Register
Log In
Forget your Password?

Home
Directory
Bulletins
Forums
Blogs
Articles
Links
Classifieds
About Us
Contact Us
Advertise
FAQ
Privacy Policy


Discussion
<< get older messagesget newer messages >>
to post a message: login - or - register | search messages | hide all replies



Grand Info Inc - Joanie Hahr/VT
5/19/2008 10:17:34 AM (4073 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/19/2008 10:22:21 PM (3624 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Laura Darby/OH
5/20/2008 9:27:12 AM (3542 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Virginia Capps/TN
5/20/2008 6:22:17 PM (3470 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/21/2008 5:54:07 PM (6345 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
5/21/2008 11:59:20 PM (3413 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/22/2008 12:39:10 PM (3279 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
5/22/2008 11:51:15 PM (3308 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - . APS/NY
5/23/2008 6:01:44 AM (3409 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/31/2008 4:39:05 PM (3192 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2008 8:32:54 PM (3131 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/1/2008 7:13:40 AM (3090 views)
Grand Info, etc. - Dave Pell/GA
6/1/2008 4:57:59 PM (3145 views)

I don't post frequently, but I have seen the same broken record of late-paying companies giving excuses about 60 - 90 day payments. While I am posting this under the current thread, the same applies to all the same excuses that have come before, and all that will come after. I do not mean to call out "Robb Grandon" specifically, because there are many others with similar philosophies.

He may be a nice guy with good intentions, but the reality is that "Pay you when we get paid" and "60 - 90 days payment" are both unprofessional ways to do business with abstractor-vendors. Period.

Businesses which handle their payments to abstractor this way, do not use this same policy with other vendors. Phone bills, utility bills, taxes, payroll, etc., are paid promptly. If allowed to go even 60 days, the phones would be cut off, the employees would leave, and it would be dark inside.

An abstractor-vendor is no different than any other vendor. They provided a service, which is due payment. It is not contigent upon payment from any other 3rd party.

Very often, the justification for this payment practice comes in the form of. "...that's the way the business is....."

The real reason for this practice is often that the company is undercapitalized. Operating on a shoestring budget requires that the company wait to get paid before they can afford to pay their vendors. An abstractor is well advised to avoid this type of customer, as they are only one bad week away from being insolvent. The right way to run a company is to have sufficient funds available to handle everyday expenses. You can call it "excess working capital", "operating fund", or any other proper name your accountant likes to use. Really it is simply "enough cash to properly run a business".

Sometimes the end-user company pays late. Sometimes business is slow. Before getting into an industry with this business enviroment, make sure you have the cash to handle this. Otherwise, it is best not to try and get into the business, because as it has been said: "...that's the way the business is.....". Putting this risk and financial liability on your abstractor-vendors is both unprofessional and unfair.

The only other reason a company does this is to float their cash on the backs of vendors. In either case, taking on an abstractor client like these is risky for the abstractor.

When a company that gives reasons such as...

  • "...nothing they could do, this is our accounting policy....."
  • "......Like you I do not make the rules....."

They are saying they have no control over their ability to pay. My question to them would be why do you not have control over your accounting department? Don't they work for you? Just tell them to write the check. There is no "policy" you can't change if you are the boss.

There is no "Rule" that says you can't pay your abstractor immediately. (Except the rule that the bank has that a check will not clear without a sufficient balance.) You either have the money or you don't.

If they cannot control their own internal accounting department, then what hope do they have to collect on their accounts receivable from outside customers? Maybe this is why their abstractors have to wait 90+ days to get paid.

Saying that all your bills are 100% paid up through February is nothing to brag about. That is something worth embarassment. Personal accounts such as mortgage payments would be considered seriously delinquent or in default if paid that late. And business debts, ESPECIALLY TO VALUED INDUSTRY PEERS, should be considered no less important.

