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Lighthouse? - Dan Zook/NY
2/19/2008 10:57:00 AM (2510 views)

Quantum Abstract/NY - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
2/17/2008 12:54:21 PM (2638 views)

No pay from Jacqueline Battle - mollie cardell/SC
2/15/2008 3:32:02 PM (3152 views)
Re: No pay from Jacqueline Battle - Wendi See/SC
2/16/2008 11:46:15 AM (3971 views)
Re: No pay from Jacqueline Battle - george Hubka/MI
2/19/2008 10:13:00 PM (3630 views)

Input on Paridise Settlement - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
2/15/2008 10:27:02 AM (3032 views)
Re: Input on Paridise Settlement - James Mohrmann/VA
2/19/2008 10:41:49 AM (3693 views)

Absolute Property Services - Rob/NY
2/13/2008 2:52:52 PM (3403 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/13/2008 4:24:29 PM (3896 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Jay Duncan/MO
2/14/2008 1:19:16 PM (3907 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Carol Smith-Baker/MD
2/20/2008 11:38:37 AM (4147 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Donna D'Amore/PA
2/19/2008 10:18:51 AM (3734 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/19/2008 11:57:05 AM (3645 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - David Lederman/NY
2/19/2008 1:53:41 PM (3960 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/19/2008 11:53:42 PM (3969 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Wayne Schutt II/NY
2/22/2008 8:21:05 AM (4056 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Phil McLean/CO
2/19/2008 5:26:48 PM (3874 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Scott Perry/PA
2/19/2008 8:11:27 PM (3907 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Rob/NY
2/20/2008 7:58:18 AM (3979 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Loretta Reed/MD
2/20/2008 9:32:36 AM (4195 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - President President/NY
2/20/2008 3:13:53 PM (4374 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Loretta Reed/MD
2/20/2008 4:43:33 PM (4103 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Wayne Schutt II/NY
2/22/2008 8:18:47 AM (3908 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Donna D'Amore/PA
2/26/2008 12:56:22 PM (3957 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services update - Phil McLean/CO
3/3/2008 4:03:28 PM (3995 views)


Real Title Services


SAFEGUARD TITLE - john franz/NJ
2/13/2008 2:04:59 PM (6411 views)
Re: SAFEGUARD TITLE - thomas reale/NY
2/19/2008 5:23:42 PM (4648 views)
Re: SAFEGUARD TITLE - Mark Russomanno/NJ
3/3/2008 6:34:37 PM (4186 views)
Re: SAFEGUARD TITLE - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
3/4/2008 11:31:14 AM (4104 views)

searchlight abstract - denise davenport/NY
2/12/2008 3:13:33 PM (3399 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - george Hubka/MI
2/12/2008 3:30:33 PM (3882 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - Natalie Collier/NY
2/12/2008 8:18:17 PM (3936 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - /NY
2/15/2008 10:13:05 AM (3821 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/15/2008 10:15:39 AM (3900 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/13/2008 10:31:38 AM (3766 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/13/2008 11:20:45 AM (3700 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/13/2008 4:09:08 PM (3606 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - george Hubka/MI
2/19/2008 10:24:36 PM (3823 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/20/2008 12:35:32 AM (3609 views)

I don't understand why anyone who calls themselves an abstractor can't walk over to a Justice Court or Small Claims Court and fill out the forms, pay the fees, get a trial date and present the case themselves. As a general rule the creditor can file the suit without hiring an attorney in a small claims court. You might run into a jurisdictional problem with an out of state company, but that can be over come. If you debtor is a corporation look to the corporation's home state and you can obtain the registered agent for service of process and have the summons filed and deiivered to that agent. If the owner is an individual you can use the business address for service.

The chance of these people coming to court are small and you can present your evidence (orders, invoices, affidavits, and work product, to the court and move for a default judgment. And in most cases the judge with give you that default judgment. Remember that these courts are generally not courts of record so an automatic appeal will granted if moved for by the judgment debtor. But what do you think the chance of that is when they did not even bother to come to court?

Once that appeal time expires, which differs from state to state, the judgment will be enrolled. You all know about judgments.

After the judgment is enrolled, if the judgment debtor resides or does business in your state, in most states you can call that judgment debtor back to the court for a judgment debtor exam. Most people and businesses don't want that. Also if they are within the courts jurisdiction and they fail to show for the examination the court can hold the judgment debtor in contempt of court and the penalties can be severe,

What do you have to lose other than a few hours work time, but you gain a world of self confidence and you have made a statement to the non payer, to paraphrase the movie Network, "That I'm made as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore."

These guys can't make a dime without the abstractor. We should all remember that.

One other thing that judgment allows you to do is to go back behind your work and determine who the vendor management companies client was; and then send a certified copy pf the judgment to those clients. I would advise the vendor management that that is your intention first because you may get paid and the vendor management company has to have income in order to pay you.

Remember these are general rules., but each and everyone of you has the knowledge and ability to read you state code books to get a line on your state's rules.

Best wishes. And listen to Kevin. He is right on about having the client post the fee and payment terms on the order. A signature of an officer of a corporation. or LLC, or sole proprietor is also a smart thing to require. It's hard to deny any of that when you are in court. What are they gonna do, claim that they were or are NCM?


