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P & W title - Theresa Ritz/WV
3/31/2008 2:18:13 PM (4407 views)
Re: P & W title - Wendi See/SC
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Re: P & W title - martha campbell/VA
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Non Paying Companies - Arme Hill/AL
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Re: Non Paying Companies - thomas reale/NY
4/8/2008 10:13:58 AM (7223 views)

Accurate Group - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Re: Accurate Group - Steve Black/TX
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Even more lack of privacy... - J Nisonger/CA
3/27/2008 5:35:27 PM (5740 views)
Re: Even more lack of privacy... - Jay Duncan/MO
3/27/2008 5:50:26 PM (7618 views)
Re: Even more lack of privacy... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Even more lack of privacy... - Jay Duncan/MO
3/28/2008 8:40:34 AM (7602 views)
Re: Even more lack of privacy... - Robert Franco/OH
3/28/2008 9:25:47 AM (7534 views)
Re: Even more lack of privacy... - Jay Duncan/MO
3/28/2008 11:26:24 AM (7714 views)
Re: Even more lack of privacy... - J Nisonger/CA
3/30/2008 4:45:27 AM (7520 views)
Re: Even more lack of privacy... - M Washington/DE
4/7/2008 9:06:40 PM (7286 views)

Closing Question... - Robert Franco/OH
3/27/2008 3:29:50 PM (4116 views)
Re: Closing Question... - Scott Perry/PA
3/27/2008 3:38:33 PM (7735 views)
Re: Closing Question... - george Hubka/MI
3/27/2008 8:59:56 PM (7465 views)
Re: Closing Question... - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/28/2008 8:19:53 AM (7536 views)
Re: Closing Question... - Robert Franco/OH
3/28/2008 9:35:29 AM (7570 views)
Re: Closing Question... - Janice /OH
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Re: Closing Question... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Closing Question... - Janice/OH
3/29/2008 9:36:27 AM (7466 views)
Re: Closing Question... - Robert Franco/OH
3/30/2008 10:33:46 PM (7251 views)
Re: Closing Question... - george Hubka/MI
3/29/2008 10:47:35 PM (7328 views)
Re: Closing Question... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Closing Question... - Victoria Moate/NJ
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Re: Closing Question... - Diane Brewer/SC
4/7/2008 1:26:35 PM (7291 views)




The $10,000 Cowboy Hat and the Constitution - David Bloys/TX
3/26/2008 8:36:36 PM (5695 views)

charge for viewing online index ??? - george Hubka/MI
3/25/2008 10:02:00 PM (4381 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
3/25/2008 10:40:57 PM (7181 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - george Hubka/MI
3/25/2008 11:07:17 PM (7256 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
3/26/2008 12:34:34 AM (7098 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Scott Perry/PA
3/26/2008 12:43:24 AM (7057 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Rob  Robinson/PA
3/26/2008 11:04:02 AM (6973 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Robert Franco/OH
3/26/2008 11:58:46 AM (9423 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Rob  Robinson/PA
3/27/2008 10:22:30 AM (9270 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Scott Perry/PA
3/27/2008 12:09:09 PM (7001 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - David Bloys/TX
3/27/2008 12:41:29 PM (6884 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
3/26/2008 12:19:29 PM (6894 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Robert Franco/OH
3/26/2008 12:43:57 PM (7003 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
3/26/2008 3:27:07 PM (6910 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - David Bloys/TX
3/26/2008 7:30:26 PM (9215 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
3/26/2008 10:00:13 PM (7039 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - David Bloys/TX
3/26/2008 11:37:15 PM (6971 views)
So I take it you won't be telling your clients that your sources are not official, authenticated, or correct? When you are sued because your online source was not official will you tell your E&O carrier?

By the way, the county recorders and clerks are responsible for the accuracy of the records they keep. Most do a great job in upholding their feduciary duties to the taxpayers. This falls apart entirely when the clerk's job is turned over to IT vendors and this is why you see the disclaimers on the web sites and not posted on the courthouse walls.

As to your contention that the VA legislature has "dealt" with the Virginia Watchdog for doing what the Counties were doing, this "Stop BJ Ostergren Law" is not likely to withstand challenges in Federal court. This issue has already been decided publishing online what the counties were publishing online don't be so sure.

The fact is this law targeted the messenger instead of the agencies who were responsible. It violates Ostergren's First and Fourteenth amendment rights. Here's what the Virginia ACLU which is prepared to fight this on the behalf of Ostergren had to say "but the government can’t put the numbers online and then turn around prevent the public from using those numbers.”

“This is a grossly misplaced bill that attempts to mask the fact that Virginia’s lawmakers have failed to prevent Social Security Numbers from being placed online in the first place,” added Willis. “If Social Security Numbers were removed from public records when they are placed online, there would be no need for this bill.”

Similar cases have already been tried in Federal Court and the results are consistently the same. See The Florida Star v. B.J.F., 491 U.S. 524 (1989) and In a case more directly on point, a district court struck down a statute that prohibited the publication of the addresses, telephone numbers, and Social Security Numbers of law enforcement officers.  See Sheehan v. Gregoire, 272 F.Supp.2d 1135 (W.D. Wash. 2003).  The plaintiff in Sheehan had obtained such information from public records and posted it on a website advocating police accountability.  Relying on Florida Star, the court held that the statute was unconstitutionally overbroad.

Your legislature has done nothing to protect the citizens of Virginia and by this bill shown their intent is to shoot the messenger and allow the government to do even more harm to the people who trusted them  -- the Virginia public.

According to your posts, you are no longer a member of the Virginia public, only a subscriber to remote access of records that belong to the taxpayers of Virginia and you cannot be bothered with going to the courthouse for accurate official records. Neither can your counterparts in India, Pakistan and China.





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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Scott Perry/PA
3/26/2008 4:24:45 PM (6964 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - David Bloys/TX
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - David Bloys/TX
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Anita Backlund/MN
3/27/2008 12:05:30 AM (6805 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - David Bloys/TX
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - michael quinn/NY
3/28/2008 2:21:59 AM (6979 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
3/28/2008 9:22:42 AM (6861 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - michael quinn/NY
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - michael quinn/NY
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - michael quinn/NY
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Rob  Robinson/PA
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Rob  Robinson/PA
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - michael quinn/NY
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - michael quinn/NY
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - michael quinn/NY
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Ron McPherson/IA
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Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Robert Franco/OH
3/31/2008 11:32:04 PM (6460 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Janis Talbot/SC
3/31/2008 6:21:13 PM (6447 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Scott Perry/PA
3/31/2008 7:08:25 PM (6344 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - michael quinn/NY
4/1/2008 12:16:33 AM (6325 views)
Re: charge for viewing online index ??? - Bob  Goeppner/MA
4/1/2008 12:35:26 PM (6562 views)

Title Source LTD dba Title Direct, Zen Title, Nez Title, Home Sweet Home Equity LLC & 3E Properties - Jay Duncan/MO
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G-Docs Warning - Scott Aduddell/MO
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Online Philadelphia County Search Needed - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: Online Philadelphia County Search Needed - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Online Philadelphia County Search Needed - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: Online Philadelphia County Search Needed - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: Online Philadelphia County Search Needed - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: Online Philadelphia County Search Needed - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: Online Philadelphia County Search Needed - Scott Perry/PA
4/9/2008 8:51:01 PM (6551 views)
Re: Online Philadelphia County Search Needed - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/10/2008 8:02:30 AM (6447 views)

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