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Just due coming soon - the G is here - dale/LA
9/10/2008 10:25:53 PM (3161 views)

No Pay Companies - Scott Aduddell/MO
9/10/2008 8:45:22 PM (4683 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - . APS/NY
9/10/2008 8:59:07 PM (5203 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/10/2008 9:21:30 PM (5241 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Vikki Moffitt/GA
9/11/2008 2:46:49 PM (5143 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Patrick Tarr/NE
9/15/2008 3:45:32 AM (4823 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Vikki Moffitt/GA
9/15/2008 10:22:45 AM (4842 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Scott Aduddell/MO
9/15/2008 1:10:16 PM (4895 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - michael quinn/NY
9/15/2008 5:18:39 PM (4675 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/16/2008 10:02:29 PM (4717 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Rob  Robinson/PA
9/17/2008 11:56:43 AM (4686 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Patrick Tarr/NE
9/17/2008 8:08:44 PM (4705 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - michael quinn/NY
9/17/2008 9:47:31 PM (4669 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Patrick Tarr/NE
9/18/2008 1:58:18 AM (4630 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - george Hubka/MI
9/19/2008 7:47:56 AM (4573 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - george Hubka/MI
9/16/2008 3:11:44 PM (4657 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - J Nisonger/CA
9/11/2008 7:01:58 PM (4842 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Gary/OH
9/15/2008 8:17:26 AM (4692 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Lynn simon/PA
9/17/2008 12:47:00 AM (4658 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - shori ferrell/MO
9/22/2008 11:53:53 AM (4711 views)
Re: No Pay Companies - Scott Aduddell/MO
10/12/2008 1:22:28 PM (4705 views)

Workmans Comp - . APS/NY
9/10/2008 1:46:52 PM (3317 views)
Re: Workmans Comp - William Pattison /CA
9/29/2008 12:27:09 PM (4551 views)
Re: Workmans Comp - Robert Franco/OH
9/29/2008 1:50:45 PM (7368 views)

It may not be a "mis-classification." Abstractors' clients are attempting to control more and more of the abstractors business, i.e. how they are paid, how much they are paid, how they perform their searches, what they will reimburse for, etc.  The more control they exert over their "independent contractors," the less likely they would be correctly classified as contractors - and, the more likely they will be considered employees. If you classify an employee as an independent contractor and you have no reasonable basis for doing so, you may be held liable for employment taxes for that worker. 

Here is an excerpt from the IRS:

Facts that provide evidence of the degree of control and independence fall into three categories:

  1. Behavioral: Does the company control or have the right to control what the worker does and how the worker does his or her job?
  2. Financial: Are the business aspects of the worker’s job controlled by the payer? (these include things like how worker is paid, whether expenses are reimbursed, who provides tools/supplies, etc.)
  3. Type of Relationship: Are there written contracts or employee type benefits (i.e. pension plan, insurance, vacation pay, etc.)? Will the relationship continue and is the work performed a key aspect of the business?

Businesses must weigh all these factors when determining whether a worker is an employee or independent contractor. Some factors may indicate that the worker is an employee, while other factors indicate that the worker is an independent contractor. There is no “magic” or set number of factors that “makes” the worker an employee or an independent contractor, and no one factor stands alone in making this determination. Also, factors which are relevant in one situation may not be relevant in another.

I think that the way some clients attempt to dictate the terms of the the relationship, they get dangerously close to crossing the line, in which case, they would be forced to treat abstractors like employees.

I agree in most situations, it would be difficult to classify an independent abstractor as an employee.  However, this is something that the clients and the abstractors should be aware of.  Clients need to avoid micromanaging their abstractors and the abstractors need to remain autonomous and not allow their clients to run their businesses.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Workmans Comp - . APS/NY
10/1/2008 9:12:08 PM (4972 views)

The Closing Company of PA - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
9/10/2008 12:42:42 PM (3525 views)

FM and FM under the G-Man - Jay Duncan/MO
9/10/2008 10:55:38 AM (3496 views)
Re: FM and FM under the G-Man - Anita Backlund/MN
9/10/2008 11:57:41 AM (4651 views)
Re: FM and FM under the G-Man - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/10/2008 12:34:57 PM (4554 views)
Re: FM and FM under the G-Man - J Nisonger/CA
9/10/2008 1:56:40 PM (4678 views)
Re: FM and FM under the G-Man - Jay Duncan/MO
9/10/2008 2:55:46 PM (4342 views)
Re: FM and FM under the G-Man - Scott Perry/PA
9/10/2008 4:48:55 PM (4401 views)




