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ESS Soultions, LLC - Robert Breakell/CT
5/13/2009 4:41:05 PM (6138 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - KRISTI HERRING/ID
5/13/2009 5:32:29 PM (3864 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Robert Breakell/CT
5/13/2009 6:56:56 PM (3889 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:29:49 AM (3621 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Robert Breakell/CT
5/15/2009 4:02:51 PM (3587 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - SM/WI
5/14/2009 3:09:10 PM (3711 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/14/2009 5:16:20 PM (3645 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - SM/WI
5/14/2009 6:26:31 PM (3667 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Barbara Kelley/PA
5/18/2009 8:03:41 AM (3477 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Alix Ott/MI
5/18/2009 10:28:58 AM (3635 views)

Maverick National Services, LLC - Ron McPherson/IA
5/13/2009 10:27:35 AM (5822 views)

More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/13/2009 9:59:18 AM (5106 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/13/2009 12:00:36 PM (3516 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/13/2009 3:44:12 PM (3585 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/13/2009 6:00:07 PM (3595 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jean Allen/NC
5/13/2009 8:12:10 PM (3477 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:39:42 AM (3328 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jean Allen/NC
5/14/2009 3:51:57 PM (3429 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/14/2009 4:35:51 PM (3459 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Ron McPherson/IA
5/13/2009 9:00:29 PM (3423 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Helene /GA
5/13/2009 10:50:29 PM (3434 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:41:30 AM (3433 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Dorothy Payne/NY
5/14/2009 12:10:40 AM (3370 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:42:35 AM (3318 views)
Re: More fees to advance - William Case/TN
5/14/2009 10:13:52 AM (5247 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Diane Cipa/PA
5/18/2009 11:47:00 AM (3391 views)

Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Bill Jones/NJ
5/12/2009 10:38:46 AM (9738 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Shona Dunning/WY
5/12/2009 11:10:25 AM (4741 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/12/2009 3:00:13 PM (4140 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Kim/WI
5/13/2009 9:34:44 AM (4258 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Mandy Harmon/SC
5/18/2009 3:59:54 PM (3873 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Michele  Peele/NC
5/18/2009 8:17:18 PM (3796 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - george Hubka/MI
5/18/2009 8:27:06 PM (3854 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Mike Campbell/FL
5/20/2009 3:22:01 PM (4877 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - george Hubka/MI
5/20/2009 8:51:04 PM (3974 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Mike Campbell/FL
4/6/2012 11:45:29 AM (5518 views)

Status - Becky Vigneault/VT
5/11/2009 9:31:54 PM (3085 views)


Real Title Services


Carteret Title - Kristi Lee/NE
5/11/2009 11:38:32 AM (4122 views)
Re: Carteret Title - Shona Dunning/WY
5/11/2009 2:44:04 PM (3732 views)
Re: Carteret Title - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 8:57:54 PM (3592 views)
Re: Carteret Title - Jean Lurtsema/AK
5/11/2009 10:42:52 PM (3754 views)
Re: Carteret Title - Ron McPherson/IA
5/13/2009 8:36:48 PM (3582 views)

Applied Technology Resources - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
5/8/2009 6:06:33 PM (3933 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Kimberly Gray/AR
5/11/2009 6:41:39 AM (3605 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Mandy Harmon/SC
5/11/2009 12:44:55 PM (3589 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Nils Nelson/ME
5/11/2009 8:25:00 PM (3360 views)

Woman admits taking $3.4M from SP company - George Booth/OH
5/6/2009 10:29:06 PM (4473 views)

Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
5/6/2009 7:12:06 PM (3823 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/6/2009 8:17:09 PM (3621 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Dan Zook/NY
5/7/2009 9:13:42 AM (3515 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:16:05 PM (3495 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - William Pattison /CA
5/28/2009 1:01:52 PM (3210 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
5/29/2009 9:57:09 PM (3191 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Constance Foye/VA
5/11/2009 12:35:17 PM (3625 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
5/12/2009 9:12:19 AM (3406 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/30/2009 8:10:43 AM (3271 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - george Hubka/MI
6/10/2009 10:57:40 PM (3202 views)

REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Frank NAVARRO/IL
5/6/2009 7:11:32 PM (13391 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:10:43 PM (4407 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Frank NAVARRO/IL
5/8/2009 6:44:57 PM (4928 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - TS/WI
5/10/2009 12:49:37 AM (4658 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
5/11/2009 7:58:50 AM (4227 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Jean Lurtsema/AK
5/11/2009 10:48:08 PM (4179 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
5/14/2009 8:10:20 AM (4007 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Ellen Maher/MI
6/12/2009 12:29:16 PM (3822 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
6/14/2009 10:25:40 PM (4027 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Wade Briner/MN
6/11/2009 3:44:53 PM (4007 views)

Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - Cheryl Hartzman/PA
5/4/2009 3:30:31 PM (4433 views)
Re: Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - Barbara King/VA
5/11/2009 9:46:58 AM (3669 views)
Re: Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - george Hubka/MI
5/14/2009 8:12:08 AM (3449 views)

