (4161 views)
Re: Life Estate - Robert Franco/OH
6/7/2012 4:23:14 PM (4258 views)

Very interesting. I think it would help to break it down and take a look at the interest each person held after each conveyance. The following is my opinion, based on common law, but state law may require a different result.

Also, you reference Ralph Alan Lloyd and Ralph Allen Lloyd. I have assumed that was a typo, which is incredibly easy to do with all of these names. I am also assuming Robert Lee Lloyd is Robert Lee Lloyd, Sr. where it does not specify Jr. or Sr.

1. Robert Larry Lloyd holds a life esate and Ralph Alan Lloyd and Robert Lee Lloyd, Jr. have a vested remainder.

2. Robert Larry Lloyd no longer has an interest. Robert Lee Lloyd and Doris Lloyd hold a life estate pur autre vie for the life of Robert Larry Lloyd. Ralph Alan Lloyd and Robert Lee Lloyd, Jr. still have a vested remainder.

3. The heirs of Robert Lee Lloyd and Doris Lloyd hold a life estate pur autre vie for the life of Robert Larry Lloyd. Ralph Alan Lloyd and Robert Lee Lloyd, Jr. still have a vested remainder.

4. Doris Lloyd, Ralph Allen Lloyd, and Robert Lee Lloyd, Jr. (assuming they and Ralph Alan Lloyd are the only heirs of Rober Lee Lloyd, Sr.) conveyed their life estate pur autre vie, and Ralph Alan Lloyd and Robert Lee Lloyd, Jr. conveyed their remainder interest, to Ralph Alan Lloyd. Thus the life estate and remainder interests have merged to create fee simple title in severalty held by Ralph Alan Lloyd.

5. This should confirm that there are not other heirs who may have inherited Robert Lee Lloyd, Sr.'s life estate pur autre vie.

Your analysis is close, I think that you are correct in that Ralph Alan Lloyd owns the property by himself (a fee simply in severalty). And, Robert Larry Lloyd did not need to join in the execution of Deed #4 because he conveyed his life estate in Deed #2. However, when Robert Larry Lloyd conveyed his life estate, it did not void the remainder; it converted it to a life estate pur autre vie (for the life of another) for which there was still a remainder.

Thank you for posting this one... what a doozie! Looks like it came straight off a law school Property final exam.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Life Estate - F P/VA
6/7/2012 5:47:17 PM (3972 views)

Marion Sandler, Home Lender Who Made Billions, Dies at 81 - Scott Perry/PA
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Assessor's Office in the Basement - Jay D/MO
6/5/2012 7:58:57 PM (2945 views)
Re: Assessor's Office in the Basement - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Assessor's Office in the Basement - Robert Franco/OH
6/6/2012 2:44:30 PM (4339 views)
Re: Assessor's Office in the Basement - Jay D/MO
6/7/2012 1:17:33 AM (4265 views)
Re: Assessor's Office in the Basement - Scott Perry/PA
6/7/2012 9:25:38 AM (4158 views)

Middlesex North Registry of Deeds computer malfunctioning - Leigh Attridge/MA
6/5/2012 3:16:16 PM (2945 views)
Re: Middlesex North Registry of Deeds computer malfunctioning - Jessica Talley/FL
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Re: Middlesex North Registry of Deeds computer malfunctioning - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Middlesex North Registry of Deeds computer malfunctioning - Jessica Talley/FL
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Re: Middlesex North Registry of Deeds computer malfunctioning - Jeffrey Land/NJ
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Re: Middlesex North Registry of Deeds computer malfunctioning - Jessica Talley/FL
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Re: Middlesex North Registry of Deeds computer malfunctioning - Jeffrey Land/NJ
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Re: Middlesex North Registry of Deeds computer malfunctioning - Jessica Talley/FL
6/12/2012 11:13:04 AM (3903 views)

EPA defends aerial surveillance - Scott Perry/PA
6/5/2012 7:45:54 AM (3827 views)

New Value for Land in Rural Ohio - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Re: New Value for Land in Rural Ohio - Alix Ott/MI
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Re: New Value for Land in Rural Ohio - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Re: New Value for Land in Rural Ohio - Alix Ott/MI
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Re: New Value for Land in Rural Ohio - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: New Value for Land in Rural Ohio - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Comment on ""You Didn't Really Want That Tree, Did You?"" - Source of Title/OH
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A broad swathe - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Re: Comment on ""You Didn't Really Want That Tree, Did You?"" - Scott Perry/PA
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The broad language is offensive... - Robert Franco/OH
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NSTAR Plans to Cut 1000 trees - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Re: NSTAR Plans to Cut 1000 trees - Slade Smith/OH
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Re: NSTAR Plans to Cut 1000 trees - Slade Smith/OH
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Re: NSTAR Plans to Cut 1000 trees - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Jersey City, Boonton in dispute over repairing cliff that threatens to damage properties - Scott Perry/PA
6/4/2012 9:20:58 AM (3570 views)

If These Barns Could Talk - Leigh Attridge/MA
6/3/2012 9:04:44 AM (3690 views)

The Mortgage Fraud Fraud - Leigh Attridge/MA
6/2/2012 10:24:11 PM (4035 views)


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