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Title Assurance & Indemnity Corp. of NA Cleveland, OH - MIchael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:01:36 PM (2104 views)

The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/1/2009 8:20:52 AM (3149 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/1/2009 6:37:04 PM (2261 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Janis Talbot/SC
2/2/2009 9:11:46 AM (2471 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/2/2009 8:34:15 PM (2239 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/3/2009 7:10:57 AM (2186 views)

What is considered slow pay? - no name/MI
1/30/2009 12:50:38 PM (2729 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:59:33 PM (2305 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 1:33:34 PM (2441 views)

Probate Question - Helene /GA
1/29/2009 11:50:27 PM (2634 views)
Re: Probate Question - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 6:52:39 AM (2317 views)
Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 9:28:41 AM (2434 views)

Ah... an excellent question that seemed so irrelevant when we studied this stuff in Property class a few years ago.  We just don't see this kind of odd-ball stuff very often.

I think that this might be a shifting executory interest, rather than a sprining executory interest.  But, I guess that would depend on how the conveyance is worded (it doesn't seem very clear to me).  A springing executory interest cuts short the grantor's interest, if a third party interest gets cut short, it is a shifting executory interest.  In this case, I get the impression that the title was conveyed to "M, but when J reaches the age of 25, then to J."  In that case, I believe that M has a fee simple interest subject to a condition subsequent - J attaining the age of 25 - and J. has a shifting executory interest, since if the condition is met it cuts short the interst of a third party, M. 

I believe that if J dies before reaching the age of 25, the executory interest terminates and M would have good title with no condition subsequent.  I think from an underwriting perspective, I would prefer to see an affidavit with an attached death certificate for J.  I don't think there would be a problem if there was something in the chain of title that clearly showed J's death before reaching the age of 25.

But, like Kevin said... this is pretty complicated and the best you can do is report your findings and let your client decide how to handle it.  It will depend on exactly how the conveyance was termed in the will.

What do you think, Kevin?  Am I understanding this well enough to pass the bar exam in July?

And, thank you so much Helene for posting such a wonderful question!  These are the kinds of topics I think we should be dicussing much more often on the forums.  We can all learn a lot from these types of exchanges.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:01:35 AM (2169 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 10:25:15 AM (2104 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:49:36 AM (2122 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Helene /GA
1/30/2009 10:38:14 PM (2232 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/31/2009 8:27:20 AM (2163 views)

Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 10:53:59 PM (4242 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 11:22:02 PM (2509 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 11:58:37 PM (2352 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 8:07:42 AM (2482 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:15:04 AM (2454 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:16:02 AM (2404 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Alix Ott/MI
2/2/2009 2:10:27 PM (2179 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 8:46:02 AM (2331 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:55:40 PM (2251 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - michael quinn/NY
2/1/2009 1:09:50 AM (2189 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/1/2009 6:01:27 AM (2261 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - WAYNE QUICK/NC
2/2/2009 6:16:26 PM (2183 views)


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The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 2:56:14 PM (2898 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Kim Cowles/WI
1/29/2009 2:59:08 PM (2385 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 3:48:35 PM (2296 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/29/2009 6:58:44 PM (2253 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Barbara Kelley/PA
2/2/2009 8:50:30 AM (2198 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Robert Franco/OH
2/2/2009 9:33:45 AM (2353 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/3/2009 10:43:16 PM (2290 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Anthony Joseph/TX
2/4/2009 8:22:07 AM (2391 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2009 6:04:15 AM (1923 views)

MONEY OWED - quinn cioffi/PA
1/28/2009 2:38:15 PM (2926 views)
Re: MONEY OWED - Laurie E/MD
1/28/2009 6:04:33 PM (2190 views)
Re: MONEY OWED - george Hubka/MI
2/24/2009 6:51:47 PM (1883 views)

New Real Estate Numbers Are Out - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 2:25:36 PM (3704 views)

Snow Day! - Robert Franco/OH
1/28/2009 12:39:37 PM (2618 views)
Re: Snow Day! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
1/28/2009 12:45:16 PM (2263 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Nils Nelson/ME
1/28/2009 4:37:10 PM (2283 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Joanie Hahr/VT
1/28/2009 5:05:58 PM (2103 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/28/2009 11:14:51 PM (2153 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/29/2009 2:39:41 PM (2059 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/29/2009 3:36:29 PM (2086 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 10:41:24 PM (2240 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/30/2009 3:55:14 PM (2393 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/31/2009 10:31:02 AM (2230 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/31/2009 10:30:35 AM (2204 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/31/2009 12:36:02 PM (2106 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/31/2009 3:42:38 PM (2190 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/31/2009 3:44:38 PM (2119 views)

NALTEA - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 12:13:09 PM (2454 views)
Re: NALTEA - Dave Pelligrinelli/GA
1/28/2009 1:05:51 PM (2211 views)
Re: NALTEA - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 9:54:56 PM (2184 views)

Buckeye Land Abstract - Sybil East/GA
1/27/2009 12:54:18 PM (2859 views)

Another NON-Payer - Kurt deVries/FL
1/27/2009 12:19:30 PM (2530 views)

Title Insurance - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/27/2009 10:54:55 AM (2695 views)
Re: Title Insurance - Robert Franco/OH
1/27/2009 11:37:48 AM (2430 views)
Re: Title Insurance - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/27/2009 11:49:53 AM (2244 views)
Re: Title Insurance - Pete Kisan/OH
2/4/2009 8:45:38 AM (2405 views)

Infotrack Information Services - Edward Huguenin/SC
1/27/2009 7:12:47 AM (2897 views)
Re: Infotrack Information Services - Sandra Harold/KS
2/11/2009 11:30:35 AM (2402 views)
Re: Infotrack Information Services - Greg Paszkiewicz/NJ
2/23/2009 12:49:29 PM (2421 views)
Re: Infotrack Information Services - Frank NAVARRO/IL
4/8/2009 12:46:12 PM (2309 views)

gdocs / Boondocs BK info - george Hubka/MI
1/23/2009 10:49:37 PM (2791 views)
Re: gdocs / Boondocs BK info - Steve /NY
2/3/2009 10:29:32 AM (2237 views)
Re: gdocs / Boondocs BK info - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/3/2009 11:07:18 AM (2176 views)
Re: gdocs / Boondocs BK info - Patrick/NY
2/3/2009 11:16:12 AM (2113 views)
Re: gdocs / Boondocs BK info - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/3/2009 11:44:57 AM (2185 views)
Re: gdocs / Boondocs BK info - Patrick/NY
2/3/2009 12:10:34 PM (2158 views)
Re: gdocs / Boondocs BK info - Marian Littleton/VA
3/4/2009 11:35:26 AM (2155 views)


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