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ESS Soultions, LLC - Robert Breakell/CT
5/13/2009 4:41:05 PM (6270 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - KRISTI HERRING/ID
5/13/2009 5:32:29 PM (4187 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Robert Breakell/CT
5/13/2009 6:56:56 PM (4219 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:29:49 AM (3964 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Robert Breakell/CT
5/15/2009 4:02:51 PM (3923 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - SM/WI
5/14/2009 3:09:10 PM (4033 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/14/2009 5:16:20 PM (3972 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - SM/WI
5/14/2009 6:26:31 PM (3996 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Barbara Kelley/PA
5/18/2009 8:03:41 AM (3824 views)
Re: ESS Soultions, LLC - Alix Ott/MI
5/18/2009 10:28:58 AM (3960 views)

Maverick National Services, LLC - Ron McPherson/IA
5/13/2009 10:27:35 AM (5925 views)

More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/13/2009 9:59:18 AM (5237 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/13/2009 12:00:36 PM (3796 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/13/2009 3:44:12 PM (3884 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/13/2009 6:00:07 PM (3901 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jean Allen/NC
5/13/2009 8:12:10 PM (3795 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:39:42 AM (3636 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jean Allen/NC
5/14/2009 3:51:57 PM (3699 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/14/2009 4:35:51 PM (3755 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Ron McPherson/IA
5/13/2009 9:00:29 PM (3723 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Helene /GA
5/13/2009 10:50:29 PM (3733 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:41:30 AM (3722 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Dorothy Payne/NY
5/14/2009 12:10:40 AM (3664 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:42:35 AM (3607 views)
Re: More fees to advance - William Case/TN
5/14/2009 10:13:52 AM (5544 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Diane Cipa/PA
5/18/2009 11:47:00 AM (3698 views)

Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Bill Jones/NJ
5/12/2009 10:38:46 AM (9850 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Shona Dunning/WY
5/12/2009 11:10:25 AM (5089 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/12/2009 3:00:13 PM (4438 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Kim/WI
5/13/2009 9:34:44 AM (4569 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Mandy Harmon/SC
5/18/2009 3:59:54 PM (4175 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Michele  Peele/NC
5/18/2009 8:17:18 PM (4113 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - george Hubka/MI
5/18/2009 8:27:06 PM (4172 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Mike Campbell/FL
5/20/2009 3:22:01 PM (5212 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - george Hubka/MI
5/20/2009 8:51:04 PM (4267 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Mike Campbell/FL
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Status - Becky Vigneault/VT
5/11/2009 9:31:54 PM (3165 views)




Carteret Title - Kristi Lee/NE
5/11/2009 11:38:32 AM (4218 views)
Re: Carteret Title - Shona Dunning/WY
5/11/2009 2:44:04 PM (4009 views)
Re: Carteret Title - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 8:57:54 PM (3871 views)
Re: Carteret Title - Jean Lurtsema/AK
5/11/2009 10:42:52 PM (4031 views)
Re: Carteret Title - Ron McPherson/IA
5/13/2009 8:36:48 PM (3870 views)

Applied Technology Resources - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
5/8/2009 6:06:33 PM (4030 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Kimberly Gray/AR
5/11/2009 6:41:39 AM (3895 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Mandy Harmon/SC
5/11/2009 12:44:55 PM (3895 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Nils Nelson/ME
5/11/2009 8:25:00 PM (3657 views)

Woman admits taking $3.4M from SP company - George Booth/OH
5/6/2009 10:29:06 PM (4555 views)

Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
5/6/2009 7:12:06 PM (3943 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/6/2009 8:17:09 PM (3981 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Dan Zook/NY
5/7/2009 9:13:42 AM (3836 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:16:05 PM (3814 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - William Pattison /CA
5/28/2009 1:01:52 PM (3533 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
5/29/2009 9:57:09 PM (3564 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Constance Foye/VA
5/11/2009 12:35:17 PM (3956 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
5/12/2009 9:12:19 AM (3708 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/30/2009 8:10:43 AM (3601 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - george Hubka/MI
6/10/2009 10:57:40 PM (3539 views)

REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Frank NAVARRO/IL
5/6/2009 7:11:32 PM (13575 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:10:43 PM (4727 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Frank NAVARRO/IL
5/8/2009 6:44:57 PM (5248 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - TS/WI
5/10/2009 12:49:37 AM (4983 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
5/11/2009 7:58:50 AM (4546 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Jean Lurtsema/AK
5/11/2009 10:48:08 PM (4479 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
5/14/2009 8:10:20 AM (4320 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Ellen Maher/MI
6/12/2009 12:29:16 PM (4139 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
6/14/2009 10:25:40 PM (4395 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Wade Briner/MN
6/11/2009 3:44:53 PM (4330 views)

Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - Cheryl Hartzman/PA
5/4/2009 3:30:31 PM (4588 views)
Re: Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - Barbara King/VA
5/11/2009 9:46:58 AM (4032 views)
Re: Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - george Hubka/MI
5/14/2009 8:12:08 AM (3747 views)

