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Comment on "Breaking the Tie-- or Not" - Source of Title/OH
10/24/2011 8:01:51 PM (2956 views)
What about the document numbers? - Daniel Silverburg/CA
10/24/2011 8:01:52 PM (4097 views)
CA underwriters - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 8:42:38 PM (4052 views)

California title underwriters have relied upon the following principles:

1.  The date and time stamp show priority.

2.  When the date and time stamp are the same, then the county assigned series number is the second default.

 In most CA counties, multiple title companies record documents at 8am every day, as the county provides a set-back time to 8:00 a.m.  While all the papers are handed to the county staff by 7:50 a.m., the actual processing time is around 11:00 a.m. because of the time needed to rectify minor document errors (pages out of order or misoriented, illegible notary seals, need for cover pages, etc...,) and the time to clear the index of last-minute lien matters recorded on the prior day ("name runs"). 

This means that, without the set-back time to 8am, such papers would record after many mailed liens are processed and many public-persons' papers are walked in.  Thus the time established priority, despite the numbering appearing serially AFTER those other mentioned papers.

But, since all the title companies effectively record concurrently at 8am, the priority then goes to the serial number.

 Some states are not "first to the counter" states, so this will vary.  What did Ohio say in the ruling?

 

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Re: CA underwriters - Robert Franco/OH
10/24/2011 10:05:29 PM (4035 views)
Re: CA underwriters - Slade Smith/OH
10/25/2011 5:44:23 AM (7823 views)
Re: CA underwriters - William Pattison /CA
10/26/2011 2:17:42 AM (3988 views)
Re: CA underwriters - Slade Smith/OH
10/26/2011 3:21:37 AM (3991 views)
lien priority is your answer - William Pattison /CA
10/26/2011 3:01:26 PM (4149 views)
But L.A. is Different... - Daniel Silverburg/CA
10/31/2011 8:23:32 AM (3903 views)
Re: But L.A. is Different... - Slade Smith/OH
10/31/2011 1:25:11 PM (6550 views)
Re: But L.A. is Different... - William Pattison /CA
11/7/2011 8:16:56 AM (3903 views)

Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Kimberly Goode/GA
10/24/2011 12:55:23 PM (3268 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Barbara Bennett/IN
10/24/2011 3:46:44 PM (4265 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Jodi Thornton/MS
10/24/2011 6:07:39 PM (4225 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Dan Zook/NY
10/26/2011 9:19:37 AM (5117 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Kristine Bjorge/OR
3/27/2012 5:14:08 PM (3755 views)

another company who does not pay - Anthony BROWNN/VA
10/24/2011 11:35:44 AM (3591 views)
Re: another company who does not pay - Anthony BROWNN/VA
10/24/2011 11:47:17 AM (4368 views)
Re: another company who does not pay - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 2:20:36 PM (4236 views)
Re: another company who does not pay - Anita Backlund/MN
10/26/2011 10:14:45 PM (4011 views)
Re: another company who does not pay - Jason Knowles/AL
10/24/2011 3:41:09 PM (4201 views)

What Are Your Thoughts on This - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/22/2011 8:34:17 AM (3384 views)
Re: What Are Your Thoughts on This - Robert Franco/OH
10/22/2011 7:32:43 PM (4108 views)
Re: What Are Your Thoughts on This - Anita Backlund/MN
10/23/2011 11:58:00 AM (3955 views)
Re: What Are Your Thoughts on This - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/25/2011 7:50:51 AM (6933 views)
Re: What Are Your Thoughts on This - john rutledge
10/31/2011 10:10:08 AM (3864 views)

Mass Land Records crappy new system - we need feedback - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/21/2011 9:05:29 AM (4519 views)
Re: Mass Land Records crappy new system - we need feedback - christine hughes/MA
10/24/2011 8:25:56 AM (4301 views)
Re: Mass Land Records crappy new system - we need feedback - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/24/2011 9:55:36 AM (4398 views)
Recommendations - William Pattison 
10/24/2011 1:07:40 PM (4012 views)




Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/20/2011 5:52:49 PM (3271 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Nils Nelson/ME
10/20/2011 8:59:50 PM (4325 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/21/2011 4:39:47 AM (4274 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/21/2011 7:04:20 AM (4101 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/21/2011 9:00:44 AM (4062 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/21/2011 9:07:50 AM (4327 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/21/2011 9:21:40 AM (4102 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/21/2011 3:23:28 PM (4097 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Sheila Sten/PA
10/23/2011 9:30:45 PM (4122 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Sheila Sten/PA
10/23/2011 9:30:47 PM (4052 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/23/2011 10:29:23 PM (4093 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/24/2011 9:34:37 AM (4001 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Jodi Thornton/MS
10/24/2011 6:05:40 PM (3911 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/25/2011 6:53:10 AM (4148 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/25/2011 9:17:12 AM (4017 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Jodi Thornton/MS
10/31/2011 7:59:46 AM (3986 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
11/2/2011 6:58:43 AM (3960 views)

Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/20/2011 12:28:47 PM (5121 views)
Re: Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2011 1:25:25 PM (4023 views)
Re: Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/20/2011 2:38:46 PM (3970 views)
Re: Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2011 9:43:50 PM (4002 views)
Re: Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Anita Backlund/MN
10/21/2011 1:14:15 PM (3881 views)
Re: Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Steve Vinciguerra/NY
10/24/2011 8:56:55 AM (3917 views)

Aracor is Not Paying - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/20/2011 10:46:35 AM (4369 views)
Re: Aracor is Not Paying - Joyce Obrien/PA
10/24/2011 1:55:17 PM (4259 views)
Re: Aracor is Not Paying - Joyce Obrien/PA
11/4/2011 6:24:09 PM (3988 views)
Re: Aracor is Not Paying - Bruce Lutz/PA
11/3/2011 4:00:40 PM (4217 views)

The Sweep-It-Under-the-Rug Housing Plan - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/19/2011 3:19:02 PM (4050 views)

US Century Bank, Florida won TARP loan, now teeters - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/19/2011 12:43:08 PM (4268 views)

Comment on "Bevilacqua v. Rodriguez-- Mass. Buyers out of Foreclosure Get the [Mostly] Bad News" - Source of Title/OH
10/19/2011 11:37:11 AM (3359 views)
Bevilacqua - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/19/2011 11:37:11 AM (3986 views)
Re: Bevilacqua - Slade Smith/OH
10/19/2011 2:51:57 PM (3883 views)
Re: Bevilacqua - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 2:36:51 PM (3845 views)
Re: Bevilacqua - Robert Franco
10/24/2011 2:57:47 PM (3916 views)
Other interests - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 8:29:26 PM (3888 views)
Bevilacqua - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/19/2011 11:44:48 AM (6863 views)

Real T Solutions - trish kerns/PA
10/19/2011 10:03:01 AM (3430 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Susan McKee Shifflett/WV
10/19/2011 11:44:11 AM (4067 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - trish kerns/PA
10/19/2011 2:11:07 PM (4002 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/19/2011 12:48:56 PM (4073 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/19/2011 12:49:01 PM (3984 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Jason Knowles/AL
10/19/2011 2:55:08 PM (3863 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - trish kerns/PA
10/19/2011 9:03:16 PM (3982 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Stephenie Page/RI
10/21/2011 9:52:39 AM (3928 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Sheila Sten/PA
10/23/2011 9:33:12 PM (3861 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Jacqueline Buck/NJ
10/24/2011 8:49:13 AM (3880 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Jacqueline Buck/NJ
10/24/2011 8:52:42 AM (3851 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 1:16:06 PM (3854 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - lloyd g/NE
3/20/2012 5:48:47 PM (3444 views)

Fannie Mae to phase out use of its retained attorney network - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
10/18/2011 10:58:36 PM (4608 views)
Re: Fannie Mae to phase out use of its retained attorney network - Slade Smith/OH
10/19/2011 4:37:57 AM (3771 views)
Re: Fannie Mae to phase out use of its retained attorney network - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
10/19/2011 5:34:13 PM (3680 views)

Mass Court rules on Bevilacqua - & it's ugly for good faith purchasers - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/18/2011 7:46:52 PM (4588 views)
Big news day, thanks for bringing this to my attention - Slade Smith/OH
10/19/2011 4:40:19 AM (3649 views)
Re: Mass Court rules on Bevilacqua - & it's ugly for good faith purchasers - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 8:32:08 PM (3717 views)

Stewart Title bulletin re compliance with Massachusetts REBA v NREIS decision - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/18/2011 1:30:51 PM (5529 views)
Interesting chain of lawyer efforts across nation - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 2:52:27 PM (3712 views)
Re: Interesting chain of lawyer efforts across nation - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
10/24/2011 3:02:21 PM (3614 views)


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