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American Abstract - Gena Taylor/VA
7/15/2007 10:14:25 PM (2484 views)
Re: American Abstract - Anne Gilbert/VT
7/16/2007 7:10:30 AM (2381 views)
Re: American Abstract - Ron McPherson/IA
7/16/2007 9:57:56 AM (2438 views)
Re: American Abstract - Phil McLean/CO
7/16/2007 10:24:42 AM (2412 views)
Re: American Abstract - Shannon Budziak/VT
7/16/2007 7:19:06 PM (2357 views)
Re: American Abstract - Daniel DeBrucker/NY
7/17/2007 11:42:50 AM (2371 views)
Re: American Abstract - Loretta Reed/MD
7/17/2007 12:58:35 PM (2357 views)
Re: American Abstract - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/18/2007 6:43:29 PM (2376 views)
Re: American Abstract - Gena Taylor/VA
7/23/2007 10:36:27 AM (2199 views)
Re: American Abstract - Phil McLean/CO
7/23/2007 12:42:31 PM (2288 views)

Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - Jay Duncan/MO
7/13/2007 10:45:00 PM (3208 views)
Re: Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/14/2007 11:07:41 AM (2152 views)
Re: Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/14/2007 4:07:34 PM (2141 views)
Re: Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - Jay Duncan/MO
7/14/2007 4:50:54 PM (2113 views)
Re: Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - Stephen Williams/MO
7/19/2007 9:34:07 PM (2081 views)
Re: Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - David Robertson/VA
7/23/2007 7:14:59 PM (2036 views)
There are some cities which, by state law, are independent cities. They are not part of any county. This seems to be a difficult concept for prople in states which don't have independent cities.

As others have said, Baltimore and St. Louis are prominent examples of independent cities. As far as I know, they are the only independent cities in Maryland and Missouri respectively.

What really blows the minds of outlanders is Virginia's system of independent cities. In Virginia, there are three types of local govenrment entities. There are counties. There are towns, which are part of the counties within which they are physically located, just like towns and cities in other states. No problem so far. Then there are independent cities, which ARE NOT PART OF ANY COUNTY. This is a hard concept for out-of-staters to grasp. It leads to conversations like this:

DUDE FROM CALIFORNIA: What county is the property in?

ME: It's in the City of Lynchburg.

DUDE FROM CALIFORNIA: What county is Lynchburg in?

ME: It's not in any county!!!!!

DUDE FROM CALIFORNIA: But it's gotta be in a county.

ME: No, it's an independent city. It's not a part of any county.

DUDE FROM CALIFORNIA: Huh? (Thinking: Jeez, I'm talking some ignorant hillbilly!)

There are independent cities in Virginia with populations as small a 5 or 6 thousand people. (And there are towns with much larger populations.)

To further complicate things, some smaller cities share clerks' (recorders') offices with adjacent counties. So deeds for the City of Bedford and Bedford County are in the same office, and indexed together, as are the City of Covington and Alleghany County. But their assessors' offices and all other local offices are separate. Taxes, zoning, subdivision, all separate. And recorded douments must clearly state whether the property is in the city or the county so that local recording taxes can be distributed correctly..

There are counties and cities with similar names. This isn't too bad with Roanoke County and Roanoke City, for example, which are adjacent. But Richmond County is 60 or 70 miles from Richmond City, and Franklin County is 150 miles from Franklin City. On top of that, Franklin City does not have its own clerk's office, but shares Southampton County's.

It can be pretty hard to get somebody in Boise or Bangalore to understand this stuff. There are even more ramifications that I will not get into now. This sort of thing is yet another reason why there is no substitute for people with local knowledge.


