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A.S.K. Services, Inc. - Edward Huguenin/SC
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Re: A.S.K. Services, Inc. - Edward Huguenin/SC
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ESS Soultions, LLC - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - SM/WI
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Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - SM/WI
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Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Barbara Kelley/PA
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Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Alix Ott/MI
5/18/2009 10:28:58 AM (3700 views)

Maverick National Services, LLC - Ron McPherson/IA
5/13/2009 10:27:35 AM (5853 views)

More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/13/2009 9:59:18 AM (5144 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/13/2009 12:00:36 PM (3574 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/13/2009 3:44:12 PM (3639 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/13/2009 6:00:07 PM (3650 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jean Allen/NC
5/13/2009 8:12:10 PM (3542 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:39:42 AM (3385 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jean Allen/NC
5/14/2009 3:51:57 PM (3479 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/14/2009 4:35:51 PM (3515 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Ron McPherson/IA
5/13/2009 9:00:29 PM (3475 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Helene /GA
5/13/2009 10:50:29 PM (3491 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:41:30 AM (3482 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Dorothy Payne/NY
5/14/2009 12:10:40 AM (3421 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:42:35 AM (3376 views)
Re: More fees to advance - William Case/TN
5/14/2009 10:13:52 AM (5309 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Diane Cipa/PA
5/18/2009 11:47:00 AM (3448 views)

Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Bill Jones/NJ
5/12/2009 10:38:46 AM (9768 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Shona Dunning/WY
5/12/2009 11:10:25 AM (4799 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/12/2009 3:00:13 PM (4191 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Kim/WI
5/13/2009 9:34:44 AM (4323 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Mandy Harmon/SC
5/18/2009 3:59:54 PM (3934 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Michele  Peele/NC
5/18/2009 8:17:18 PM (3856 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - george Hubka/MI
5/18/2009 8:27:06 PM (3904 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Mike Campbell/FL
5/20/2009 3:22:01 PM (4941 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - george Hubka/MI
5/20/2009 8:51:04 PM (4027 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Mike Campbell/FL
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Status - Becky Vigneault/VT
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Carteret Title - Kristi Lee/NE
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Re: Carteret Title - Shona Dunning/WY
5/11/2009 2:44:04 PM (3780 views)
Re: Carteret Title - martha campbell/VA
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Re: Carteret Title - Jean Lurtsema/AK
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Re: Carteret Title - Ron McPherson/IA
5/13/2009 8:36:48 PM (3636 views)

Applied Technology Resources - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
5/8/2009 6:06:33 PM (3964 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Kimberly Gray/AR
5/11/2009 6:41:39 AM (3654 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Mandy Harmon/SC
5/11/2009 12:44:55 PM (3637 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Nils Nelson/ME
5/11/2009 8:25:00 PM (3408 views)

Woman admits taking $3.4M from SP company - George Booth/OH
5/6/2009 10:29:06 PM (4494 views)

Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
5/6/2009 7:12:06 PM (3869 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/6/2009 8:17:09 PM (3680 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Dan Zook/NY
5/7/2009 9:13:42 AM (3566 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:16:05 PM (3541 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - William Pattison /CA
5/28/2009 1:01:52 PM (3262 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
5/29/2009 9:57:09 PM (3257 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Constance Foye/VA
5/11/2009 12:35:17 PM (3671 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
5/12/2009 9:12:19 AM (3457 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/30/2009 8:10:43 AM (3322 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - george Hubka/MI
6/10/2009 10:57:40 PM (3243 views)

REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Frank NAVARRO/IL
5/6/2009 7:11:32 PM (13447 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:10:43 PM (4453 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Frank NAVARRO/IL
5/8/2009 6:44:57 PM (4970 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - TS/WI
5/10/2009 12:49:37 AM (4701 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
5/11/2009 7:58:50 AM (4271 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Jean Lurtsema/AK
5/11/2009 10:48:08 PM (4218 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
5/14/2009 8:10:20 AM (4053 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Ellen Maher/MI
6/12/2009 12:29:16 PM (3870 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
6/14/2009 10:25:40 PM (4080 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Wade Briner/MN
6/11/2009 3:44:53 PM (4049 views)

Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - Cheryl Hartzman/PA
5/4/2009 3:30:31 PM (4479 views)
Re: Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - Barbara King/VA
5/11/2009 9:46:58 AM (3733 views)
Re: Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - george Hubka/MI
5/14/2009 8:12:08 AM (3488 views)