The bottom line is that any payment beyond 30 days is late. (Even 30 days is already an extension of free financing to the customer!) Any description of why it is late is simply an excuse. Abstractors, don't fall for it.

to post a reply: login - or - register


Re: Grand Info, etc. - Robert Franco/OH
6/1/2008 6:08:14 PM (3137 views)
Re: Grand Info, etc. - Scott Perry/PA
6/1/2008 6:58:07 PM (3202 views)
Re: Grand Info, etc. - Vikki Moffitt/GA
6/1/2008 7:33:23 PM (3425 views)
Re: Grand Info, etc. - michael quinn/NY
6/2/2008 12:45:10 AM (2993 views)
Re: Grand Info, etc. - michael quinn/NY
6/2/2008 12:45:15 AM (3076 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/23/2008 7:06:17 AM (3572 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - J Nisonger/CA
5/25/2008 1:29:02 PM (3431 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - george Hubka/MI
5/26/2008 8:07:53 PM (3249 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Diane O'Neill/MI
5/27/2008 9:21:05 AM (3140 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - michael quinn/NY
5/27/2008 12:04:39 AM (3324 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/31/2008 4:46:36 PM (3100 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2008 8:38:23 PM (3849 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/31/2008 9:32:29 PM (3058 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
5/27/2008 6:56:59 AM (3289 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Diane O'Neill/MI
5/27/2008 9:07:19 AM (3345 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
6/1/2008 8:06:33 PM (3047 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Rob  Robinson/PA
6/9/2008 11:12:54 PM (3041 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
6/10/2008 12:03:22 AM (3143 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Rob  Robinson/PA
6/10/2008 2:21:52 AM (3024 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - michael quinn/NY
6/10/2008 3:08:32 AM (3114 views)
One more thing to add... - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2008 10:35:40 AM (3148 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - michael quinn/NY
6/10/2008 2:04:12 AM (3203 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/10/2008 7:53:22 AM (3030 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2008 10:42:36 AM (2984 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - michael quinn/NY
6/10/2008 11:37:16 PM (3123 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
6/11/2008 4:53:19 PM (3148 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/31/2008 4:51:49 PM (2967 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
6/1/2008 7:57:56 PM (3094 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - george Hubka/MI
6/1/2008 10:57:20 PM (2892 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - george Hubka/MI
6/1/2008 10:52:34 PM (2931 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
6/3/2008 1:41:49 PM (3141 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - michael quinn/NY
6/3/2008 6:32:57 PM (2999 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Joanie Hahr/VT
6/24/2008 6:54:25 PM (2990 views)

Pilot Search Company - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/19/2008 9:08:34 AM (3828 views)
Re: Pilot Search Company - Chuck Y/NY
5/19/2008 1:38:31 PM (3827 views)
Re: Pilot Search Company - george Hubka/MI
5/19/2008 8:56:38 PM (3495 views)
Re: Pilot Search Company - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/20/2008 12:11:48 PM (3584 views)
Re: Pilot Search Company - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/20/2008 12:09:43 PM (3484 views)
Re: Pilot Search Company - Mark Forbes/NY
8/14/2008 2:58:11 PM (2871 views)

HUD LISTINGS - Matt Pardue/KY
5/15/2008 5:23:43 PM (3660 views)
Re: HUD LISTINGS - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/16/2008 10:20:39 AM (6258 views)
Re: HUD LISTINGS - Matt Pardue/KY
5/17/2008 9:22:52 PM (3387 views)

ASA Real Estate Services - Glenda Hodge/TN
5/15/2008 12:49:28 PM (4065 views)
ASA Real Estate Services, Newington CT - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
5/16/2008 8:06:14 AM (4123 views)
Re: ASA Real Estate Services, Newington CT - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2008 8:51:40 AM (3958 views)
Re: ASA Real Estate Services, Newington CT - Glenda Hodge/TN
5/16/2008 11:40:32 AM (4429 views)
Try this to find ASA Real Estate Services - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
5/16/2008 1:35:14 PM (4310 views)
Re: ASA Real Estate Services - Joanie Hahr/VT
5/19/2008 10:08:56 AM (3750 views)

$50 Million Title Claim - Jeanine Johnson/FL
5/14/2008 6:11:27 PM (3366 views)




