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Can we file liens? - Kurt deVries/FL
10/15/2008 10:09:00 AM (4019 views)
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Pro Title - Barbara Kelley/PA
10/15/2008 8:32:12 AM (4087 views)
Re: Pro Title - Thomas Conrad/PA
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Re: Pro Title - judith fitzgerald/HI
10/19/2008 11:45:51 PM (5801 views)
Re: Pro Title - Kurt deVries/FL
10/22/2008 11:21:49 AM (5534 views)

Oil&Gas-Mineral - Kevin Curtiss/AL
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Re: Oil&Gas-Mineral - Christine Sheeler/PA
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Re: Oil&Gas-Mineral - Alix Ott/MI
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Freedom Search & Settlement, PA - JOSEPH EMERSON/MN
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Re: Freedom Search & Settlement, PA - Edward Huguenin/SC
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Re: Freedom Search & Settlement, PA - Constance Foye/VA
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Ireport contest-vote for us! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2008 2:00:11 PM (5582 views)
Re: Ireport contest-vote for us! - michael quinn/NY
10/21/2008 11:22:42 PM (5461 views)




Examnet - shame on us! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2008 1:55:48 PM (4599 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Robert Franco/OH
10/14/2008 2:28:40 PM (5602 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/14/2008 2:51:13 PM (5730 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Arlene Nelson/NY
10/14/2008 3:19:44 PM (5654 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - shaun dente/OH
10/14/2008 3:56:03 PM (5800 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - shaun dente/OH
10/14/2008 4:03:11 PM (5696 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Robert Franco/OH
10/15/2008 1:23:23 PM (7572 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Shaun Dente/OH
10/15/2008 2:02:39 PM (5527 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/15/2008 2:14:43 PM (5413 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - G L/FL
10/15/2008 2:38:31 PM (5469 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/15/2008 4:09:30 PM (5487 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Robert Franco/OH
10/15/2008 7:02:19 PM (5533 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - . APS/NY
10/15/2008 8:11:50 PM (5376 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Helene /GA
10/15/2008 11:18:45 PM (5329 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Dan Zook/NY
10/16/2008 9:57:49 AM (5405 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Rob  Robinson/PA
10/16/2008 11:21:51 AM (5457 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Dan Zook/NY
10/16/2008 11:35:37 AM (5464 views)
I retract my critique ... - Dan Zook/NY
10/16/2008 12:11:11 PM (5491 views)
Re: I retract my critique ... - Robert Franco/OH
10/16/2008 12:23:58 PM (5442 views)
Re: I retract my critique ... - Dan Zook/NY
10/16/2008 12:48:24 PM (5336 views)
Re: I retract my critique ... - Rob  Robinson/PA
10/16/2008 12:54:17 PM (5404 views)
Re: I retract my critique ... - Dan Zook/NY
10/16/2008 12:58:52 PM (5397 views)
Re: I retract my critique ... - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/16/2008 2:28:25 PM (5450 views)
Open can worms...please let's not - Jay Duncan/MO
10/16/2008 2:42:05 PM (5343 views)
Re: Open can worms...please let's not - Scott Perry/PA
10/16/2008 2:51:35 PM (5387 views)
Last Words - Kurt deVries/FL
10/17/2008 10:47:17 AM (5372 views)
Re: Last Words - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/17/2008 3:18:35 PM (5326 views)
Re: Last Words - Kurt deVries/FL
10/17/2008 5:03:25 PM (5196 views)
Re: Last Words - . APS/NY
10/17/2008 8:00:18 PM (5289 views)
Re: Last Words - Edward Huguenin/SC
10/18/2008 2:36:58 AM (5260 views)
Re: Last Words - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/18/2008 8:06:58 AM (5290 views)
Re: Last Words - Edward Huguenin/SC
10/18/2008 8:51:29 AM (5340 views)
Re: Last Words - Robert Franco/OH
10/18/2008 12:39:33 PM (5140 views)
Re: Last Words - . APS/NY
10/18/2008 1:45:33 PM (5188 views)
Re: Last Words - Edward Huguenin/SC
10/18/2008 9:27:06 PM (5255 views)
Re: Last Words - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/20/2008 4:06:00 PM (5207 views)
Re: Last Words - Michelle/IL
10/20/2008 4:11:29 PM (5240 views)
Re: Last Words - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/20/2008 4:20:46 PM (5202 views)
Re: Last Words - michael quinn/NY
10/21/2008 11:56:59 PM (5176 views)
Re: Last Words - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/22/2008 11:09:17 AM (5129 views)
Re: Last Words - Douglas Gallant/OH
10/20/2008 5:14:03 PM (5102 views)
Re: Open can worms...please let's not - J Nisonger/CA
10/18/2008 11:02:56 PM (5314 views)
Re: Open can worms...please let's not - Jay Duncan/MO
10/19/2008 3:50:54 PM (5329 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2008 4:11:03 PM (5580 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Edward Huguenin/SC
10/14/2008 6:25:37 PM (5400 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - george Hubka/MI
10/14/2008 11:06:23 PM (5238 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Edward Huguenin/SC
10/14/2008 11:47:14 PM (5355 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - shaun dente/OH
10/15/2008 10:04:51 AM (5296 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - . APS/NY
10/15/2008 12:21:11 PM (5159 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - shaun dente/OH
10/15/2008 1:41:44 PM (5169 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Louise Jackson/SC
11/7/2008 9:29:57 AM (4878 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Clanci Nelson/OH
11/7/2008 2:48:24 PM (4883 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Rob  Robinson/PA
10/15/2008 12:36:22 PM (4981 views)
Re: Examnet - shame on us! - Edward Huguenin/SC
10/27/2008 7:40:05 AM (4950 views)