New Clients - Mike /KS
5/3/2009 8:19:42 AM (4490 views)
Re: New Clients - monica froese/ME
5/3/2009 9:39:52 PM (3790 views)
Re: New Clients - george Hubka/MI
5/4/2009 7:54:05 AM (3715 views)
Re: New Clients - Robert Franco/OH
5/4/2009 10:50:19 AM (3649 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/4/2009 11:52:50 AM (3710 views)
Re: New Clients - Dan Zook/NY
5/4/2009 1:31:05 PM (3595 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/7/2009 5:37:42 PM (3476 views)
Re: New Clients - Constance Foye/VA
5/12/2009 6:39:45 PM (3375 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/5/2009 8:47:15 AM (3627 views)
Re: New Clients - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/8/2009 12:25:22 AM (3512 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/8/2009 10:40:51 AM (3401 views)
Re: New Clients - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 8:44:42 AM (3381 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/11/2009 12:24:12 PM (3367 views)
Re: New Clients - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 3:41:38 PM (3371 views)
I did not post about .. - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/11/2009 4:03:12 PM (3304 views)
Re: New Clients - Joseph Weaver/VA
5/11/2009 5:27:48 PM (3388 views)
Re: New Clients - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/8/2009 12:25:26 AM (3438 views)
Re: New Clients - Jennifer Lawrence/AR
5/11/2009 8:14:51 AM (3339 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/13/2009 3:26:27 PM (3452 views)
Re: New Clients - Margaret Haddock/TN
5/11/2009 8:44:18 AM (3408 views)
Re: New Clients - Jason Knowles/AL
5/15/2009 3:36:04 PM (3377 views)
Re: New Clients - William Pattison /CA
5/28/2009 1:09:31 PM (3178 views)

Why don't we charge up front? - Patrick Ridens/CO
5/2/2009 11:34:19 PM (4691 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Chad/OR
5/3/2009 8:23:01 AM (3626 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Alix Ott/MI
5/4/2009 8:03:35 AM (3725 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Patricia Kearney/OH
8/4/2009 9:37:45 AM (3109 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - William Case/TN
5/4/2009 3:20:41 PM (5563 views)

Greetings Patrick:

I do require payment at the time services are rendered with some clients.

If I get an order from someone with whom I have never dealt, and with whom I will probably never deal again, I tell them up front that upon my completion of their work they will be invoiced via PayPal and upon payment of the invoice I will forward my opinion of title.

Invariably three things happen next:

   1. They say that they have never done things that way before. I politely tell them that I understand, but that is how I work with new, out of town, clients.
   2. They then say that they do not have a PayPal account. I remind them that they do not need a PayPal account to pay via PayPal, and direct them to the PayPal site to learn more. They say they will look into it. I figure that half the time they are shopping around for someone else, but then...
   3. They call back and say they will pay via PayPal.

I have done this multiple times. Always with success.

When doing this it is important ...

   1. that you are polite and professional
   2. that you do not project an arrogant "take it or leave it" attitude
   3. that you are ready for their objections with the answers set out above

Since you are usually talking to someone lower on the food chain, and not the ultimate decision maker, remember to...

   1. Be kind, they are doing the best they can with the novel situation you have just presented.
   2. Adopt a helpful attitude and briefly educate him/her about PayPal so they can report back to their superiors knowledgeably.
   3. Point out that you are not requesting money up front. Remind them that they will only be billed upon completion of the work. Assure them that you are raring to go on their project as soon as they give you the word and "times a wastin."
   4. Do what you promise to do and send them the work immediately when they pay.

I do not do this with clients with whom I've developed a good working relationship, but I do monitor their payments carefully.

You take a certain amount of risk here by working without payment up front. However, if they do not pay you as agreed you simply do not send the work. It's better than submitting work that the unknown client uses then never pays you for.

Remember too that in the scenario I am describing, the client does not know you either. You at least take steps to alleviate their fears of the great unknown (namely, YOU) by not requiring payment until you at least purport to have done the work. Additionally, they have the hope of some recourse through PayPal for reimbursement of their payment should you utterly fail to deliver the product you invoiced them for.

There are two other things going for you right now that make it easier to take the PayPal approach I outline above:

   1. In the current fearful economic climate it is understandable for parties who do not know each other to deal with each other more cautiously, even if that means adopting new non-standard methods as long as those methods appear reasonable and secure.
   2. Over the years, in spite of its rather lame name, PayPal has come to symbolize security in internet payments between parties who do not know each other. It is the way to pay for goods and services on the internet. eBay saw this early on. That's why they acquired PayPal in a 1.3 billion dollar stock deal in 2002. A bit of PayPal’s image rubs off on you by using them. Guilt by association you know.

I hope this gives you some food for thought. As I said, I do not use PayPal across the board, but I use it frequently when the situation seems to call for it. It is one more tool for your tool box.

Sincerely,

David Case

wdavidcase.com

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Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Alix Ott/MI
5/11/2009 10:01:43 AM (3353 views)

transactional funding - Chet Mazur/CA
5/2/2009 3:32:46 PM (3748 views)
Good Luck, Dude. - Patrick Scott/IL
5/2/2009 9:49:02 PM (3345 views)
Re: Good Luck, Dude. - Thomas/FL
5/7/2009 8:07:41 PM (3311 views)
Re: Good Luck, Dude. - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:37:57 PM (3193 views)


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