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Bulletins... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Bulletins... - Robert Franco/OH
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Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2009 3:52:44 PM (3330 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - monica froese/ME
2/7/2009 7:05:41 PM (3355 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
2/9/2009 12:38:44 AM (3285 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - martha campbell/VA
2/9/2009 7:03:37 AM (3185 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
2/9/2009 1:10:27 PM (3199 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Matthew Hall/CA
2/9/2009 6:49:08 PM (3147 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
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Re: Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
2/11/2009 12:36:08 PM (3051 views)

Best E-Recording Software Provider? - Matt Daly/WI
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Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Alix Ott/MI
2/6/2009 9:25:33 AM (3831 views)
Re: Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Michelle/IL
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Re: Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Wanda Steudel/OH
2/9/2009 9:30:21 AM (3155 views)

American Title, inc. - Erin Carraway/NY
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Re: American Title, inc. - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
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Re: American Title, inc. - Erin Carraway/NY
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Re: American Title, inc. - Carl Ashford/CO
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Re: American Title, inc. - Sandra Morton/KS
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Re: American Title, inc. - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: American Title, inc. - Alix Ott/MI
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Re: American Title, inc. - george Hubka/MI
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Re: American Title, inc. - Michael Vernon/AZ
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ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Cindy Thomas/NY
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Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Constance Foye/VA
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Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Greg Paszkiewicz/NJ
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Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - george Hubka/MI
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Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Smitty Strickland/SC
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nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/5/2009 8:59:26 AM (3551 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/5/2009 10:47:19 AM (6275 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/5/2009 2:22:14 PM (3342 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/5/2009 3:22:23 PM (3384 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/9/2009 2:44:32 PM (3409 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2009 2:52:37 PM (3322 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/9/2009 3:15:32 PM (3217 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - cindy thomas/NY
2/9/2009 5:02:31 PM (5748 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - nXt Generation Title Services, LLC/FL
2/10/2009 10:52:31 AM (3249 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/10/2009 12:58:43 PM (3321 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:42:56 PM (3182 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:20:01 PM (3069 views)

mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
2/4/2009 3:48:02 PM (3300 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 3:51:15 PM (3162 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
2/4/2009 3:56:52 PM (3220 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2009 4:00:55 PM (3081 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
2/8/2009 4:18:20 PM (3003 views)

Off the beaten path - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/3/2009 10:36:52 PM (3206 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/3/2009 11:31:49 PM (3248 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Patrick Scott/IL
2/4/2009 12:01:44 AM (3204 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 12:55:17 AM (3251 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 10:42:36 AM (3187 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 10:52:16 AM (3207 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 11:18:23 AM (3084 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/5/2009 4:48:33 PM (3140 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/5/2009 7:43:44 PM (5667 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 10:09:45 AM (2917 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2009 11:53:54 AM (2979 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 12:44:49 PM (2888 views)

I have looked into it and I don't think it is viable... there are too many problems.

  1. the middle class mostly spends more than they make.  We have a negative savings rate in this country.  At 30%, they would all lose out on the benefits of the graduated income tax, where the rate starts at only 10%.  Thus, most people who make between $30,000 and $200,000 would pay significantly higher taxes.  They wouldn't just pay tax on what they make, they would also pay tax on what they borrow and spend!
  2. There would certainly have to be exceptions for major purchases like homes - can you imagine what a 30% tax would do the housing market?
  3. Your crime analogy is flawed.... we would actually have more crime because those drug dealers you mention would diversify into stolen goods to be sold on the black market - with no taxes!  Just consider the bootleg cigarette market that sprung up after the cigarette tax was implemented.  And, what about all of the sales through E-bay and other online vendors - do you think they would charge a 30% tax?  Policing that would be just as burdensome as the current income tax - maybe more so.  Employers are much better at collecting income taxes than all of the vendors would be collecting sales tax.
  4. What about all of the people who have invested in Roth IRAs? They have already paid the tax on their retirement savings - they would be taxed AGAIN when they draw it out and spend it.  How is that for rewarding those that have planned for their retirement?  There is a similar problem with those who have invested in tax free muni-bonds and the like.
  5. The rich could still escape much of their tax burden by saving more - they are the only group that currently saves anything as it is.  And, if people save more, to cut their tax burden, the economy suffers.  As people spend less, the rate of the Fair Tax would be insufficient and it would have to go up - creating more of a burden on the middle class.  Those selling luxury items would be the hardest hit and many of the companies that make luxury goods would see sales decline and they would have to charge more for their products - making them even less appealing.  And, the middle class workers employed by these industries would suffer lob losses.  It would be a devastating cycle.
  6. How would the government function during economic recessions when unemployment rises and people spend less?  The Fair Tax would be much more volatile and it would make creating a balanced budget even more difficult. 

