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Bulletins... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Bulletins... - Robert Franco/OH
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Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2009 3:52:44 PM (3330 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - monica froese/ME
2/7/2009 7:05:41 PM (3356 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
2/9/2009 12:38:44 AM (3285 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - martha campbell/VA
2/9/2009 7:03:37 AM (3186 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
2/9/2009 1:10:27 PM (3200 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - Matthew Hall/CA
2/9/2009 6:49:08 PM (3148 views)
Re: Lenders First Choice - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
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Re: Lenders First Choice - J Nisonger/CA
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Best E-Recording Software Provider? - Matt Daly/WI
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Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Alix Ott/MI
2/6/2009 9:25:33 AM (3831 views)
Re: Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Michelle/IL
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Re: Ameristar -- please settle an argument for me - Wanda Steudel/OH
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American Title, inc. - Erin Carraway/NY
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Re: American Title, inc. - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
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Re: American Title, inc. - Erin Carraway/NY
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Re: American Title, inc. - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: American Title, inc. - Alix Ott/MI
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ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Scott Perry/PA
2/5/2009 11:57:53 AM (3291 views)
Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Cindy Thomas/NY
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Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Constance Foye/VA
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Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Greg Paszkiewicz/NJ
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Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - george Hubka/MI
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Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Smitty Strickland/SC
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nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/5/2009 8:59:26 AM (3552 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
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Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/5/2009 2:22:14 PM (3343 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2009 2:52:37 PM (3323 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/9/2009 3:15:32 PM (3218 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - cindy thomas/NY
2/9/2009 5:02:31 PM (5749 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - nXt Generation Title Services, LLC/FL
2/10/2009 10:52:31 AM (3249 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/10/2009 12:58:43 PM (3322 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:42:56 PM (3182 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:20:01 PM (3069 views)

mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
2/4/2009 3:48:02 PM (3300 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 3:51:15 PM (3163 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
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Re: mortgage fraud - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
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Off the beaten path - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/3/2009 10:36:52 PM (3206 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/3/2009 11:31:49 PM (3249 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Patrick Scott/IL
2/4/2009 12:01:44 AM (3206 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 12:55:17 AM (3253 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 10:42:36 AM (3188 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 10:52:16 AM (3208 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/5/2009 4:48:33 PM (3144 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/5/2009 7:43:44 PM (5667 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 10:09:45 AM (2918 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2009 11:53:54 AM (2981 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 12:44:49 PM (2889 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2009 1:51:09 PM (2873 views)

Well, you do raise some good points, all of which are addressed in the plan.  I won't go into too much detail here, but a couple of things you cited jumped out at me.  For example:

There would certainly have to be exceptions for major purchases like homes - can you imagine what a 30% tax would do the housing market?

Only new items would be subject to the tax.  Used or pre-owned items, like automobiles or homes, for example, would be exempt.  Also, prices on new items would be reduced by about 25% due to the elimination of the "hidden taxes" and compliance costs which are now built into the price of most goods and services.

Your crime analogy is flawed.... we would actually have more crime because those drug dealers you mention would diversify into stolen goods to be sold on the black market - with no taxes! 

I didn't say anything about reducing crime.  What you say is true, but the drug dealer or the bootlegger still wants to "live large" and have his big homes, his fancy new cars and his "bling".  He'd still be paying taxes on all that stuff.

What about all of the people who have invested in Roth IRAs? They have already paid the tax on their retirement savings - they would be taxed AGAIN when they draw it out and spend it.  How is that for rewarding those that have planned for their retirement?  There is a similar problem with those who have invested in tax free muni-bonds and the like.

Under the current system, savings on such investments are already taxed a second time when spent because of all the "hidden taxes" and compliance costs cited above.  So what's the difference?

The rich could still escape much of their tax burden by saving more - they are the only group that currently saves anything as it is.  And, if people save more, to cut their tax burden, the economy suffers.

