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Service1st, Service 1st, Service First, Valuenet - David Marks/VA
10/29/2011 10:31:22 AM (2593 views)
Re: Service1st, Service 1st, Service First, Valuenet - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/31/2011 10:51:03 AM (2565 views)

Mortgage regulator, Edward DeMarco, at home with criticism - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/27/2011 8:06:31 AM (3494 views)

Comment on "Another Big County Goes After MERS Back Fees" - Source of Title/OH
10/26/2011 7:00:19 PM (2374 views)
MERS - J. H./OH
10/26/2011 7:00:19 PM (3942 views)

Rasa Solutions - Bridget Marinelli/PA
10/26/2011 10:41:11 AM (3074 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - rod hefner/KS
10/26/2011 11:11:47 AM (2723 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Bridget Marinelli/PA
10/26/2011 3:40:25 PM (2628 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - rod hefner/KS
10/27/2011 7:33:55 AM (2751 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions Kudos for Rod Hefner - Kym/NJ
11/2/2011 10:15:26 AM (2803 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Denise DeMattei/CA
10/26/2011 12:57:08 PM (2675 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/26/2011 1:32:02 PM (2590 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Bridget Marinelli/PA
10/26/2011 3:45:05 PM (2720 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Bridget Marinelli/PA
10/26/2011 3:43:03 PM (2558 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/26/2011 4:14:54 PM (2621 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Bridget Marinelli/PA
10/27/2011 9:20:39 AM (2934 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/27/2011 4:26:42 PM (2979 views)
Envelope Icon - great for email! - Kym/NJ
11/2/2011 10:16:59 AM (2391 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Tony Costa/LA
10/31/2011 8:18:17 AM (2479 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Kym/NJ
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Re: Rasa Solutions - Greg Weiss/IL
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Congratulations Are In Order - Patrick Scott/IL
10/25/2011 8:45:54 PM (2028 views)




Surprise on Refi Revamp: Key Regulator Agrees to Reforms - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/25/2011 3:21:38 PM (3641 views)

Comment on "NAR: Existing Home Sales Edge Down in September" - Source of Title/OH
10/25/2011 2:24:02 AM (1712 views)

Comment on "Breaking the Tie-- or Not" - Source of Title/OH
10/24/2011 8:01:51 PM (2312 views)
What about the document numbers? - Daniel Silverburg/CA
10/24/2011 8:01:52 PM (2514 views)
CA underwriters - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 8:42:38 PM (2471 views)
Re: CA underwriters - Robert Franco/OH
10/24/2011 10:05:29 PM (2548 views)
Re: CA underwriters - Slade Smith/OH
10/25/2011 5:44:23 AM (6097 views)
Re: CA underwriters - William Pattison /CA
10/26/2011 2:17:42 AM (2394 views)
Re: CA underwriters - Slade Smith/OH
10/26/2011 3:21:37 AM (2424 views)
lien priority is your answer - William Pattison /CA
10/26/2011 3:01:26 PM (2618 views)

"My" explanation  is the industry standard:  8am setback time is used to assure the marketable title is passed in order to specifically check and verify lien priority WHILE preventing new, unindexed (yet) liens from taking superior position.

 Envision this:  a title company misses the 8am recording deadline and is, for one morning, forced to record 60 documents at the public counter (by check) at 8:15 am, in line with others.  Before those 60 documents can be individually reviewed by the Registrar's staff, the title agent must check the Grantor Grantee Indices of Official Records to ensure that no other liens have recorded in the past few days which is the gap period between title company records and the current county records.  

 In this scenario, 7 members of the public record documents.  Most likely they don't affect the subject 60 documents (which are probably about 25 property transactions).  However, in my scenario, one does and it acquires a 8:04 a.m. time stamp on a $2,000,000 lien.  Furthermore, to add insult to injury, a mechanics lien that has been sitting and awaiting processing in the county's backroom mail bin is picked up by "Larry" and recorded at 8:09 a.m. after he's had his morning coffee and settles down to his routine.  Finally, to really highlight the problem, another title company is recordng another mortgage paper the same morning at 8am.  That 8am mortgage is SAFE as it has a priority of time.  Your late title agent's package is subject wholly to a mortgage, a lien and a mechanics lien.  

This is why it's a race to the counter state:  It makes no sense that two contractors at 4:00 p.m. being served on different counters and getting identical time stamps and one other lien upstairs in the mail processed with the same time stamp are all equal in exact form.  This ruling fails to account for serial  numbers issued in  sequence.  Otherwise, what exactly is the point of issuing numbers in seuqence instead of randomly?