James Toney

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Re: searchlight abstract - Debra Janssen/NY
2/17/2008 8:51:59 PM (3834 views)

Best Rural Counties for Quality of Life - David Bloys/TX
2/12/2008 11:12:25 AM (3612 views)

ActiveRain - KELLY ROBERTSON/CA
2/11/2008 10:50:12 AM (3882 views)

Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Chloe Niglio/PA
2/11/2008 10:11:40 AM (3457 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/11/2008 4:53:17 PM (3907 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Donna D'Amore/PA
2/19/2008 9:37:23 AM (3854 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Cate Jones/NH
2/19/2008 9:55:13 AM (3727 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/19/2008 10:32:25 PM (3851 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Donna D'Amore/PA
2/20/2008 12:01:55 PM (4117 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/24/2008 9:28:07 PM (4034 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Chloe Niglio/PA
2/25/2008 9:14:47 AM (4034 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2008 9:28:08 AM (3922 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2008 4:15:41 PM (3900 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Chloe Niglio/PA
2/25/2008 4:29:02 PM (3913 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2008 7:48:23 PM (4087 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/26/2008 9:02:23 AM (3982 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Chloe Niglio/PA
2/26/2008 3:11:27 PM (3991 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Scott Perry/PA
2/26/2008 8:58:59 PM (4199 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/27/2008 10:32:13 AM (3796 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Scott Perry/PA
2/27/2008 4:22:31 PM (3852 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2008 7:16:49 PM (3889 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2008 7:43:35 PM (4001 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2008 8:01:55 PM (4037 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/26/2008 9:03:13 PM (4069 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Chloe Niglio/PA
2/27/2008 9:31:11 AM (3883 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/27/2008 10:31:00 AM (3836 views)

How to get County to comply with their own rules - Constance Foye/VA
2/9/2008 12:16:55 PM (2839 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2008 2:09:44 PM (3547 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/9/2008 5:15:55 PM (3578 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - Constance Foye/VA
2/10/2008 7:58:03 PM (3299 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/10/2008 9:49:25 PM (3504 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - William Pattison /CA
2/11/2008 11:45:16 AM (3313 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - Janice/OH
2/14/2008 10:18:40 PM (3384 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/25/2008 11:00:43 PM (3736 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - William Pattison /CA
3/18/2008 5:35:13 PM (3608 views)

Texas Town For Sale - David Bloys/TX
2/8/2008 3:29:00 PM (3717 views)

Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/8/2008 2:48:37 PM (3570 views)
Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Laurie E/MD
2/10/2008 4:01:49 PM (3974 views)
Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - christine /MA
2/11/2008 6:52:49 PM (3924 views)
Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Jack Johanson/PA
2/13/2008 10:09:43 AM (3874 views)
Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - george Hubka/MI
2/19/2008 10:34:19 PM (3701 views)
Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Jack Johanson/PA
2/20/2008 4:29:25 PM (4141 views)
Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/21/2008 11:19:20 AM (3919 views)
Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Marian Littleton/VA
3/2/2008 8:46:27 PM (3959 views)

Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/7/2008 8:23:06 PM (3459 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/8/2008 12:06:02 PM (3970 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/9/2008 8:19:33 AM (3795 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/9/2008 8:38:16 AM (3666 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/9/2008 7:25:28 PM (3684 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Marcus Magee/NY
2/12/2008 10:51:05 AM (3527 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/12/2008 6:11:22 PM (3576 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Lynn Miller/PA
2/12/2008 7:28:04 PM (3425 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Nils Nelson/ME
2/12/2008 10:53:14 PM (3815 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/13/2008 7:28:25 AM (3480 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Wayne Schutt II/NY
2/13/2008 2:50:46 PM (3435 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/13/2008 4:13:29 PM (3465 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Wayne Schutt II/NY
2/14/2008 6:41:03 AM (3520 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Wayne Schutt II/NY
2/15/2008 3:55:55 PM (3521 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - george Hubka/MI
2/19/2008 10:39:55 PM (3419 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Scott Perry/PA
2/20/2008 12:02:42 AM (3553 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/20/2008 12:43:33 AM (3551 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Scott Perry/PA
2/20/2008 6:52:51 AM (3596 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/20/2008 9:10:35 AM (3860 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Scott Perry/PA
2/20/2008 4:49:12 PM (3658 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/20/2008 7:42:03 AM (3608 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - NANCY WALLACE/NJ
2/19/2008 9:19:57 AM (3440 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - george Hubka/MI
2/19/2008 10:41:45 PM (3464 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - ARTHUR LIPPMAN/MA
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Wayne Schutt II/NY
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/13/2008 10:42:38 PM (3557 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Wayne Schutt II/NY
2/14/2008 6:42:14 AM (3474 views)

Outstanding invoice - Cate Jones/NH
2/7/2008 11:26:01 AM (3148 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - Sheila Sten/PA
2/7/2008 2:29:57 PM (3830 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/8/2008 2:50:36 PM (3759 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: Outstanding invoice - Cate Jones/NH
2/11/2008 9:09:27 AM (3547 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - george Hubka/MI
2/11/2008 4:57:01 PM (3479 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - Cate Jones/NH
2/12/2008 10:02:33 AM (3380 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - Cate Jones/NH
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Re: Outstanding invoice - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Outstanding invoice - Cate Jones/NH
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Re: Outstanding invoice - Chloe Niglio/PA
2/26/2008 3:22:58 PM (3817 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - Jean Allen/NC
2/26/2008 6:21:32 PM (3776 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - J Nisonger/CA
2/26/2008 6:22:36 PM (3755 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - george Hubka/MI
2/26/2008 9:10:40 PM (3735 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - J Nisonger/CA
2/27/2008 2:35:03 AM (3647 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - george Hubka/MI
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