OMG - Janis Talbot/SC
9/10/2008 5:31:41 AM (3691 views)
Re: OMG - Anita Backlund/MN
9/10/2008 11:50:23 AM (4588 views)
Re: OMG - Diane Cipa/PA
9/10/2008 3:31:43 PM (4706 views)
Re: OMG - Janis Talbot/SC
9/10/2008 4:19:19 PM (4572 views)
Re: OMG - Patrick Scott/IL
9/10/2008 7:08:37 PM (4584 views)
Re: OMG - William Pattison /CA
9/29/2008 12:41:35 PM (4361 views)

Money owe for search work for Virginia Settlement Group - Teresa Melvin/VA
9/9/2008 3:07:56 PM (3640 views)
Re: Money owe for search work for Virginia Settlement Group - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
9/9/2008 7:04:06 PM (4674 views)
Re: Money owe for search work for Virginia Settlement Group - Teresa Melvin/VA
9/10/2008 2:08:08 PM (4649 views)
Re: Money owe for search work for Virginia Settlement Group - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
9/11/2008 7:53:01 AM (4716 views)
Re: Money owe for search work for Virginia Settlement Group - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2008 10:47:10 AM (4549 views)
Re: Money owe for search work for Virginia Settlement Group - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
9/11/2008 7:58:00 PM (4482 views)
Re: Money owe for search work for Virginia Settlement Group - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
9/17/2008 8:52:46 AM (4512 views)

Direct Settlement Services - DSS - Kurt deVries/FL
9/9/2008 2:21:34 PM (4037 views)
Re: Direct Settlement Services - DSS - Brian  Worthington/OH
9/22/2008 5:39:56 AM (4439 views)

Seeking Info on US Title Solutions - Smitty Strickland/SC
9/8/2008 6:10:40 PM (4233 views)
Re: Seeking Info on US Title Solutions - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
9/8/2008 7:49:15 PM (4858 views)
Re: Seeking Info on US Title Solutions - Patrick/NY
9/9/2008 8:38:04 AM (4799 views)
Re: Seeking Info on US Title Solutions - Smitty Strickland/SC
9/9/2008 3:34:52 PM (4738 views)
Re: Seeking Info on US Title Solutions - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
9/13/2008 10:09:05 PM (4599 views)
Re: Seeking Info on US Title Solutions - Robert Lint/PA
9/15/2008 5:35:24 AM (4608 views)
Re: Seeking Info on US Title Solutions - ilona hodsdon/MA
4/27/2010 3:54:48 PM (4395 views)

Seeking Feedback on a Company - Brad Bradbury/PA
9/8/2008 4:31:38 PM (3060 views)

WHO NOT TO DO WORK FOR - Brian  Worthington/OH
9/8/2008 9:24:07 AM (4058 views)
Re: WHO NOT TO DO WORK FOR - Scott Joest/IN
12/22/2008 10:42:36 AM (4254 views)
Re: WHO NOT TO DO WORK FOR - Josh Lowe/TN
9/30/2010 9:19:54 PM (3998 views)

NACA/ Bruce Marks - KH/NC
9/8/2008 7:48:34 AM (3522 views)

abstract realty, turnersville, nj DOES NOT PaY - KIMBERLY  FALCONE/PA
9/8/2008 5:56:17 AM (3049 views)

Jury Duty Scam - Scott Perry/PA
9/8/2008 12:58:32 AM (4663 views)

At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Jan Forster/NC
9/5/2008 11:47:55 PM (5500 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Glenda Hodge/TN
9/6/2008 12:54:30 AM (4431 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Vikki Moffitt/GA
9/6/2008 11:24:22 AM (4203 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Robert Franco/OH
9/6/2008 11:39:47 AM (4204 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/6/2008 1:45:44 PM (4070 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Scott Perry/PA
9/6/2008 2:09:11 PM (4108 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - michael quinn/NY
9/6/2008 9:36:43 PM (4269 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Jan Forster/NC
9/7/2008 9:15:52 PM (4209 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/10/2008 2:58:44 PM (4142 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Robert Franco/OH
9/10/2008 3:03:25 PM (4010 views)
Re: At last, solution to industry crisis!? - Scott Perry/PA
9/10/2008 4:35:31 PM (3930 views)


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