 Also, institutional wrongdoing does not create a lawful custom or tradition:  years of robosigning, forcing minorities to sit on the back of a bus,, or slavery does not legitimize illegal acts, any more than a  service providers' unwillingness to share names between title companies exempts them from liability for claims losses when one goes before another, otherwise I would not have spent 25 years being told by title officers to PULL files from the submission que at 8am, because we found other companies with open orders that needed to be recorded in proper sequence.

 

 

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But L.A. is Different... - Daniel Silverburg/CA
10/31/2011 8:23:32 AM (2359 views)
Re: But L.A. is Different... - Slade Smith/OH
10/31/2011 1:25:11 PM (4887 views)
Re: But L.A. is Different... - William Pattison /CA
11/7/2011 8:16:56 AM (2321 views)

Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Kimberly Goode/GA
10/24/2011 12:55:23 PM (2639 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Barbara Bennett/IN
10/24/2011 3:46:44 PM (2698 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Jodi Thornton/MS
10/24/2011 6:07:39 PM (2655 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Dan Zook/NY
10/26/2011 9:19:37 AM (3572 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Kristine Bjorge/OR
3/27/2012 5:14:08 PM (2156 views)

another company who does not pay - Anthony BROWNN/VA
10/24/2011 11:35:44 AM (2829 views)
Re: another company who does not pay - Anthony BROWNN/VA
10/24/2011 11:47:17 AM (2857 views)
Re: another company who does not pay - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 2:20:36 PM (2787 views)
Re: another company who does not pay - Anita Backlund/MN
10/26/2011 10:14:45 PM (2554 views)
Re: another company who does not pay - Jason Knowles/AL
10/24/2011 3:41:09 PM (2666 views)

What Are Your Thoughts on This - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/22/2011 8:34:17 AM (2596 views)
Re: What Are Your Thoughts on This - Robert Franco/OH
10/22/2011 7:32:43 PM (2565 views)
Re: What Are Your Thoughts on This - Anita Backlund/MN
10/23/2011 11:58:00 AM (2412 views)
Re: What Are Your Thoughts on This - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/25/2011 7:50:51 AM (5246 views)
Re: What Are Your Thoughts on This - john rutledge
10/31/2011 10:10:08 AM (2275 views)

Mass Land Records crappy new system - we need feedback - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/21/2011 9:05:29 AM (3760 views)
Re: Mass Land Records crappy new system - we need feedback - christine hughes/MA
10/24/2011 8:25:56 AM (2632 views)
Re: Mass Land Records crappy new system - we need feedback - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/24/2011 9:55:36 AM (2835 views)
Recommendations - William Pattison 
10/24/2011 1:07:40 PM (2387 views)

Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/20/2011 5:52:49 PM (2644 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Nils Nelson/ME
10/20/2011 8:59:50 PM (2701 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/21/2011 4:39:47 AM (2706 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/21/2011 7:04:20 AM (2557 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/21/2011 9:00:44 AM (2538 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/21/2011 9:07:50 AM (2721 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/21/2011 9:21:40 AM (2590 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/21/2011 3:23:28 PM (2556 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Sheila Sten/PA
10/23/2011 9:30:45 PM (2561 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Sheila Sten/PA
10/23/2011 9:30:47 PM (2465 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/23/2011 10:29:23 PM (2541 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/24/2011 9:34:37 AM (2444 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Jodi Thornton/MS
10/24/2011 6:05:40 PM (2359 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/25/2011 6:53:10 AM (2506 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/25/2011 9:17:12 AM (2384 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Jodi Thornton/MS
10/31/2011 7:59:46 AM (2360 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
11/2/2011 6:58:43 AM (2329 views)

Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/20/2011 12:28:47 PM (4248 views)
Re: Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2011 1:25:25 PM (2472 views)
Re: Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/20/2011 2:38:46 PM (2394 views)
Re: Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2011 9:43:50 PM (2490 views)
Re: Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Anita Backlund/MN
10/21/2011 1:14:15 PM (2386 views)
Re: Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Steve Vinciguerra/NY
10/24/2011 8:56:55 AM (2328 views)

Aracor is Not Paying - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/20/2011 10:46:35 AM (3769 views)
Re: Aracor is Not Paying - Joyce Obrien/PA
10/24/2011 1:55:17 PM (2773 views)
Re: Aracor is Not Paying - Joyce Obrien/PA
11/4/2011 6:24:09 PM (2493 views)
Re: Aracor is Not Paying - Bruce Lutz/PA
11/3/2011 4:00:40 PM (2681 views)


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