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CT process servers make millions - Dave Pell/GA
6/12/2009 5:24:46 PM (5267 views)
Re: CT process servers make millions - Robert Franco/OH
6/13/2009 9:21:20 AM (4030 views)
Re: CT process servers make millions - george Hubka/MI
6/14/2009 10:11:31 PM (3881 views)

NPR Services - DOES NOT PAY - P Parrish/AL
6/11/2009 6:56:54 PM (3764 views)
Re: NPR Services - DOES NOT PAY - Nils Nelson/ME
6/11/2009 8:26:33 PM (3987 views)
Re: NPR Services - DOES NOT PAY - george Hubka/MI
6/12/2009 5:46:17 AM (4003 views)
Re: NPR Services - DOES NOT PAY - Jason Knowles/AL
6/12/2009 8:49:41 AM (4036 views)
Re: NPR Services - DOES NOT PAY - Martha  Lemoine/LA
9/23/2009 11:13:51 AM (3398 views)

What kind of Abstractor would.... - Tempie Elder/TX
6/11/2009 6:02:56 PM (4173 views)
Re: What kind of Abstractor would.... - Jessica Talley/NJ
6/11/2009 8:57:24 PM (4139 views)
Re: What kind of Abstractor would.... - Patrick Scott/IL
6/12/2009 12:20:47 AM (5868 views)
Re: What kind of Abstractor would.... - Kelly Schuler/TX
6/15/2009 9:44:28 AM (3766 views)
Re: What kind of Abstractor would.... - William Pattison /CA
6/15/2009 12:01:38 PM (3741 views)

Reverse ValuNet - Abstractor Style - Scott Aduddell/MO
6/11/2009 10:03:01 AM (3451 views)
Re: Reverse ValuNet - Abstractor Style - george Hubka/MI
6/11/2009 1:15:27 PM (3704 views)
Re: Reverse ValuNet - Abstractor Style - John Dokes/PA
6/12/2009 9:38:27 AM (3845 views)

Jade Data Research, Inc. - Edward Huguenin/SC
6/10/2009 10:58:48 PM (2931 views)




Slow Pay?? - Ellen Maher/MI
6/10/2009 2:28:38 PM (3556 views)
Re: Slow Pay?? - Patrick Scott/IL
6/10/2009 5:29:17 PM (4131 views)
Re: Slow Pay?? - Jean Allen/NC
6/10/2009 9:02:28 PM (3908 views)

allowable seller contributions from "any loan" - cynthia heed/TX
6/9/2009 10:52:34 PM (3090 views)
Re: allowable seller contributions from "any loan" - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2009 12:00:14 AM (3689 views)
Re: allowable seller contributions from "any loan" - cynthia heed/TX
6/10/2009 2:21:08 PM (3629 views)
Re: allowable seller contributions from "any loan" - Diane Cipa/PA
6/12/2009 5:09:59 PM (3675 views)

Order Tracking and Turn Time Software - Justin Rhoades/NE
6/9/2009 2:38:22 PM (3620 views)
Re: Order Tracking and Turn Time Software - William Pattison /CA
7/20/2009 4:49:52 PM (3664 views)

The Other Shoe Has Yet To Drop - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
6/8/2009 9:19:28 PM (4555 views)
Re: The Other Shoe Has Yet To Drop - William Pattison /CA
7/20/2009 4:57:17 PM (3454 views)

Multiple Choice... - Robert Franco/OH
6/8/2009 10:51:53 AM (4973 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Dorothy Payne/NY
6/8/2009 11:34:47 AM (3913 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Dave Pell/GA
6/8/2009 12:07:25 PM (3740 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Karen Hurley/KY
6/8/2009 2:48:08 PM (3731 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Dave Pell/GA
6/8/2009 3:35:38 PM (3649 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Robert Franco/OH
6/8/2009 3:40:19 PM (3681 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Patrick Scott/IL
6/8/2009 5:01:56 PM (3770 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - James "Lin" Toney, Jr,/MS
6/8/2009 5:55:04 PM (3728 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Jessica Talley/NJ
6/8/2009 7:22:12 PM (3644 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - J. H./OH
6/8/2009 9:34:39 PM (3585 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Karen Hurley/KY
6/9/2009 12:38:54 AM (3522 views)
And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/9/2009 10:30:39 AM (3653 views)

"C, The bank is entitled to $30,000, the financing company is entitled to $20,000, and the driver is entitled to the remaining $40,000."  J.H. got the answer right, with the correct explanation.

Like most of you, I also selected "A."  In the real world, the plaintiff in the foreclosure would serve everyone with an interest in the property, which would seem to include cyclist.  Cyclist is going to file an answer claiming the first and best lien, and cyclist would get paid first.  I think that is assuming more facts than they gave us, however.

