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[-] Remove Disclaimer ??? - Glenda Hodge/TN (49 replies)
12/17/2008 6:47:39 PM (4214 views)
Hold Your Ground - Scott Perry/PA
12/17/2008 11:21:13 PM (4978 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/18/2008 9:52:15 AM (5003 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - MW/IL
12/18/2008 11:51:21 AM (4756 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/19/2008 12:53:07 PM (4643 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 10:27:28 AM (5014 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 11:20:50 AM (4629 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/19/2008 1:08:43 PM (4609 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 8:00:10 PM (4587 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 1:26:48 PM (4636 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 3:17:38 PM (4482 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/20/2008 10:01:23 PM (4331 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/20/2008 10:14:12 PM (4563 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:32:33 PM (4383 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Patricia Turley/MI
12/22/2008 6:34:06 AM (4563 views)
Is that really necessary? - Robert Franco/OH
12/22/2008 9:54:07 AM (4416 views)
A place for disclaimers - David Bloys/TX
12/22/2008 10:01:16 AM (4849 views)
Re: A place for disclaimers - William Pattison /CA
1/5/2009 12:33:33 PM (4442 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Nils Nelson/ME
12/22/2008 9:41:02 AM (4487 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Janis Talbot/SC
12/22/2008 10:51:09 AM (4499 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/23/2008 3:41:07 PM (4618 views)
Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:08:44 AM (4502 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/24/2008 8:44:35 AM (4353 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/24/2008 12:29:13 PM (4243 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 1:21:10 PM (4268 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/24/2008 1:46:55 PM (4441 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:13:15 PM (4488 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/25/2008 1:27:00 AM (6963 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/26/2008 10:00:55 AM (4231 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:43:45 PM (4439 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/28/2008 1:03:26 AM (4377 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/29/2008 11:36:35 AM (4279 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2008 11:43:18 AM (4303 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 8:56:23 AM (4201 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/24/2008 12:51:48 PM (4213 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 1:25:51 PM (4365 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - James "Lin" Toney/MS
12/30/2008 7:49:56 PM (4227 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/31/2008 2:49:09 PM (6414 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - stephen willard/OH
1/6/2009 7:17:22 AM (4227 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/6/2009 9:34:34 AM (4397 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2009 5:02:27 PM (4107 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/7/2009 3:01:26 AM (4392 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2009 12:39:23 PM (4157 views)

You bring up some good points.  It does appear that having E&O insurance makes you a "deep pocket" and may make it more likely that a client will go after you for your mistakes.  But, if you have assets (i.e., a home) you could still be sued and, without E&O, you could lose them.  We really haven't seen it happen much in the past, but with the huge losses the underwriters are facing they could start looking to collect from the abstractors who cause their losses.  The fact that the client has E&O insurance does not prevent you from getting sued.  When their E&O carrier pays the claim, they acquire subrogation rights against the abstractor and they could sue to recover their payout.  I'm surprised we haven't seen more of this, but I predict we will see it see it happen soon.

The article I posted (back in November 2004) does give the impression that the abstractor "might" have successfully limited his liability had he NOT had E&O.  (see Searcher Owes Insurer for Missed Lien) But, that is unclear.  His E&O policy was one factor the court looked at to determine whether the parties actually intended to make the disclaimer a part of their contract.  Whether or not the disclaimers are effective is not really known.  I suppose it depends a great deal on state laws.  It may work in some jurisdictions and not others.

There aren't a lot of cases out there.  First, if the abstractor carries E&O insurance the cases are often settled and you don't hear about them.  Second, if the abstractor doesn't carry E&O he may not have sufficient resources to pay a judgment and the suit is not worth pursuing.  I think the fact that many clients now require E&O, and some clients are told by their E&O carriers that they have to require that their abstractors carry E&O, shows that they are considering pursuing recourse against the abstractors.  If they start doing this, I would hate to be caught in a claims situation without coverage.  Maybe the disclaimer will hold up in court... maybe it won't.  That is not a chance I would want to take.

Ultimately, I believe that the abstractors should be liable for the losses they cause.  Perhaps if there were more suits against the abstractors, we would see many of the "fly-by-night" companies disappear.  If they had E&O, they wouldn't be able to afford it after a couple of claims, and if they didn't have it, they would not be able to afford the first claim they are hit with. 

Like I said, I know there is completely different mindset regarding E&O in New York.  I have spoken to several New York abstractors who told me that nobody carries the coverage.  We have never had to file a claim on our policy, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if we didn't have it.  Anyone can make a mistake and you never know when a client will decide to make an example of somebody.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/9/2009 11:50:36 PM (4143 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/10/2009 11:47:01 AM (4215 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
1/10/2009 1:52:55 PM (6312 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
1/10/2009 5:35:24 PM (4387 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/11/2009 1:58:20 AM (4064 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/6/2009 4:57:07 PM (3943 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2009 5:14:49 PM (4010 views)

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