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I don't even know - Norean Cashwell/GA
7/25/2008 10:40:13 PM (3414 views)
Re: I don't even know - Lynn Hammett/SC
8/6/2008 2:03:05 PM (5366 views)
Re: I don't even know - Dave Pell/GA
8/6/2008 4:38:42 PM (3250 views)

maybe this is old news. someone just e-mailed it to me - I don't know where they got it - Diane Cipa/PA
7/23/2008 1:38:31 PM (4247 views)
Re: maybe this is old news. someone just e-mailed it to me - I don't know where they got it - Jay Duncan/MO
7/23/2008 1:52:09 PM (3582 views)
Great Response Robert!! - David Bloys/TX
7/24/2008 1:40:30 AM (3560 views)
Re: Great Response Robert!! - Scott Perry/PA
7/24/2008 7:48:14 AM (3511 views)
Re: Great Response Robert!! - Robert Franco/OH
7/24/2008 1:11:11 PM (3514 views)
Re: Great Response Robert!! - Diane Cipa/PA
7/28/2008 9:36:58 AM (3360 views)
Re: maybe this is old news. someone just e-mailed it to me - I don't know where they got it - Diane Brewer/SC
7/28/2008 9:38:29 AM (3394 views)

Titlesearch USA, Inc. - . APS/NY
7/23/2008 9:38:01 AM (3874 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA, Inc. - Alix Ott/MI
7/23/2008 12:20:19 PM (3649 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA, Inc. - Robert Franco/OH
7/23/2008 12:25:29 PM (3723 views)

Certified Copies In Delaware - Robert Franco/OH
7/22/2008 1:29:46 PM (5129 views)
Re: Certified Copies In Delaware - george Hubka/MI
7/22/2008 7:14:40 PM (3449 views)
Re: Certified Copies In Delaware - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/22/2008 7:31:59 PM (3501 views)
Re: Certified Copies In Delaware - Robert Franco/OH
7/22/2008 9:48:38 PM (3376 views)

First American Document Solutions - Edward Huguenin/SC
7/21/2008 5:02:49 PM (4960 views)
Re: First American Document Solutions - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/21/2008 10:07:57 PM (4134 views)
Re: First American Document Solutions - Edward Huguenin/SC
7/22/2008 1:53:06 AM (3947 views)
Re: First American Document Solutions - Sandra Morton/KS
7/22/2008 5:15:19 PM (3916 views)
Re: First American Document Solutions - Theresa Ritz/WV
7/28/2008 10:04:34 PM (4183 views)
Re: First American Document Solutions - DebiLyn Carr/SC
7/22/2008 8:53:20 PM (4268 views)
Re: First American Document Solutions - Michael Vernon/AZ
7/28/2008 2:11:42 PM (3881 views)




Liability vs Fees per transaction - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/18/2008 12:46:54 PM (3545 views)
Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - Robert Franco/OH
7/18/2008 1:48:28 PM (3918 views)

Clearly, abstractors have the highest potential for losses in relation to fees charged.  But, that whole system is skewed when you look at it that way.  Realtors probably have the least amount of liability and they have the highest fees of the bunch.  The only fee of those mentioned that bears any relationship to claims is the title insurance premium.  That is because it is the only fee that is specifically for insurance.  All of the other fees are for services performed.

Sellers find it worth the fees to have a Realtor find a qualified buyer and to get them the highest possible price.  Whether they are all worth the 6% commission is certainly debatable.  But, the sellers get to choose that for themselves. 

Surveyors are hired by the lenders, just as abstractors are hired by the title companies.  The fees that surveyors and abstractors charge are not based on the liability they incur.  For the most part, the fees are based on the time it takes to prepare an appraisal or title search, plus operating overhead.  I'm not sure about appraisers, but abstractors are traditionally short sighted when it comes to figuring their overhead.  They assume that if it takes them 2 hours to do a full search and they charge $100, they are making the equivalent of $50/hr.  Obviously, that is oversimplified and extremely inaccurate. However, the point is that abstractors price their services too low and the availability of cheaper services makes it much more difficult for some who would like to charge more to do so.

Abstractor's fees are based on market forces like supply and demand, not liability.  They are caught in a rut because there is too much competition among abstractors.  They do not have a strong lobbying group like the NAR to establish customary fees.  Nobody wants to be the first to declare their fees will be based on the purchase price, or mortgage amount.  The clients would find it much more simple to go to another abstractor who charges a fixed, lower fee and there would be many options available to them.

In short... the low fees are the fault of the abstractors as a group.  For the most part there is no regulatory body (except in a few states that regulate abstractors) that have anything to with establishing the fees.  Nor is there an organization capable of uniting the abstractors into a national fee arrangement. 

