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Comment on "Breaking the Tie-- or Not" - Source of Title/OH
10/24/2011 8:01:51 PM (2956 views)
What about the document numbers? - Daniel Silverburg/CA
10/24/2011 8:01:52 PM (4096 views)
CA underwriters - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 8:42:38 PM (4049 views)
Re: CA underwriters - Robert Franco/OH
10/24/2011 10:05:29 PM (4034 views)
Re: CA underwriters - Slade Smith/OH
10/25/2011 5:44:23 AM (7823 views)
Re: CA underwriters - William Pattison /CA
10/26/2011 2:17:42 AM (3988 views)
Re: CA underwriters - Slade Smith/OH
10/26/2011 3:21:37 AM (3990 views)
lien priority is your answer - William Pattison /CA
10/26/2011 3:01:26 PM (4148 views)
But L.A. is Different... - Daniel Silverburg/CA
10/31/2011 8:23:32 AM (3903 views)
Re: But L.A. is Different... - Slade Smith/OH
10/31/2011 1:25:11 PM (6548 views)

It's case # B226061, Court of Appeals of California, Second District, Division Three. The decision can be read here.

The court was obviously cognizant of your reasoning why indexing could not possibly be a determinant of priority, saying, "it would disrupt the statutory scheme to make priority turn on the random act of indexing, as defendant advocates, especially where banks and title insurers have no influence over when the recorder indexes trust deeds."

There's nothing in the decision regarding L.A. county's system for detecting conflicts or producing a fallout report like you described, and so there's nothing in the decision regarding how all these mortgages went undetected.  Perhaps the pleadings in the case shed some light on that, and if you should happen to get your hands on them, I'd be interested to learn what you find out.

One thing that I suspect is that the plaintiff argued that the index timestamp mattered because that was the only criteria that was in their favor.  The decision doesn't say anything about document numbering being a factor in determining priority, but I suspect that's simply because that wasn't the plaintiffs argument.  The decision implies that there can be other factors beyond the recording timestamp which determine priority. (The ruling says that "Other things being equal, different liens upon the same property have priority according to the time of their creation".  I take that to mean, then, that if relevant other things are not equal in a case where the time of creation is equal, then the liens would not have the same priority. )

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Re: But L.A. is Different... - William Pattison /CA
11/7/2011 8:16:56 AM (3901 views)

Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Kimberly Goode/GA
10/24/2011 12:55:23 PM (3268 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Barbara Bennett/IN
10/24/2011 3:46:44 PM (4264 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Jodi Thornton/MS
10/24/2011 6:07:39 PM (4224 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Dan Zook/NY
10/26/2011 9:19:37 AM (5116 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Kristine Bjorge/OR
3/27/2012 5:14:08 PM (3755 views)

another company who does not pay - Anthony BROWNN/VA
10/24/2011 11:35:44 AM (3591 views)
Re: another company who does not pay - Anthony BROWNN/VA
10/24/2011 11:47:17 AM (4367 views)
Re: another company who does not pay - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 2:20:36 PM (4236 views)
Re: another company who does not pay - Anita Backlund/MN
10/26/2011 10:14:45 PM (4010 views)
Re: another company who does not pay - Jason Knowles/AL
10/24/2011 3:41:09 PM (4200 views)

What Are Your Thoughts on This - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/22/2011 8:34:17 AM (3384 views)
Re: What Are Your Thoughts on This - Robert Franco/OH
10/22/2011 7:32:43 PM (4105 views)
Re: What Are Your Thoughts on This - Anita Backlund/MN
10/23/2011 11:58:00 AM (3954 views)
Re: What Are Your Thoughts on This - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/25/2011 7:50:51 AM (6931 views)
Re: What Are Your Thoughts on This - john rutledge
10/31/2011 10:10:08 AM (3862 views)

Mass Land Records crappy new system - we need feedback - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/21/2011 9:05:29 AM (4519 views)
Re: Mass Land Records crappy new system - we need feedback - christine hughes/MA
10/24/2011 8:25:56 AM (4300 views)
Re: Mass Land Records crappy new system - we need feedback - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/24/2011 9:55:36 AM (4397 views)
Recommendations - William Pattison 
10/24/2011 1:07:40 PM (4011 views)




Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/20/2011 5:52:49 PM (3271 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Nils Nelson/ME
10/20/2011 8:59:50 PM (4324 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/21/2011 4:39:47 AM (4274 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/21/2011 7:04:20 AM (4100 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/21/2011 9:00:44 AM (4060 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/21/2011 9:07:50 AM (4325 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/21/2011 9:21:40 AM (4101 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/21/2011 3:23:28 PM (4097 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Sheila Sten/PA
10/23/2011 9:30:45 PM (4121 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Sheila Sten/PA
10/23/2011 9:30:47 PM (4048 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/23/2011 10:29:23 PM (4093 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/24/2011 9:34:37 AM (4000 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Jodi Thornton/MS
10/24/2011 6:05:40 PM (3911 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/25/2011 6:53:10 AM (4148 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/25/2011 9:17:12 AM (4017 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Jodi Thornton/MS
10/31/2011 7:59:46 AM (3985 views)
Re: Error or Lie? - Rebecca Cowart/MS
11/2/2011 6:58:43 AM (3960 views)

Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/20/2011 12:28:47 PM (5121 views)
Re: Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2011 1:25:25 PM (4022 views)
Re: Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/20/2011 2:38:46 PM (3969 views)
Re: Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2011 9:43:50 PM (4001 views)
Re: Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Anita Backlund/MN
10/21/2011 1:14:15 PM (3880 views)
Re: Rush to Drill for Natural Gas Creates Conflicts with Mortgages - Steve Vinciguerra/NY
10/24/2011 8:56:55 AM (3916 views)

Aracor is Not Paying - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/20/2011 10:46:35 AM (4369 views)
Re: Aracor is Not Paying - Joyce Obrien/PA
10/24/2011 1:55:17 PM (4259 views)
Re: Aracor is Not Paying - Joyce Obrien/PA
11/4/2011 6:24:09 PM (3986 views)
Re: Aracor is Not Paying - Bruce Lutz/PA
11/3/2011 4:00:40 PM (4216 views)

The Sweep-It-Under-the-Rug Housing Plan - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/19/2011 3:19:02 PM (4050 views)

US Century Bank, Florida won TARP loan, now teeters - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/19/2011 12:43:08 PM (4268 views)

Comment on "Bevilacqua v. Rodriguez-- Mass. Buyers out of Foreclosure Get the [Mostly] Bad News" - Source of Title/OH
10/19/2011 11:37:11 AM (3359 views)
Bevilacqua - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/19/2011 11:37:11 AM (3986 views)
Re: Bevilacqua - Slade Smith/OH
10/19/2011 2:51:57 PM (3882 views)
Re: Bevilacqua - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 2:36:51 PM (3843 views)
Re: Bevilacqua - Robert Franco
10/24/2011 2:57:47 PM (3915 views)
Other interests - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 8:29:26 PM (3888 views)
Bevilacqua - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/19/2011 11:44:48 AM (6862 views)

Real T Solutions - trish kerns/PA
10/19/2011 10:03:01 AM (3430 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Susan McKee Shifflett/WV
10/19/2011 11:44:11 AM (4067 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - trish kerns/PA
10/19/2011 2:11:07 PM (4002 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/19/2011 12:48:56 PM (4072 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/19/2011 12:49:01 PM (3984 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Jason Knowles/AL
10/19/2011 2:55:08 PM (3862 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - trish kerns/PA
10/19/2011 9:03:16 PM (3982 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Stephenie Page/RI
10/21/2011 9:52:39 AM (3927 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Sheila Sten/PA
10/23/2011 9:33:12 PM (3861 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Jacqueline Buck/NJ
10/24/2011 8:49:13 AM (3879 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - Jacqueline Buck/NJ
10/24/2011 8:52:42 AM (3851 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 1:16:06 PM (3852 views)
Re: Real T Solutions - lloyd g/NE
3/20/2012 5:48:47 PM (3444 views)

Fannie Mae to phase out use of its retained attorney network - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
10/18/2011 10:58:36 PM (4608 views)
Re: Fannie Mae to phase out use of its retained attorney network - Slade Smith/OH
10/19/2011 4:37:57 AM (3770 views)
Re: Fannie Mae to phase out use of its retained attorney network - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
10/19/2011 5:34:13 PM (3680 views)

Mass Court rules on Bevilacqua - & it's ugly for good faith purchasers - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/18/2011 7:46:52 PM (4588 views)
Big news day, thanks for bringing this to my attention - Slade Smith/OH
10/19/2011 4:40:19 AM (3649 views)
Re: Mass Court rules on Bevilacqua - & it's ugly for good faith purchasers - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 8:32:08 PM (3717 views)

Stewart Title bulletin re compliance with Massachusetts REBA v NREIS decision - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/18/2011 1:30:51 PM (5529 views)
Interesting chain of lawyer efforts across nation - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 2:52:27 PM (3712 views)
Re: Interesting chain of lawyer efforts across nation - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
10/24/2011 3:02:21 PM (3613 views)


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