New Clients - Mike /KS
5/3/2009 8:19:42 AM (4463 views)
Re: New Clients - monica froese/ME
5/3/2009 9:39:52 PM (3749 views)
Re: New Clients - george Hubka/MI
5/4/2009 7:54:05 AM (3676 views)
Re: New Clients - Robert Franco/OH
5/4/2009 10:50:19 AM (3605 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/4/2009 11:52:50 AM (3671 views)
Re: New Clients - Dan Zook/NY
5/4/2009 1:31:05 PM (3553 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/7/2009 5:37:42 PM (3435 views)
Re: New Clients - Constance Foye/VA
5/12/2009 6:39:45 PM (3338 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/5/2009 8:47:15 AM (3581 views)
Re: New Clients - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/8/2009 12:25:22 AM (3471 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/8/2009 10:40:51 AM (3358 views)
Re: New Clients - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 8:44:42 AM (3334 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/11/2009 12:24:12 PM (3323 views)
Re: New Clients - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 3:41:38 PM (3326 views)
I did not post about .. - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/11/2009 4:03:12 PM (3268 views)
Re: New Clients - Joseph Weaver/VA
5/11/2009 5:27:48 PM (3347 views)
Re: New Clients - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/8/2009 12:25:26 AM (3393 views)
Re: New Clients - Jennifer Lawrence/AR
5/11/2009 8:14:51 AM (3298 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/13/2009 3:26:27 PM (3409 views)
Re: New Clients - Margaret Haddock/TN
5/11/2009 8:44:18 AM (3364 views)
Re: New Clients - Jason Knowles/AL
5/15/2009 3:36:04 PM (3338 views)
Re: New Clients - William Pattison /CA
5/28/2009 1:09:31 PM (3134 views)

Why don't we charge up front? - Patrick Ridens/CO
5/2/2009 11:34:19 PM (4649 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Chad/OR
5/3/2009 8:23:01 AM (3590 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Alix Ott/MI
5/4/2009 8:03:35 AM (3679 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Patricia Kearney/OH
8/4/2009 9:37:45 AM (3070 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - William Case/TN
5/4/2009 3:20:41 PM (5521 views)

Greetings Patrick:

I do require payment at the time services are rendered with some clients.

If I get an order from someone with whom I have never dealt, and with whom I will probably never deal again, I tell them up front that upon my completion of their work they will be invoiced via PayPal and upon payment of the invoice I will forward my opinion of title.

Invariably three things happen next:

   1. They say that they have never done things that way before. I politely tell them that I understand, but that is how I work with new, out of town, clients.
   2. They then say that they do not have a PayPal account. I remind them that they do not need a PayPal account to pay via PayPal, and direct them to the PayPal site to learn more. They say they will look into it. I figure that half the time they are shopping around for someone else, but then...
   3. They call back and say they will pay via PayPal.

I have done this multiple times. Always with success.

When doing this it is important ...

   1. that you are polite and professional
   2. that you do not project an arrogant "take it or leave it" attitude
   3. that you are ready for their objections with the answers set out above

Since you are usually talking to someone lower on the food chain, and not the ultimate decision maker, remember to...

   1. Be kind, they are doing the best they can with the novel situation you have just presented.
   2. Adopt a helpful attitude and briefly educate him/her about PayPal so they can report back to their superiors knowledgeably.
   3. Point out that you are not requesting money up front. Remind them that they will only be billed upon completion of the work. Assure them that you are raring to go on their project as soon as they give you the word and "times a wastin."
   4. Do what you promise to do and send them the work immediately when they pay.

I do not do this with clients with whom I've developed a good working relationship, but I do monitor their payments carefully.

You take a certain amount of risk here by working without payment up front. However, if they do not pay you as agreed you simply do not send the work. It's better than submitting work that the unknown client uses then never pays you for.

Remember too that in the scenario I am describing, the client does not know you either. You at least take steps to alleviate their fears of the great unknown (namely, YOU) by not requiring payment until you at least purport to have done the work. Additionally, they have the hope of some recourse through PayPal for reimbursement of their payment should you utterly fail to deliver the product you invoiced them for.

There are two other things going for you right now that make it easier to take the PayPal approach I outline above:

   1. In the current fearful economic climate it is understandable for parties who do not know each other to deal with each other more cautiously, even if that means adopting new non-standard methods as long as those methods appear reasonable and secure.
   2. Over the years, in spite of its rather lame name, PayPal has come to symbolize security in internet payments between parties who do not know each other. It is the way to pay for goods and services on the internet. eBay saw this early on. That's why they acquired PayPal in a 1.3 billion dollar stock deal in 2002. A bit of PayPal’s image rubs off on you by using them. Guilt by association you know.

I hope this gives you some food for thought. As I said, I do not use PayPal across the board, but I use it frequently when the situation seems to call for it. It is one more tool for your tool box.

Sincerely,

David Case

wdavidcase.com

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Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Alix Ott/MI
5/11/2009 10:01:43 AM (3312 views)

transactional funding - Chet Mazur/CA
5/2/2009 3:32:46 PM (3722 views)
Good Luck, Dude. - Patrick Scott/IL
5/2/2009 9:49:02 PM (3299 views)
Re: Good Luck, Dude. - Thomas/FL
5/7/2009 8:07:41 PM (3275 views)
Re: Good Luck, Dude. - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:37:57 PM (3152 views)

National TitleNet - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
5/1/2009 6:11:42 PM (3740 views)
Re: National TitleNet - Nils Nelson/ME
5/1/2009 6:50:31 PM (3529 views)
Re: National TitleNet - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
5/1/2009 6:59:34 PM (3451 views)


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