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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: avanzegroup.com? TYSM for the reply!! (Can't post in message, IDK why) - Paige Bentley/TX
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Serena Stout/VA
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
5/3/2021 3:01:24 PM (1624 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - george Hubka/MI
4/26/2022 8:56:06 PM (689 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
4/27/2022 12:59:07 PM (657 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Ted Williamson/TX
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Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/8/2021 3:22:26 PM (2084 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Brandon ONeal/TN
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Ron Beavers/FL
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Tempie Elder/GA
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Alix Ott/MI
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Angela Sharp/CA
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Serena Stout/VA
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Thank you from ABN Legal Solutions - William Duncan/SC
4/4/2021 1:42:00 PM (2012 views)

PRO Act Bill - Jennifer Lawrence/AR
3/31/2021 7:37:46 PM (1196 views)

Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
3/31/2021 2:17:49 PM (1793 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - William Duncan/SC
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Re: Visionet, non-payment - Patrick Parrish/AL
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Re: Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Visionet, non-payment - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
4/20/2021 2:20:38 PM (1578 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - george Hubka/MI
4/20/2021 3:13:08 PM (1614 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Rita Killary/NY
8/27/2021 6:22:23 PM (1226 views)




So, think I should risk it? - Alix Ott/MI
3/31/2021 2:12:10 PM (1644 views)
Re: So, think I should risk it? - Brandon ONeal/TN
3/31/2021 11:11:51 PM (1674 views)

Remote Online Notary Vendors - Jeanine Johnson/MN
3/31/2021 11:24:43 AM (1234 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary Vendors - Becky Schweitzer/OH
4/5/2021 9:48:14 AM (1378 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary Vendors - Robert Franco/OH
4/5/2021 12:19:01 PM (1378 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary info - Jeanine Johnson/MN
4/5/2021 1:27:06 PM (1444 views)

Abstract Software - Tony Costa/LA
3/29/2021 9:45:32 AM (1124 views)

SiteSolutionsService: ...really!?... - William Duncan/SC
3/26/2021 10:46:12 AM (1100 views)

There: FIXED! - William Duncan/SC
3/25/2021 9:33:06 AM (1166 views)

Abstractor Pro software - Kurt deVries/FL
3/23/2021 2:55:25 PM (1969 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/23/2021 3:23:07 PM (1765 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Robb Grandon/MI
3/26/2021 6:24:14 PM (2228 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Kurt deVries/FL
3/29/2021 12:04:14 PM (1648 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
3/29/2021 1:20:28 PM (1761 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
2/11/2022 11:55:06 AM (640 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Todd Camp/NJ
4/1/2021 3:08:30 PM (1592 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Andrew Trenary, Sr/OH
5/24/2021 11:00:10 AM (1411 views)

I've been hesitant to reply since seeing this post as I realize I take solicitations and privacy a bit more seriously than others.

I have never used the software as I write my own for order tracking. I ended my company's, what I would call disastrous, professional relationship with the parent (?) company over two years prior to receiving their first solicitation, to which I didn't respond.

I have continued to receive solicitations to our general email, our order reception email, as well as my personal email. When clicking the 'why did i get this?' link in the email, the page states "You are receiving this email because you opted in via our website," which absolutely isn't true. It seems to me that they likely just used the parent company's contacts to populate their mailing list.

We've unsubscribed from each address and, after a few months, we'd start receiving solicitations again. Are they just re-dumping their contacts to the list after an update? I have submitted a complaint with MailChimp, the mailing list platform, but have heard nothing back. I found another email from earlier this month in my spam folder. I do a lot to keep that spam folder empty out of fear of my provider's algorithm getting a little too eager to throw important stuff in there, as I'm sure we all do, so that's part of what finally prompted me to post this.

I don't feel my interaction with the parent company is completely relevant, but it has influenced my take on this. Upon being contacted to provide search services, I told them that they had a few needs that we wouldn't be able to meet. Their solution was to use us anyway and flood our inboxes with emails regarding those needs. It was like asking a pizza shop if they do 30 minute delivery, being told no, and then calling them 20 minutes after you ordered and every 5 minutes after. We're going to say one thing, but do another.

So, when I hear something is against their terms of service, my thoughts are, "How would we know if our client list has been used to solicit work for themselves? I've had clients let me know they've been contacted by others. But if it were to happen as a result of this and you found out, are you ready to spend money to go to court? Would that be effective anyway? If privacy of our contact information is actually a concern, how did I get on the mailing list in the first place? Are they going to treat our information more securely than they treat their own?"

As I said above, I was hesitant to post because it seems like I draw correlations where others don't. But, if I didn't have my prior experiences, I could understand someone being able to take that risk... and possibly not even consider it a risk. I know sometimes as abstractors, we feel we have to take a risk on something because of the way the industry is going. I'm a big believer that solicitations should be opt-in and someone's behavior in one area is a good indicator of how it will be in a similar one. It seems like others have had great working relationships with this company, so that combined with me sometimes being accused of taking things too seriously, kept me from commenting. But, I do have a concerns about the privacy side of this. Between that and the repeated unsolicited emails, I'd feel a bit guilty were I to hear about anything in the future. So, I felt my experiences should be out there.

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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
6/4/2021 6:04:26 PM (1691 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Andrew Trenary, Sr/OH
6/20/2021 8:00:31 PM (1201 views)

...Really...? - William Duncan/SC
3/22/2021 4:01:06 PM (1559 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/22/2021 4:11:44 PM (1669 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Robert Franco/OH
3/23/2021 9:11:22 AM (1473 views)
Re: ...Really...? - William Duncan/SC
3/23/2021 9:32:31 AM (1551 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/23/2021 3:27:39 PM (1525 views)
Re: ...Really...? - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 4:31:50 PM (1495 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Judy Maclauchlan/LA
3/25/2021 10:22:25 AM (1421 views)

"Title theft" myth persists - Alix Ott/MI
3/17/2021 6:53:36 AM (1686 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Becky Schweitzer/OH
3/22/2021 9:58:58 AM (2034 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
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Re: "Title theft" myth persists - george Hubka/MI
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Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
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Re: "Title theft" myth persists - george Hubka/MI
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Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
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