The Fair Tax is an appealing gimmick, but it is not really well thought out.  If you tried to make the Fair Tax workable and really fair - it would be just as complicated as the current income tax and it would still require a huge bureaucracy to police.

Sorry... I'm not a fan of it and I don't think we will ever see it.  If we tried it, I think we would end up trying to phase it in along side the income tax and we would end up having both.  We would never really be able to escape the income tax completely and we would just end up with two complicated tax systems.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2009 1:51:09 PM (2873 views)
Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2009 1:09:11 PM (3132 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Scott Perry/PA
2/10/2009 3:26:30 AM (2902 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/10/2009 9:59:16 AM (2892 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
2/11/2009 1:07:54 PM (2842 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/11/2009 1:43:23 PM (2815 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/11/2009 4:48:23 PM (2846 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/12/2009 12:46:38 AM (2779 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/11/2009 5:06:23 PM (2831 views)
As I Was Saying... - Scott Perry/PA
2/16/2009 12:14:21 AM (2816 views)
Re: As I Was Saying... - Robert Franco/OH
2/16/2009 11:56:29 AM (2930 views)
Re: Commercial Activity Tax... - Robert Franco/OH
2/16/2009 3:04:27 PM (5387 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/6/2009 4:45:51 PM (3006 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/6/2009 6:17:30 AM (2888 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 10:03:24 AM (2903 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 10:47:54 AM (3076 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 11:06:18 AM (2925 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:10:33 AM (2870 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 11:31:26 AM (2933 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:59:28 AM (2992 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/4/2009 3:28:50 PM (2811 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:21:39 AM (2910 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/5/2009 4:25:01 PM (3037 views)

reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:20:18 PM (3044 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Robert Franco/OH
2/3/2009 2:25:20 PM (3323 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michelle/IL
2/4/2009 1:18:59 PM (2981 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - J Nisonger/CA
2/5/2009 10:00:22 PM (3075 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michael Lanin/KY
2/6/2009 12:52:40 PM (2966 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2009 3:56:45 PM (2916 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:18:17 PM (2750 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/17/2009 9:17:45 AM (2858 views)

Title Assurance & Indemnity Corp. of NA Cleveland, OH - MIchael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:01:36 PM (2334 views)

The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/1/2009 8:20:52 AM (3474 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/1/2009 6:37:04 PM (3119 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Janis Talbot/SC
2/2/2009 9:11:46 AM (3356 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/2/2009 8:34:15 PM (3193 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/3/2009 7:10:57 AM (3067 views)

What is considered slow pay? - no name/MI
1/30/2009 12:50:38 PM (3067 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:59:33 PM (3165 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 1:33:34 PM (3323 views)

Probate Question - Helene /GA
1/29/2009 11:50:27 PM (2957 views)
Re: Probate Question - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 6:52:39 AM (3284 views)
Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 9:28:41 AM (3348 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:01:35 AM (3091 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 10:25:15 AM (2961 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:49:36 AM (3017 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Helene /GA
1/30/2009 10:38:14 PM (3060 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/31/2009 8:27:20 AM (3073 views)

Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 10:53:59 PM (4637 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 11:22:02 PM (3346 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 11:58:37 PM (3170 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 8:07:42 AM (3340 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:15:04 AM (3353 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:16:02 AM (3242 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Alix Ott/MI
2/2/2009 2:10:27 PM (3047 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 8:46:02 AM (3216 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:55:40 PM (3071 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - michael quinn/NY
2/1/2009 1:09:50 AM (3031 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/1/2009 6:01:27 AM (3151 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - WAYNE QUICK/NC
2/2/2009 6:16:26 PM (3051 views)


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