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A "thank you & happy new year" to Robert! - Alix Ott/MI
12/29/2008 11:25:10 AM (3654 views)
Re: A "thank you & happy new year" to Robert! - Dan Zook/NY
12/29/2008 11:45:52 AM (5089 views)
Re: A "thank you & happy new year" to Robert! - Glenda Hodge/TN
12/29/2008 11:23:45 PM (5024 views)
Re: A "thank you & happy new year" to Robert! - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2008 2:44:03 PM (4970 views)
Re: A "thank you & happy new year" to Robert! - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 9:32:50 AM (4967 views)

Career Dilemma - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2008 9:34:12 AM (4149 views)
Re: Career Dilemma - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/29/2008 5:14:31 PM (5372 views)
Re: Career Dilemma - Robert Franco/OH
12/30/2008 9:39:47 AM (5151 views)
Re: Career Dilemma - Anthony Joseph/TX
12/30/2008 11:10:19 AM (5261 views)

Transtar National Title Beware - James "Lin" Toney/MS
12/24/2008 3:57:44 PM (5689 views)
Re: Transtar National Title Beware - Kyle Steele/FL
12/29/2008 10:56:53 AM (5860 views)
Re: Transtar National Title Beware - James "Lin" Toney/MS
12/29/2008 9:53:26 PM (11140 views)
Re: Transtar National Title Beware - Kyle Steele/FL
1/5/2009 11:04:06 AM (5598 views)
Re: Transtar National Title Beware - James "Lin" Toney/MS
1/5/2009 8:18:02 PM (5698 views)
Re: Transtar National Title Beware - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 9:12:52 AM (5610 views)

Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - Rebecca Fair/FL
12/23/2008 12:35:51 PM (6559 views)
Whoops...Sorry about the double post. n/m - Rebecca Fair/FL
12/23/2008 2:00:22 PM (5468 views)
Re: Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - Kurt deVries/FL
12/26/2008 10:52:39 AM (5468 views)
Re: Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/26/2008 1:28:15 PM (5886 views)
Re: Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - William Pattison /CA
1/12/2009 12:49:15 PM (5824 views)

Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - Rebecca Fair/FL
12/23/2008 12:34:40 PM (7287 views)
Re: Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - Patrick Scott/IL
12/23/2008 11:05:39 PM (5449 views)




Field Notes - Ellen Maher/MI
12/23/2008 10:34:35 AM (3912 views)
Re: Field Notes - Robert Franco/OH
12/23/2008 10:45:41 AM (5445 views)
Re: Field Notes - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/23/2008 12:27:43 PM (5569 views)
Re: Field Notes - David Keeling/TX
12/29/2008 12:35:08 PM (5450 views)
Re: Field Notes - William Pattison /CA
12/29/2008 1:48:56 PM (5428 views)
Re: Field Notes - Ray Young/GA
1/30/2009 1:00:19 PM (4964 views)

Richard Bolen - Janis Talbot/SC
12/22/2008 10:47:07 AM (4060 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/22/2008 12:11:39 PM (7983 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Edward Huguenin/SC
12/22/2008 4:05:28 PM (5526 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/23/2008 12:42:43 PM (5550 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Janis Talbot/SC
12/26/2008 9:16:57 PM (5428 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Janis Talbot/SC
12/26/2008 9:08:58 PM (5506 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Edward Huguenin/SC
12/27/2008 9:29:25 AM (5387 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 9:07:49 AM (5338 views)

GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Joan Howland/CT
12/22/2008 10:00:45 AM (4611 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Nils Nelson/ME
12/22/2008 11:23:15 AM (5734 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - george Hubka/MI
1/24/2009 10:48:31 PM (5503 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/26/2009 1:13:53 PM (5247 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Joan Howland/CT
1/26/2009 5:48:11 PM (5077 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/27/2009 3:33:41 PM (5235 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Joan Howland/CT
1/26/2009 5:49:37 PM (5234 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Donna Stovall/NY
12/29/2008 12:57:08 PM (5364 views)

Give this Christmas gift to your good clients/vendors! - Slade Smith/OH
12/22/2008 7:22:48 AM (4022 views)
Re: Give this Christmas gift to your good clients/vendors! - Dan Zook/NY
12/22/2008 8:48:42 AM (5526 views)
This might take some time ... - Dan Zook/NY
12/22/2008 9:11:48 AM (5612 views)
Re: This might take some time ... - Slade Smith/OH
12/22/2008 5:27:17 PM (5223 views)

New York Title Abstract - Ron McPherson/IA
12/21/2008 8:26:40 PM (4005 views)
Re: New York Title Abstract - Jennifer Coffey/VA
12/23/2008 1:09:32 AM (5479 views)
Re: New York Title Abstract - Ron McPherson/IA
12/23/2008 8:56:06 PM (5492 views)
Re: New York Title Abstract - Julia Walker/KS
1/5/2009 12:29:34 PM (5432 views)
Re: New York Title Abstract - Denise Lippolis /NY
2/28/2009 12:27:39 PM (5258 views)

REFERENCES ON ABG - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
12/18/2008 7:10:05 PM (4053 views)
Re: REFERENCES ON ABG - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/18/2008 8:23:55 PM (5402 views)
Re: REFERENCES ON ABG - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
12/19/2008 10:48:57 AM (5464 views)
Re: REFERENCES ON ABG - Jeffrey Pettit/PA
4/21/2010 10:06:22 AM (5050 views)