Gasoline Prices - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/14/2008 6:55:50 AM (3648 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Scott Perry/PA
5/14/2008 7:25:23 AM (3837 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/14/2008 7:59:17 AM (3848 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Scott Perry/PA
5/14/2008 11:31:53 AM (3793 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/14/2008 11:56:40 AM (3759 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Kurt deVries/FL
5/14/2008 1:12:02 PM (3712 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/14/2008 1:22:12 PM (3724 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Kurt deVries/FL
5/14/2008 1:29:45 PM (3721 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/14/2008 1:33:18 PM (3774 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - J Nisonger/CA
5/27/2008 7:33:18 PM (3621 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Scott Perry/PA
5/27/2008 10:14:49 PM (6014 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - J Nisonger/CA
5/30/2008 5:33:15 PM (3747 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Scott Perry/PA
5/14/2008 4:43:09 PM (6523 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Virginia Capps/TN
5/14/2008 4:52:45 PM (3797 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Scott Perry/PA
5/14/2008 4:58:57 PM (3840 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/27/2008 10:18:42 AM (3557 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Scott Perry/PA
5/27/2008 2:07:27 PM (3493 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/27/2008 3:58:55 PM (3550 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/27/2008 4:18:37 PM (3525 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/27/2008 4:28:55 PM (3464 views)
Meanwhile, back at the ranch... - Scott Perry/PA
5/27/2008 2:30:44 PM (3779 views)
Re: Meanwhile, back at the ranch... - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/27/2008 3:00:17 PM (3502 views)
Re: Meanwhile, back at the ranch... - Scott Perry/PA
5/27/2008 10:21:09 PM (3570 views)
Re: Meanwhile, back at the ranch... - J Nisonger/CA
5/30/2008 5:36:37 PM (3515 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/30/2008 8:03:07 AM (3464 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Scott Perry/PA
5/30/2008 5:06:23 PM (3468 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/30/2008 5:26:01 PM (3723 views)

Advantage Title - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
5/13/2008 6:10:33 PM (3387 views)

Infinity International Processing Services - Lynn Hammett/SC
5/13/2008 11:54:42 AM (4630 views)
Re: Infinity International Processing Services - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2008 1:58:05 PM (4471 views)
Re: Infinity International Processing Services - Margaret Tobin/NC
5/14/2008 1:41:02 PM (4094 views)
Re: Infinity International Processing Services - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/14/2008 1:47:33 PM (4049 views)
Re: Infinity International Processing Services - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/14/2008 2:49:34 PM (4156 views)
Re: Infinity International Processing Services - Phil McLean/CO
5/15/2008 11:42:00 AM (4221 views)
DARN Infinity International Processing Services - J Nisonger/CA
5/20/2008 9:07:58 PM (3995 views)
Re: DARN Infinity International Processing Services - David Bloys/TX
5/20/2008 10:01:27 PM (3952 views)
Re: DARN Infinity International Processing Services - Edward Huguenin/SC
5/21/2008 3:08:34 AM (3932 views)
Re: DARN Infinity International Processing Services - J Nisonger/CA
5/25/2008 2:38:39 PM (3833 views)
Re: DARN Infinity International Processing Services - Edward Huguenin/SC
5/25/2008 3:10:27 PM (7126 views)
Re: DARN Infinity International Processing Services - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/21/2008 6:37:06 AM (3894 views)
Re: DARN Infinity International Processing Services - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/21/2008 3:51:55 PM (3894 views)
Re: DARN Infinity International Processing Services - Brandon/MI
6/19/2008 2:03:24 PM (3617 views)

HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - Lynn Hammett/SC
5/13/2008 11:12:00 AM (3515 views)
Re: HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - Janis Talbot/SC
5/20/2008 10:06:51 PM (3784 views)
Re: HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - Patrick Scott/IL
5/21/2008 1:09:23 AM (3650 views)
Re: HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - Robert Franco/OH
5/21/2008 2:27:26 AM (3677 views)
Re: HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - Patrick Scott/IL
5/21/2008 3:13:53 AM (3636 views)
Re: HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/21/2008 9:44:56 AM (3578 views)
Re: HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/21/2008 10:06:17 AM (3503 views)
Re: HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - Patrick Scott/IL
5/23/2008 12:27:51 AM (3652 views)

If you have any errors on the Forums today... - Slade Smith/OH
5/13/2008 8:12:23 AM (2989 views)

