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Maverick National Services, LLC - Ron McPherson/IA
5/13/2009 10:27:35 AM (6037 views)

More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/13/2009 9:59:18 AM (5357 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/13/2009 12:00:36 PM (4173 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/13/2009 3:44:12 PM (4231 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/13/2009 6:00:07 PM (4238 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jean Allen/NC
5/13/2009 8:12:10 PM (4175 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:39:42 AM (4015 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jean Allen/NC
5/14/2009 3:51:57 PM (4040 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/14/2009 4:35:51 PM (4096 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Ron McPherson/IA
5/13/2009 9:00:29 PM (4069 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Helene /GA
5/13/2009 10:50:29 PM (4084 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:41:30 AM (4099 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Dorothy Payne/NY
5/14/2009 12:10:40 AM (4033 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:42:35 AM (3979 views)
Re: More fees to advance - William Case/TN
5/14/2009 10:13:52 AM (5930 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Diane Cipa/PA
5/18/2009 11:47:00 AM (4018 views)

Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Bill Jones/NJ
5/12/2009 10:38:46 AM (9934 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Shona Dunning/WY
5/12/2009 11:10:25 AM (5439 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/12/2009 3:00:13 PM (4760 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Kim/WI
5/13/2009 9:34:44 AM (4905 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Mandy Harmon/SC
5/18/2009 3:59:54 PM (4501 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Michele  Peele/NC
5/18/2009 8:17:18 PM (4426 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - george Hubka/MI
5/18/2009 8:27:06 PM (4502 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Mike Campbell/FL
5/20/2009 3:22:01 PM (5576 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - george Hubka/MI
5/20/2009 8:51:04 PM (4574 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Mike Campbell/FL
4/6/2012 11:45:29 AM (6164 views)

Status - Becky Vigneault/VT
5/11/2009 9:31:54 PM (3248 views)

Carteret Title - Kristi Lee/NE
5/11/2009 11:38:32 AM (4315 views)
Re: Carteret Title - Shona Dunning/WY
5/11/2009 2:44:04 PM (4328 views)
Re: Carteret Title - martha campbell/VA
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Re: Carteret Title - Jean Lurtsema/AK
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Re: Carteret Title - Ron McPherson/IA
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Applied Technology Resources - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
5/8/2009 6:06:33 PM (4099 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Kimberly Gray/AR
5/11/2009 6:41:39 AM (4262 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Mandy Harmon/SC
5/11/2009 12:44:55 PM (4290 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Nils Nelson/ME
5/11/2009 8:25:00 PM (4029 views)

Woman admits taking $3.4M from SP company - George Booth/OH
5/6/2009 10:29:06 PM (4674 views)

Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
5/6/2009 7:12:06 PM (4033 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/6/2009 8:17:09 PM (4396 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Dan Zook/NY
5/7/2009 9:13:42 AM (4231 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:16:05 PM (4189 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - William Pattison /CA
5/28/2009 1:01:52 PM (3937 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
5/29/2009 9:57:09 PM (3972 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Constance Foye/VA
5/11/2009 12:35:17 PM (4366 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
5/12/2009 9:12:19 AM (4093 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/30/2009 8:10:43 AM (4034 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - george Hubka/MI
6/10/2009 10:57:40 PM (3958 views)

REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Frank NAVARRO/IL
5/6/2009 7:11:32 PM (13689 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:10:43 PM (5102 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Frank NAVARRO/IL
5/8/2009 6:44:57 PM (5605 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - TS/WI
5/10/2009 12:49:37 AM (5394 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
5/11/2009 7:58:50 AM (4925 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Jean Lurtsema/AK
5/11/2009 10:48:08 PM (4874 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
5/14/2009 8:10:20 AM (4739 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Ellen Maher/MI
6/12/2009 12:29:16 PM (4578 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
6/14/2009 10:25:40 PM (4741 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Wade Briner/MN
6/11/2009 3:44:53 PM (4677 views)

Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - Cheryl Hartzman/PA
5/4/2009 3:30:31 PM (4701 views)
Re: Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - Barbara King/VA
5/11/2009 9:46:58 AM (4509 views)
Re: Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - george Hubka/MI
5/14/2009 8:12:08 AM (4129 views)

New Clients - Mike /KS
5/3/2009 8:19:42 AM (4621 views)
Re: New Clients - monica froese/ME
5/3/2009 9:39:52 PM (4492 views)
Re: New Clients - george Hubka/MI
5/4/2009 7:54:05 AM (4388 views)
Re: New Clients - Robert Franco/OH
5/4/2009 10:50:19 AM (4311 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/4/2009 11:52:50 AM (4391 views)
Re: New Clients - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: New Clients - Constance Foye/VA
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Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/5/2009 8:47:15 AM (4273 views)
Re: New Clients - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/8/2009 12:25:22 AM (4122 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/8/2009 10:40:51 AM (4083 views)
Re: New Clients - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 8:44:42 AM (4043 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/11/2009 12:24:12 PM (3986 views)
Re: New Clients - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 3:41:38 PM (4005 views)
I did not post about .. - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/11/2009 4:03:12 PM (3949 views)
Re: New Clients - Joseph Weaver/VA
5/11/2009 5:27:48 PM (4027 views)
Re: New Clients - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/8/2009 12:25:26 AM (4049 views)
Re: New Clients - Jennifer Lawrence/AR
5/11/2009 8:14:51 AM (3973 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/13/2009 3:26:27 PM (4091 views)
Re: New Clients - Margaret Haddock/TN
5/11/2009 8:44:18 AM (4050 views)
Re: New Clients - Jason Knowles/AL
5/15/2009 3:36:04 PM (3986 views)
Re: New Clients - William Pattison /CA
5/28/2009 1:09:31 PM (3781 views)