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - charles jetter/OH
7/30/2008 7:29:03 AM (3681 views)
Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - Robert Franco/OH
7/30/2008 11:00:17 AM (3684 views)
Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - Rob  Robinson/PA
7/18/2008 4:21:13 PM (3819 views)
Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/18/2008 5:37:27 PM (3856 views)
Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - Rob  Robinson/PA
7/18/2008 5:55:38 PM (3829 views)
Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/18/2008 6:32:30 PM (3868 views)
Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/19/2008 1:16:26 PM (3861 views)
Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/19/2008 1:36:02 PM (3825 views)
Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - David Robertson/VA
7/18/2008 10:04:48 PM (3730 views)
Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - Diane Cipa/PA
7/19/2008 1:47:27 PM (3837 views)
Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/20/2008 3:17:32 PM (3837 views)
Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - Rob  Robinson/PA
7/21/2008 9:16:31 AM (3865 views)
Re: Liability vs Fees per transaction - Diane Cipa/PA
7/21/2008 1:20:17 PM (3714 views)

Stable Regions in The Midst Of Meltdown - David Bloys/TX
7/18/2008 12:27:01 AM (5031 views)
Re: Stable Regions in The Midst Of Meltdown - KELLY ROBERTSON/CA
7/28/2008 10:06:35 AM (3530 views)
Re: Stable Regions in The Midst Of Meltdown - David Bloys/TX
7/28/2008 1:42:14 PM (3872 views)

Title Express, Inc. - South Bend, IN - Jill Kissell/IA
7/17/2008 6:43:41 PM (3577 views)
Re: Title Express, Inc. - South Bend, IN - Joseph Killian/MI
7/23/2008 11:56:04 AM (3630 views)

Residential Title Services - Scott Aduddell/MO
7/16/2008 8:53:14 PM (3683 views)
Re: Residential Title Services - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/17/2008 7:03:25 PM (4070 views)

Non Payment - SYMPLE SOLUTIONS - Michelle Allen/GA
7/16/2008 3:53:14 PM (2962 views)

Nationwide Environmental Title Research - Bill Jones/NJ
7/16/2008 2:39:58 PM (4952 views)
Re: Nationwide Environmental Title Research - Elizabeth Helman/PA
7/16/2008 8:29:49 PM (4644 views)
Re: Nationwide Environmental Title Research - Ferlin Cosgriff/MI
7/16/2008 10:50:32 PM (4406 views)
Re: Nationwide Environmental Title Research - Ron McPherson/IA
7/17/2008 12:56:09 AM (4426 views)
Re: Nationwide Environmental Title Research - Theresa Ritz/WV
7/28/2008 10:06:05 PM (4375 views)
Re: Nationwide Environmental Title Research - Bill Jones/NJ
7/17/2008 6:58:31 AM (4344 views)
Re: Nationwide Environmental Title Research - john rutledge/VA
7/21/2008 11:11:27 AM (4423 views)
Re: Nationwide Environmental Title Research - GA Title Services/GA
7/31/2008 11:45:28 AM (4389 views)

Requesting Contact Information - Tim Prior/CA
7/16/2008 12:13:55 PM (3649 views)
Re: Requesting Contact Information - Edward Huguenin/SC
7/16/2008 12:59:06 PM (4312 views)
Re: Requesting Contact Information - John /FL
7/16/2008 1:01:05 PM (185347 views)
Re: Requesting Contact Information - Tim Prior/CA
7/16/2008 1:38:57 PM (4293 views)
Re: Requesting Contact Information - Becky Cantrall/NC
7/16/2008 2:56:16 PM (4287 views)
Re: Requesting Contact Information - Janis Talbot/SC
7/17/2008 7:20:02 AM (4120 views)

kudos to abstractor - Diane Cipa/PA
7/15/2008 10:38:48 AM (3222 views)

PA - bulk sales certificates - Diane Cipa/PA
7/15/2008 7:03:03 AM (3614 views)
Re: PA - bulk sales certificates-Question? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/16/2008 7:12:12 AM (4369 views)
Re: PA - bulk sales certificates-Question? - Diane Cipa/PA
7/16/2008 9:45:35 AM (7927 views)
Re: PA - bulk sales certificates-Question? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/16/2008 10:35:13 AM (4388 views)

Questionnaire from Archer Land Title - Kristi Lee/NE
7/14/2008 1:30:57 PM (3891 views)
Re: Questionnaire from Archer Land Title - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/14/2008 1:44:15 PM (4842 views)
Re: Questionnaire from Archer Land Title - Robert Franco/OH
7/14/2008 1:58:24 PM (4808 views)
Re: Questionnaire from Archer Land Title - Dan Zook/NY
7/14/2008 2:36:44 PM (4950 views)
Re: Questionnaire from Archer Land Title - Rob  Robinson/PA
7/14/2008 2:47:45 PM (4614 views)
Re: Questionnaire from Archer Land Title - Kristi Lee/NE
7/15/2008 7:32:38 PM (4755 views)
Re: Questionnaire from Archer Land Title - catherine yant/OH
7/14/2008 3:00:19 PM (4815 views)
Re: Questionnaire from Archer Land Title - Scott Perry/PA
7/14/2008 4:05:30 PM (4652 views)
Re: Questionnaire from Archer Land Title - Ron McPherson/IA
7/14/2008 5:43:10 PM (4635 views)
Re: Questionnaire from Archer Land Title - Rob  Robinson/PA
7/14/2008 6:25:47 PM (4618 views)
Re: Questionnaire from Archer Land Title - Ron McPherson/IA
7/15/2008 2:12:39 AM (4576 views)
Re: No one going to provide the ?aire - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/15/2008 4:34:40 PM (4651 views)
Re: No one going to provide the ?aire - Kristi Lee/NE
7/15/2008 7:08:12 PM (4631 views)
Re:I finally received a copy- Thanks - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/15/2008 8:39:26 PM (4629 views)
Re: Questionnaire from Archer Land Title - Melinda Barcum, J.D./AL
7/31/2008 8:26:40 PM (4325 views)


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