United Lenders Services - Cheryl O/VA
5/12/2008 8:23:00 PM (3188 views)

Slowdown - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
5/12/2008 6:15:41 PM (3816 views)
Re: Slowdown - Ron McPherson/IA
5/12/2008 10:36:37 PM (4201 views)
Re: Slowdown - J Nisonger/CA
5/13/2008 1:00:21 AM (4221 views)
Re: Slowdown - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/13/2008 6:35:31 AM (4095 views)
Re: Slowdown - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/13/2008 10:44:12 AM (4242 views)
Re: Slowdown - Michelle/IL
5/13/2008 1:25:36 PM (4162 views)

National Equity Services - Robert Franco/OH
5/12/2008 3:03:10 PM (3791 views)
Re: National Equity Services - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/12/2008 3:55:15 PM (4055 views)
Re: National Equity Services - Jim Lissemore/NJ
5/19/2008 8:33:42 AM (3861 views)

Equifax - Wendi See/SC
5/12/2008 1:19:26 PM (3632 views)
Re: Equifax - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/12/2008 5:06:30 PM (4063 views)
Re: Equifax - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
5/13/2008 7:36:26 PM (4023 views)
Re: Equifax - Carla Curry/KY
5/13/2008 10:24:27 PM (3937 views)

4 Day Work Week? - Carla Curry/KY
5/10/2008 8:00:38 PM (3882 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
5/11/2008 12:33:59 PM (4229 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - Michaela Urban/OH
5/12/2008 7:42:49 AM (4041 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
5/12/2008 6:12:55 PM (3980 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - Michaela Urban/OH
5/15/2008 12:10:01 PM (4119 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - David Bloys/TX
5/15/2008 7:11:46 PM (4086 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - Scott Perry/PA
5/15/2008 11:53:42 PM (4017 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - David Bloys/TX
5/16/2008 9:11:18 AM (3940 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - William Pattison /CA
6/19/2008 2:19:40 PM (3698 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/20/2008 9:29:23 AM (3794 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week?..in VA - Loretta Reed/MD
6/21/2008 7:06:39 PM (3752 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - William Pattison /CA
7/7/2008 10:35:29 AM (3566 views)


<< get older messagesget newer messages >>

DISCLAIMER: These Message Forums are un-moderated and Source of Title does not endorse the content of any of the posts. Source of Title discourages libelous comments and you, as the sole creator of the content, take full responsibility for your remarks.
Directory

The Source of Title Business directory has 8956 listed companies.

Leave feedback on a company:
SOT ID #:  learn more...
DRN Title Search
Blogs

Read other users' blogs-- or start your own!

Most Recent Blog Posts:

Interest Accruing on Student Loan Debt & the Current Economy
Marissa Berends's Blog
2025/07/31
0 comments

Stepping Away Without Falling Behind: 7 Tips for When You’re Out
Denise Williams's Blog
2025/07/28
0 comments

HACKED: Cyberattacks and the County Recorder’s Office
Marissa Berends's Blog
2025/07/28
0 comments

Articles

Source of Title articles help to keep you informed on the state of the title industry.

NAR Secures Win for Veterans as VA Home Loan Reform Act Becomes Law
Yesterday, President Trump signed H.R. 1815, the VA Home Loan Reform Act, into law, which aims to make permanent the VA'...
NAR Pending Home Sales Report Shows 0.8% Decrease in June
"The data shows a continuation of small declines in contract signings despite inventory in the market increasing. Pendin...
FOMC Commentary from MBA's Mike Fratantoni
“The news from today’s FOMC meeting was that two governors, Bowman and Waller, dissented from the decision t...
Mortgage Applications Decrease in Latest MBA Weekly Survey
“Mortgage applications fell to their lowest level since May, with both purchase and refinance activity declining o...
MBA Home Equity Study Shows Increase in Originations, Debt Outstanding in 2024
“With close to $35 trillion of homeowner equity in residential real estate and many homeowners locked into low-rat...

Search Articles:
browse...

Classifieds

Buy, sell, or trade! Browse the ads or post your own!

© 2020, Source of Title.