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A Sign of the Times - Kevin Ahern/CT
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FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC VIOLATING RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC VIOLATING RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC VIOLATING RESPA - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
9/15/2009 11:35:26 AM (4295 views)
And that is the problem... - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 11:52:07 AM (4015 views)

Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - Edward Huguenin/SC
9/13/2009 11:12:30 PM (5097 views)
Re: Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - Robert Franco/OH
9/14/2009 9:15:33 AM (4502 views)
Re: Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - edward hartung/OH
9/14/2009 7:17:17 PM (4281 views)
Re: Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 9:25:34 AM (4122 views)

E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - Scott Olsen/NH
9/11/2009 10:47:44 AM (3719 views)
Re: E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2009 11:12:53 AM (4545 views)
Re: E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - Nils Nelson/ME
9/11/2009 12:45:19 PM (4402 views)
Re: E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - george Hubka/MI
9/14/2009 8:07:06 AM (4269 views)

County Clerk Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
9/11/2009 9:51:20 AM (3651 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2009 10:00:56 AM (4451 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
9/11/2009 12:07:24 PM (4506 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Nils Nelson/ME
9/11/2009 12:52:53 PM (4357 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/11/2009 1:16:29 PM (4302 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
9/11/2009 1:55:10 PM (4272 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - george Hubka/MI
9/14/2009 8:00:51 AM (4275 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Dan Zook/NY
9/14/2009 10:14:25 AM (4280 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - William Pattison /CA
9/14/2009 11:41:23 AM (4219 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Brad Bradbury/PA
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Re: County Clerk Fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: County Clerk Fees - Dan Zook/NY
9/15/2009 8:54:35 AM (4000 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/15/2009 9:51:04 AM (4055 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Dan Zook/NY
9/15/2009 10:18:14 AM (3926 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Nils Nelson/ME
9/14/2009 11:56:07 AM (4095 views)




Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Louise Jackson/SC
9/10/2009 9:12:43 AM (4687 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Brenda Palmer/TN
9/14/2009 3:21:28 AM (4658 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Jennifer/AR
9/14/2009 10:24:12 AM (4368 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Virginia Capps/TN
9/14/2009 11:16:16 AM (4396 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Angela Johnson/NC
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Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Rick Wilkinson/TN
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MSNi - Constance Foye/VA
9/9/2009 9:04:37 PM (4457 views)
Re: MSNi - Kelli Quade/MO
9/10/2009 3:28:14 PM (4331 views)
Re: MSNi - george Hubka/MI
9/11/2009 7:03:50 AM (4306 views)
Re: MSNi - Constance Foye/VA
9/14/2009 12:30:14 PM (4209 views)

Pro-Search, Inc. - Susan McKee/WV
9/9/2009 10:51:23 AM (4218 views)
Re: Pro-Search, Inc. - Elizabeth Helman/PA
9/12/2009 9:22:14 PM (5008 views)

ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Cheryl Hartzman/PA
9/4/2009 2:41:01 PM (5340 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/8/2009 1:45:36 PM (4527 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2009 5:09:20 PM (4426 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/9/2009 8:06:24 AM (4394 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/9/2009 8:41:47 AM (4399 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/9/2009 8:58:17 AM (4322 views)

J&L in TX - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
9/3/2009 9:34:26 PM (3037 views)

Accepting Credit Cards - Dan Zook/NY
9/3/2009 1:07:29 PM (3591 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Dan Zook/NY
9/8/2009 11:22:53 AM (4384 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Michelle White/IL
9/8/2009 12:35:21 PM (4495 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Robert Franco/OH
9/8/2009 1:52:47 PM (4448 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Jessica Obitz/MD
9/15/2009 8:32:35 AM (3995 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Dan Zook/NY
9/15/2009 8:58:54 AM (4007 views)

Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/3/2009 1:03:46 AM (3802 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/10/2009 3:53:48 PM (4355 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
9/15/2009 2:24:40 PM (4323 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/17/2009 1:54:39 PM (5680 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/17/2009 4:24:02 PM (4246 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
9/17/2009 7:58:09 PM (4340 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/18/2009 1:18:49 AM (4412 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2009 9:27:37 AM (4178 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 4:59:39 PM (4239 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2009 6:51:17 PM (4160 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 8:57:45 PM (4257 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/19/2009 11:59:07 PM (4187 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/21/2009 12:11:37 PM (4242 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 1:11:33 PM (4285 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 1:08:37 PM (4258 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 12:35:50 PM (4176 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/18/2009 1:24:49 AM (4213 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 1:50:13 PM (4292 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/21/2009 2:08:51 PM (4454 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/22/2009 12:30:13 PM (4500 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/22/2009 1:18:21 PM (4311 views)

Yes... probably best to let it drop.  If you want to get involved in these types of transactions, go for it.  I'm not telling you what to do.  I'm just saying that, from a title agents perspective, it is a land flip that most knowledgeable title agents will not want to get involved with.

You clearly do not understand there is substantively no difference between B using the proceeds from C to buy property from A... AND... B borrowing money from YOU to buy the property from A with the requirement that the proceeds from the sale to C must be used to pay YOU.  Clearly, with that kind of requirement the A/B transaction is dependent upon the B/C transaction.  The A/B transaction cannot stand alone because you wouldn't loan the money without the B/C transaction already lined up and ready to go.

You need to re-read your post:

The agreement is that this money is used to fund the A-B and then paid back plus fee in the B-C transaction.  If the B-C transaction falls apart for some reason, the title company nullifies the A-B.

"If the B/C transaction falls apart - the title company nullifies the A/B transaction" - This does not describe a "stand alone transaction."  The A/B transaction necessarily depends on the B/C transaction!  A title agent would have to be nuts to agree to close that transaction.  It is clearly a land flip with all of the badges of fraud that land agents in the middle of federal investigations.  It is precisely the type of transaction that we are trained to spot and avoid. 

You clearly have a dollar signs blinding your vision - you want to loan someone money with a large fee FOR ONE DAY!  Like most get-rich-quick schemes, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. 

Clanci was clearly correct, you are taking her statement out of context.  Though, perhaps what she should have said in response to your comment ("no one here has experience...and some people have irrational fears") was "It is not fear that prevents us from not doing these transactions, nor is it a lack of experience.  It is past experiences and the laws that govern our business that we follow.”

I don't know how I could make this any more clear... you just don't want to understand.  Clearly you recognize that "each closing has to stand on it's own."  Then you want to contractually obligate the title agent to "nullify" the first transaction if the second deal falls through.  By your own words, the first transaction is dependent on the second transaction, i.e., it does not stand alone.  Your contract would make the title agent a party to a land flip.  Any agent worth his salt would send you packing.

You said:

I didn't really ask for your opinion, I asked for facts about the title business.  But you guys are having difficulty getting the basic facts of my question straight.

You got what you asked for... "My question is just about the details of this contract between the Title Co and the Trans Lender. How is this done exactly?"  You were told that the way you want to structure this deal meets the definition of a land flip and our professional opinion is that we would not get involved.  It is you that does not understand the "basic facts" of your question.  The facts you presented contemplate that the A/B transaction cannot stand alone, yet you insist that it is a stand alone transaction.  You can't have it both ways!    If the A/B transaction is "nullified" if the B/C transaction falls through, it does not stand alone no matter how many times you call it "a stand alone transaction!" 

I'm sorry you didn't like the answer you got.  You are free to go elsewhere and seek other opinions.  Sooner or later you will find someone who doesn't understand land flips and you will get a more favorable response.  Just don't say you weren't warned.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/12/2009 12:28:55 PM (4368 views)

selling searches - edward hartung/OH
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Re: selling searches - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: selling searches - edward hartung/OH
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Re: selling searches - edward hartung/OH
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Re: selling searches - Robert Franco/OH
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new client, trust title - WAYNE QUICK/NC
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Cleary Title - Robin Ramberg/MI
8/30/2009 8:32:56 PM (4797 views)
Re: Cleary Title - Edward Huguenin/SC
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