Why don't we charge up front? - Patrick Ridens/CO
5/2/2009 11:34:19 PM (4927 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Chad/OR
5/3/2009 8:23:01 AM (4252 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Alix Ott/MI
5/4/2009 8:03:35 AM (4340 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Patricia Kearney/OH
8/4/2009 9:37:45 AM (3686 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - William Case/TN
5/4/2009 3:20:41 PM (6220 views)

Greetings Patrick:

I do require payment at the time services are rendered with some clients.

If I get an order from someone with whom I have never dealt, and with whom I will probably never deal again, I tell them up front that upon my completion of their work they will be invoiced via PayPal and upon payment of the invoice I will forward my opinion of title.

Invariably three things happen next:

   1. They say that they have never done things that way before. I politely tell them that I understand, but that is how I work with new, out of town, clients.
   2. They then say that they do not have a PayPal account. I remind them that they do not need a PayPal account to pay via PayPal, and direct them to the PayPal site to learn more. They say they will look into it. I figure that half the time they are shopping around for someone else, but then...
   3. They call back and say they will pay via PayPal.

I have done this multiple times. Always with success.

When doing this it is important ...

   1. that you are polite and professional
   2. that you do not project an arrogant "take it or leave it" attitude
   3. that you are ready for their objections with the answers set out above

Since you are usually talking to someone lower on the food chain, and not the ultimate decision maker, remember to...

   1. Be kind, they are doing the best they can with the novel situation you have just presented.
   2. Adopt a helpful attitude and briefly educate him/her about PayPal so they can report back to their superiors knowledgeably.
   3. Point out that you are not requesting money up front. Remind them that they will only be billed upon completion of the work. Assure them that you are raring to go on their project as soon as they give you the word and "times a wastin."
   4. Do what you promise to do and send them the work immediately when they pay.

I do not do this with clients with whom I've developed a good working relationship, but I do monitor their payments carefully.

You take a certain amount of risk here by working without payment up front. However, if they do not pay you as agreed you simply do not send the work. It's better than submitting work that the unknown client uses then never pays you for.

Remember too that in the scenario I am describing, the client does not know you either. You at least take steps to alleviate their fears of the great unknown (namely, YOU) by not requiring payment until you at least purport to have done the work. Additionally, they have the hope of some recourse through PayPal for reimbursement of their payment should you utterly fail to deliver the product you invoiced them for.

There are two other things going for you right now that make it easier to take the PayPal approach I outline above:

   1. In the current fearful economic climate it is understandable for parties who do not know each other to deal with each other more cautiously, even if that means adopting new non-standard methods as long as those methods appear reasonable and secure.
   2. Over the years, in spite of its rather lame name, PayPal has come to symbolize security in internet payments between parties who do not know each other. It is the way to pay for goods and services on the internet. eBay saw this early on. That's why they acquired PayPal in a 1.3 billion dollar stock deal in 2002. A bit of PayPal’s image rubs off on you by using them. Guilt by association you know.

I hope this gives you some food for thought. As I said, I do not use PayPal across the board, but I use it frequently when the situation seems to call for it. It is one more tool for your tool box.

Sincerely,

David Case

wdavidcase.com

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Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Alix Ott/MI
5/11/2009 10:01:43 AM (3985 views)

transactional funding - Chet Mazur/CA
5/2/2009 3:32:46 PM (3910 views)
Good Luck, Dude. - Patrick Scott/IL
5/2/2009 9:49:02 PM (3961 views)
Re: Good Luck, Dude. - Thomas/FL
5/7/2009 8:07:41 PM (3885 views)
Re: Good Luck, Dude. - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:37:57 PM (3740 views)

National TitleNet - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
5/1/2009 6:11:42 PM (3940 views)
Re: National TitleNet - Nils Nelson/ME
5/1/2009 6:50:31 PM (4119 views)
Re: National TitleNet - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
5/1/2009 6:59:34 PM (4048 views)

Reliance Information Source (sorry) - Dan Zook/NY
5/1/2009 12:52:19 PM (3964 views)
Re: Reliance Information Source (sorry) - Nils Nelson/ME
5/1/2009 6:47:37 PM (4126 views)
Re: Reliance Information Source (sorry) - Dorothy Payne/NY
5/1/2009 7:20:07 PM (4128 views)
Thank you! - Dan Zook/NY
5/4/2009 11:12:27 AM (3848 views)


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