National 1 Source - Joyce/NM
10/14/2008 11:48:56 AM (4196 views)
Re: National 1 Source - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2008 2:03:27 PM (5885 views)
Re: National 1 Source - Joyce/NM
10/14/2008 2:07:17 PM (5932 views)
Re: National 1 Source - JOSEPH EMERSON/MN
10/14/2008 4:11:46 PM (5889 views)
Re: National 1 Source - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
10/20/2008 12:33:01 PM (5755 views)

Collection Agencies - Danielle Nelson/WI
10/10/2008 5:06:18 PM (4131 views)
Re: Collection Agencies - . APS/NY
10/13/2008 9:55:16 PM (5768 views)
Re: Collection Agencies - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2008 5:33:02 AM (5670 views)
Re: Collection Agencies - DIANA NYTKO/CT
10/20/2008 11:14:57 AM (5473 views)

two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Diane Cipa/PA
10/8/2008 8:03:45 PM (4340 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Patrick Scott/IL
10/8/2008 11:02:35 PM (6341 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Rob  Robinson/PA
10/9/2008 5:17:27 PM (6095 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Ellen Maher/MI
10/9/2008 6:14:54 PM (6012 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Jay Duncan/MO
10/9/2008 8:42:09 PM (6127 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Diane Cipa/PA
10/9/2008 10:50:05 PM (6069 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Dan Zook/NY
10/10/2008 9:22:41 AM (6056 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Diane Cipa/PA
10/11/2008 5:15:36 PM (5933 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/10/2008 11:34:02 AM (6031 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Robert Franco/OH
10/10/2008 12:05:36 PM (6162 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Patrick Scott/IL
10/10/2008 12:35:26 PM (6472 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - William Pattison /CA
10/16/2008 6:07:59 PM (5870 views)
Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Diane Cipa/PA
10/16/2008 8:45:36 PM (5717 views)

"The borrower read and signed the document before a notary public. The lender (not the borrower) received the signed instrument and sent it to the title company to be recorded. The escrow officer received the completed papers, sent it to her title plant who reviewed it and sent it to the Recorders Office which approved it based on statutory criteria."

It's important to understand that procedures differ throughout the country. Rob gets what I'm saying because Rob is in PA.

The borrower signed two mortgages on the same day, likely in two different closings - perhaps at the same table, one after another.

It's entirely likely that the legal descriptions - which were on separate description riders prepared by the title agent - may not have even been attached in the mortgage documents at the time of signature. In PA, the title agent sends a certified copy of the mortgage to the lender with the loan package. The title agent prepares the mortgage for recording and takes it to the courthouse, does a final bringdown and records. Very often it's the independent abstractor performing this function for the title agent. There is no escrow officer. PA is not an escrow state. There is no title plant. We have title plants but it's not the same system as you are used to.

This is clearly and simply a case of switched riders.

The abstractor in our situation, in a grantor/grantee type of index, should have noticed the two mortgages, pulled the documents, and noted the inconsistencies.

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Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Diane Cipa/PA
10/11/2008 5:25:01 PM (5933 views)
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Re: two abstract errors, alot of extra work and a consumer who had to wait it out - Rob  Robinson/PA
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