Like, J.H. said, the problem specifically mentions that bank joined the financing company in the suit, but it did not mention cyclist at all in this regard.  Thus, as a non-party to the foreclosure, cyclists lien would be undisturbed and the buyer at the sheriff's sale will take subject to it. 

Here is the rule that they want us to learn, and what they are attempting to test with this question:

Foreclosure destroys all interests junior to the mortgage being foreclosed and does not affect any interest senior to the mortgage being foreclosed.

I just don't like this rule... at least the way it is phrased.  Rather, I think that it depends more on whether the party was joined in the suit than whether the lien is junior or senior.  However, perhaps the correct distinction is that if cyclist were made a party, he would answer and request that his lien be foreclosed on first, then the rule would make sense.

I still don't like the outcome... the cyclist with the first lien here was not served with notice of the suit and he could have been paid in full.  Worse, the driver walked away with $40,000.  But, cyclist would still be able to try to recover from driver or foreclose on the new owner if he doesn't pay up.

Thanks, everyone, for the great discussion.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: And, the correct answer is... - Dave Pell/GA
6/9/2009 11:59:48 AM (3562 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/9/2009 12:27:25 PM (3651 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - george Hubka/MI
6/9/2009 9:12:28 PM (3540 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Patrick Scott/IL
6/9/2009 11:12:06 PM (3524 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2009 11:04:32 AM (3502 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2009 10:59:52 AM (3534 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - george Hubka/MI
6/10/2009 11:07:37 AM (3435 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2009 11:32:25 AM (3438 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Karen Hurley/KY
6/10/2009 2:29:06 PM (3496 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - J. H./OH
6/10/2009 3:48:54 PM (3533 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Cyril Gonzales, III/LA
6/15/2009 12:43:18 PM (3372 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/15/2009 1:08:57 PM (3471 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Dave Pell/GA
6/15/2009 4:40:21 PM (3616 views)

Michigan Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/6/2009 4:00:49 PM (3525 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/6/2009 6:37:24 PM (3785 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/7/2009 5:27:42 PM (3668 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/7/2009 9:35:45 PM (3737 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - george Hubka/MI
6/8/2009 12:14:10 PM (3690 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/8/2009 1:01:48 PM (3678 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Joyce Harper/OH
6/8/2009 6:55:42 PM (3642 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - george Hubka/MI
6/9/2009 9:19:13 PM (3682 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ron McPherson/IA
6/11/2009 3:50:31 AM (3592 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/11/2009 9:13:16 AM (3639 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
6/11/2009 12:40:22 PM (3528 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - george Hubka/MI
6/11/2009 1:11:52 PM (3505 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/11/2009 1:21:50 PM (3511 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Dan Zook/NY
6/11/2009 1:58:55 PM (3409 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/11/2009 1:23:53 PM (3469 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - george Hubka/MI
6/11/2009 1:14:01 PM (3469 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
6/11/2009 8:52:14 PM (3543 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/12/2009 8:24:51 AM (3619 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/12/2009 8:41:26 AM (3515 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/12/2009 10:04:01 AM (3417 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Cyril Gonzales, III/LA
6/15/2009 12:50:45 PM (3256 views)

Verification Bureau - Donna Stovall/NY
6/5/2009 3:07:04 PM (3020 views)
Re: Verification Bureau - Laurie Puckett/TN
6/15/2009 4:34:17 PM (3092 views)
Re: Verification Bureau - george Hubka/MI
6/15/2009 4:55:12 PM (3120 views)

Prferred Document - No Pay Company - Mary Buchanan/IN
6/2/2009 10:28:09 AM (3208 views)
Re: Prferred Document - No Pay Company - Constance Foye/VA
12/15/2009 11:59:55 AM (3181 views)

Equity National/ ValuNet - Joanie Hahr/VT
6/1/2009 9:26:19 PM (3862 views)
Re: Equity National/ ValuNet - Patrick Scott/IL
6/1/2009 10:58:45 PM (3864 views)
Re: Equity National/ ValuNet - Constance Foye/VA
6/2/2009 4:40:10 PM (3770 views)
Re: Equity National/ ValuNet - Joanie Hahr/VT
6/3/2009 12:04:57 PM (3610 views)
Re: Equity National/ ValuNet - John Dokes/PA
6/12/2009 9:43:48 AM (4059 views)
Re: Equity National/ ValuNet - Jessica Talley/NJ
6/12/2009 12:54:44 PM (3427 views)

$1900.00 to file a foreclosure in Florida - Dave Pell/GA
6/1/2009 11:58:55 AM (3991 views)


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