I refer you to my reply to your objection about the "underground economy", supra.  Rich people still like their toys.  What good is being wealthy if you can't flaunt your wealth?  It's human nature.  Besides, like I stated above, things like that would cost less under the FairTax.

How would the government function during economic recessions when unemployment rises and people spend less?  The Fair Tax would be much more volatile and it would make creating a balanced budget even more difficult.

Still no different than under the current system, in which revenue to the federal Treasury declines during recessions.  The diifference is that that the FairTax taxes a broader and more stable base, and thus would actually mitigate the effects of a recession on lower income earners.

 If we tried it, I think we would end up trying to phase it in along side the income tax and we would end up having both.  We would never really be able to escape the income tax completely and we would just end up with two complicated tax systems.

That's true, and the FairTax bill would require the elimination of the current system, although the 16th Amendment would have to be repealed to eliminate the possiblilty of a return to taxation of income.

Regards,
Scott Perry

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Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2009 1:09:11 PM (3133 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Scott Perry/PA
2/10/2009 3:26:30 AM (2903 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/10/2009 9:59:16 AM (2893 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
2/11/2009 1:07:54 PM (2843 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/11/2009 1:43:23 PM (2816 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/11/2009 4:48:23 PM (2847 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/12/2009 12:46:38 AM (2780 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/11/2009 5:06:23 PM (2831 views)
As I Was Saying... - Scott Perry/PA
2/16/2009 12:14:21 AM (2818 views)
Re: As I Was Saying... - Robert Franco/OH
2/16/2009 11:56:29 AM (2932 views)
Re: Commercial Activity Tax... - Robert Franco/OH
2/16/2009 3:04:27 PM (5388 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/6/2009 4:45:51 PM (3006 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/6/2009 6:17:30 AM (2888 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 10:03:24 AM (2904 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 10:47:54 AM (3079 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 11:06:18 AM (2926 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:10:33 AM (2871 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 11:31:26 AM (2934 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:59:28 AM (2993 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/4/2009 3:28:50 PM (2812 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:21:39 AM (2910 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/5/2009 4:25:01 PM (3037 views)

reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:20:18 PM (3044 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Robert Franco/OH
2/3/2009 2:25:20 PM (3323 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michelle/IL
2/4/2009 1:18:59 PM (2982 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - J Nisonger/CA
2/5/2009 10:00:22 PM (3075 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michael Lanin/KY
2/6/2009 12:52:40 PM (2969 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2009 3:56:45 PM (2917 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:18:17 PM (2751 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/17/2009 9:17:45 AM (2859 views)

Title Assurance & Indemnity Corp. of NA Cleveland, OH - MIchael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:01:36 PM (2334 views)

The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/1/2009 8:20:52 AM (3474 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/1/2009 6:37:04 PM (3120 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Janis Talbot/SC
2/2/2009 9:11:46 AM (3357 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/2/2009 8:34:15 PM (3194 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/3/2009 7:10:57 AM (3068 views)

What is considered slow pay? - no name/MI
1/30/2009 12:50:38 PM (3067 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:59:33 PM (3166 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 1:33:34 PM (3325 views)

Probate Question - Helene /GA
1/29/2009 11:50:27 PM (2957 views)
Re: Probate Question - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 6:52:39 AM (3286 views)
Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 9:28:41 AM (3349 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:01:35 AM (3092 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 10:25:15 AM (2962 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:49:36 AM (3018 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Helene /GA
1/30/2009 10:38:14 PM (3061 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/31/2009 8:27:20 AM (3074 views)

Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 10:53:59 PM (4637 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 11:22:02 PM (3347 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 11:58:37 PM (3172 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 8:07:42 AM (3341 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:15:04 AM (3355 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:16:02 AM (3244 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Alix Ott/MI
2/2/2009 2:10:27 PM (3049 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 8:46:02 AM (3217 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:55:40 PM (3072 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - michael quinn/NY
2/1/2009 1:09:50 AM (3032 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/1/2009 6:01:27 AM (3154 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - WAYNE QUICK/NC
2/2/2009 6:16:26 PM (3052 views)


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