New Clients - Mike /KS
5/3/2009 8:19:42 AM (4563 views)
Re: New Clients - monica froese/ME
5/3/2009 9:39:52 PM (4081 views)
Re: New Clients - george Hubka/MI
5/4/2009 7:54:05 AM (3995 views)
Re: New Clients - Robert Franco/OH
5/4/2009 10:50:19 AM (3942 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/4/2009 11:52:50 AM (3999 views)
Re: New Clients - Dan Zook/NY
5/4/2009 1:31:05 PM (3874 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/7/2009 5:37:42 PM (3750 views)
Re: New Clients - Constance Foye/VA
5/12/2009 6:39:45 PM (3643 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/5/2009 8:47:15 AM (3896 views)
Re: New Clients - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/8/2009 12:25:22 AM (3780 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/8/2009 10:40:51 AM (3676 views)
Re: New Clients - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 8:44:42 AM (3649 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/11/2009 12:24:12 PM (3643 views)
Re: New Clients - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 3:41:38 PM (3658 views)
I did not post about .. - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/11/2009 4:03:12 PM (3581 views)
Re: New Clients - Joseph Weaver/VA
5/11/2009 5:27:48 PM (3673 views)
Re: New Clients - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/8/2009 12:25:26 AM (3698 views)
Re: New Clients - Jennifer Lawrence/AR
5/11/2009 8:14:51 AM (3597 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/13/2009 3:26:27 PM (3731 views)
Re: New Clients - Margaret Haddock/TN
5/11/2009 8:44:18 AM (3686 views)
Re: New Clients - Jason Knowles/AL
5/15/2009 3:36:04 PM (3649 views)
Re: New Clients - William Pattison /CA
5/28/2009 1:09:31 PM (3460 views)

Why don't we charge up front? - Patrick Ridens/CO
5/2/2009 11:34:19 PM (4799 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Chad/OR
5/3/2009 8:23:01 AM (3905 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Alix Ott/MI
5/4/2009 8:03:35 AM (4012 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Patricia Kearney/OH
8/4/2009 9:37:45 AM (3367 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - William Case/TN
5/4/2009 3:20:41 PM (5854 views)

Greetings Patrick:

I do require payment at the time services are rendered with some clients.

If I get an order from someone with whom I have never dealt, and with whom I will probably never deal again, I tell them up front that upon my completion of their work they will be invoiced via PayPal and upon payment of the invoice I will forward my opinion of title.

Invariably three things happen next:

   1. They say that they have never done things that way before. I politely tell them that I understand, but that is how I work with new, out of town, clients.
   2. They then say that they do not have a PayPal account. I remind them that they do not need a PayPal account to pay via PayPal, and direct them to the PayPal site to learn more. They say they will look into it. I figure that half the time they are shopping around for someone else, but then...
   3. They call back and say they will pay via PayPal.

I have done this multiple times. Always with success.

When doing this it is important ...

   1. that you are polite and professional
   2. that you do not project an arrogant "take it or leave it" attitude
   3. that you are ready for their objections with the answers set out above

Since you are usually talking to someone lower on the food chain, and not the ultimate decision maker, remember to...

   1. Be kind, they are doing the best they can with the novel situation you have just presented.
   2. Adopt a helpful attitude and briefly educate him/her about PayPal so they can report back to their superiors knowledgeably.
   3. Point out that you are not requesting money up front. Remind them that they will only be billed upon completion of the work. Assure them that you are raring to go on their project as soon as they give you the word and "times a wastin."
   4. Do what you promise to do and send them the work immediately when they pay.

I do not do this with clients with whom I've developed a good working relationship, but I do monitor their payments carefully.

You take a certain amount of risk here by working without payment up front. However, if they do not pay you as agreed you simply do not send the work. It's better than submitting work that the unknown client uses then never pays you for.

Remember too that in the scenario I am describing, the client does not know you either. You at least take steps to alleviate their fears of the great unknown (namely, YOU) by not requiring payment until you at least purport to have done the work. Additionally, they have the hope of some recourse through PayPal for reimbursement of their payment should you utterly fail to deliver the product you invoiced them for.

There are two other things going for you right now that make it easier to take the PayPal approach I outline above:

   1. In the current fearful economic climate it is understandable for parties who do not know each other to deal with each other more cautiously, even if that means adopting new non-standard methods as long as those methods appear reasonable and secure.
   2. Over the years, in spite of its rather lame name, PayPal has come to symbolize security in internet payments between parties who do not know each other. It is the way to pay for goods and services on the internet. eBay saw this early on. That's why they acquired PayPal in a 1.3 billion dollar stock deal in 2002. A bit of PayPal’s image rubs off on you by using them. Guilt by association you know.

I hope this gives you some food for thought. As I said, I do not use PayPal across the board, but I use it frequently when the situation seems to call for it. It is one more tool for your tool box.

Sincerely,

David Case

wdavidcase.com

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Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Alix Ott/MI
5/11/2009 10:01:43 AM (3614 views)

transactional funding - Chet Mazur/CA
5/2/2009 3:32:46 PM (3831 views)
Good Luck, Dude. - Patrick Scott/IL
5/2/2009 9:49:02 PM (3579 views)
Re: Good Luck, Dude. - Thomas/FL
5/7/2009 8:07:41 PM (3548 views)
Re: Good Luck, Dude. - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:37:57 PM (3417 views)

National TitleNet - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
5/1/2009 6:11:42 PM (3844 views)
Re: National TitleNet - Nils Nelson/ME
5/1/2009 6:50:31 PM (3794 views)
Re: National TitleNet - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
5/1/2009 6:59:34 PM (3724 views)


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