Lipstick on a Pig? REVISED POSTING - . APS/NY
12/18/2008 4:04:54 PM (4086 views)
Re: Lipstick on a Pig? REVISED POSTING - Arthur Rosenbaum/PA
12/30/2008 9:55:54 AM (5343 views)

Legacy Title (Indiana) - Barbara Bennett/IN
12/17/2008 7:13:52 PM (4185 views)
Re: Legacy Title (Indiana) - Scott Joest/IN
12/22/2008 10:37:17 AM (5413 views)

Remove Disclaimer ??? - Glenda Hodge/TN
12/17/2008 6:47:39 PM (4397 views)
Hold Your Ground - Scott Perry/PA
12/17/2008 11:21:13 PM (5588 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/18/2008 9:52:15 AM (5596 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - MW/IL
12/18/2008 11:51:21 AM (5357 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/19/2008 12:53:07 PM (5215 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 10:27:28 AM (5591 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 11:20:50 AM (5212 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/19/2008 1:08:43 PM (5185 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 8:00:10 PM (5167 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 1:26:48 PM (5248 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 3:17:38 PM (5094 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/20/2008 10:01:23 PM (4953 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/20/2008 10:14:12 PM (5134 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:32:33 PM (4968 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Patricia Turley/MI
12/22/2008 6:34:06 AM (5153 views)
Is that really necessary? - Robert Franco/OH
12/22/2008 9:54:07 AM (5014 views)
A place for disclaimers - David Bloys/TX
12/22/2008 10:01:16 AM (5486 views)
Re: A place for disclaimers - William Pattison /CA
1/5/2009 12:33:33 PM (5021 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Nils Nelson/ME
12/22/2008 9:41:02 AM (5092 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Janis Talbot/SC
12/22/2008 10:51:09 AM (5056 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/23/2008 3:41:07 PM (5216 views)
Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:08:44 AM (5088 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/24/2008 8:44:35 AM (4955 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/24/2008 12:29:13 PM (4838 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 1:21:10 PM (4845 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/24/2008 1:46:55 PM (5009 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:13:15 PM (5074 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/25/2008 1:27:00 AM (7624 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/26/2008 10:00:55 AM (4820 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:43:45 PM (5035 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/28/2008 1:03:26 AM (4984 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/29/2008 11:36:35 AM (4844 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2008 11:43:18 AM (4902 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 8:56:23 AM (4797 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/24/2008 12:51:48 PM (4808 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 1:25:51 PM (4946 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - James "Lin" Toney/MS
12/30/2008 7:49:56 PM (4782 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/31/2008 2:49:09 PM (7023 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - stephen willard/OH
1/6/2009 7:17:22 AM (4846 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/6/2009 9:34:34 AM (4953 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2009 5:02:27 PM (4714 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/7/2009 3:01:26 AM (4999 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2009 12:39:23 PM (4735 views)

You bring up some good points.  It does appear that having E&O insurance makes you a "deep pocket" and may make it more likely that a client will go after you for your mistakes.  But, if you have assets (i.e., a home) you could still be sued and, without E&O, you could lose them.  We really haven't seen it happen much in the past, but with the huge losses the underwriters are facing they could start looking to collect from the abstractors who cause their losses.  The fact that the client has E&O insurance does not prevent you from getting sued.  When their E&O carrier pays the claim, they acquire subrogation rights against the abstractor and they could sue to recover their payout.  I'm surprised we haven't seen more of this, but I predict we will see it see it happen soon.

The article I posted (back in November 2004) does give the impression that the abstractor "might" have successfully limited his liability had he NOT had E&O.  (see Searcher Owes Insurer for Missed Lien) But, that is unclear.  His E&O policy was one factor the court looked at to determine whether the parties actually intended to make the disclaimer a part of their contract.  Whether or not the disclaimers are effective is not really known.  I suppose it depends a great deal on state laws.  It may work in some jurisdictions and not others.

There aren't a lot of cases out there.  First, if the abstractor carries E&O insurance the cases are often settled and you don't hear about them.  Second, if the abstractor doesn't carry E&O he may not have sufficient resources to pay a judgment and the suit is not worth pursuing.  I think the fact that many clients now require E&O, and some clients are told by their E&O carriers that they have to require that their abstractors carry E&O, shows that they are considering pursuing recourse against the abstractors.  If they start doing this, I would hate to be caught in a claims situation without coverage.  Maybe the disclaimer will hold up in court... maybe it won't.  That is not a chance I would want to take.

Ultimately, I believe that the abstractors should be liable for the losses they cause.  Perhaps if there were more suits against the abstractors, we would see many of the "fly-by-night" companies disappear.  If they had E&O, they wouldn't be able to afford it after a couple of claims, and if they didn't have it, they would not be able to afford the first claim they are hit with. 

Like I said, I know there is completely different mindset regarding E&O in New York.  I have spoken to several New York abstractors who told me that nobody carries the coverage.  We have never had to file a claim on our policy, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if we didn't have it.  Anyone can make a mistake and you never know when a client will decide to make an example of somebody.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
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Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
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Beware of Richmond Title - Virginia Capps/TN
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