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Occupational Tax - Carla Curry/KY
7/13/2007 5:36:26 PM (2295 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Robert Franco/OH
7/13/2007 6:07:56 PM (2341 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Jay Duncan/MO
7/13/2007 6:20:40 PM (2310 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 6:25:42 PM (2227 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/13/2007 10:42:00 PM (2227 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - george Hubka/MI
7/16/2007 10:39:31 AM (2273 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Robert Franco/OH
7/16/2007 11:22:41 AM (2241 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/16/2007 1:03:10 PM (2242 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 6:29:56 PM (2203 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Jay Duncan/MO
7/13/2007 6:34:03 PM (2204 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 6:35:07 PM (2280 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/13/2007 7:05:38 PM (2202 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 8:52:07 PM (2181 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/22/2007 4:33:52 PM (2135 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/23/2007 5:08:59 PM (2085 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/23/2007 5:21:37 PM (2043 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/23/2007 7:14:37 PM (2024 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Jay Duncan/MO
7/13/2007 9:45:08 PM (2112 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 10:59:30 PM (2054 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Carla Curry/KY
7/13/2007 7:19:15 PM (2072 views)

The Latest Defalcation - Joshua Lukins/IA
7/13/2007 1:10:56 PM (4184 views)
Re: The Latest Defalcation - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 2:30:06 PM (2459 views)
Re: The Latest Defalcation - george Hubka/MI
7/16/2007 10:43:51 AM (2217 views)

OT... someone might know... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/12/2007 8:06:59 PM (2049 views)
Re: OT... someone might know... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/12/2007 8:22:49 PM (4040 views)


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Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/12/2007 3:56:36 PM (2294 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 4:51:24 PM (2478 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - George Booth/OH
7/12/2007 5:12:23 PM (2491 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 6:22:56 PM (2322 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 6:22:49 PM (2354 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 6:23:46 PM (2440 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 6:28:37 PM (2335 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 8:28:26 PM (2450 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Robert Franco/OH
7/12/2007 6:49:26 PM (2372 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 7:02:48 PM (2378 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 7:51:32 PM (2379 views)
CT Abstractor Foreclosure Search Fees - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
7/16/2007 9:03:33 AM (2568 views)
Re: CT Abstractor Foreclosure Search Fees - Robert Franco/OH
7/16/2007 11:18:54 AM (2337 views)
Re: CT Abstractor Foreclosure Search Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/16/2007 1:14:49 PM (2466 views)
Re: CT Abstractor Foreclosure Search Fees - Robert Franco/OH
7/16/2007 2:09:22 PM (2365 views)
Re: CT Abstractor Foreclosure Search Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/16/2007 3:24:39 PM (2396 views)

National Title Insurance Carrier - Dexter Jung/TX
7/12/2007 9:23:27 AM (1791 views)

Sovereign Title Agency - Jennifer Knott/PA
7/12/2007 9:07:49 AM (2324 views)
Re: Sovereign Title Agency - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 3:03:02 PM (2465 views)
Re: Sovereign Title Agency - Christine Sheeler/PA
7/12/2007 11:36:57 PM (2481 views)

Another request for reduction in fees - Jay Duncan/MO
7/12/2007 6:00:14 AM (2369 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 6:45:28 AM (2393 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 7:05:45 AM (2337 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Wendi See/SC
7/12/2007 1:21:57 PM (2349 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 2:11:08 PM (2397 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Ray Glowniak/CA
7/16/2007 1:40:28 PM (2316 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/18/2007 6:41:29 PM (2180 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Loretta Reed/MD
7/18/2007 6:55:43 PM (2256 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Robert Franco/OH
7/18/2007 7:56:59 PM (2208 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Loretta Reed/MD
7/18/2007 8:21:05 PM (2268 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - george Hubka/MI
7/19/2007 12:54:04 AM (2203 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/19/2007 4:42:40 PM (2287 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Loretta Reed/MD
7/19/2007 7:48:46 PM (2152 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/19/2007 7:52:07 PM (2122 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Natalie Collier/NY
7/29/2007 10:21:10 PM (2267 views)

The Guy In the Ad on SOT's Home Page... - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 8:54:24 PM (1919 views)

More Etiquette suggestions - Deborah Manion/VA
7/11/2007 11:43:35 AM (2183 views)
Re: More Etiquette suggestions - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 6:43:38 PM (2278 views)
Re: More Etiquette suggestions - Jay Duncan/MO
7/11/2007 10:24:00 PM (2231 views)
Re: More Etiquette suggestions - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 6:46:22 AM (2188 views)
Re: More Etiquette suggestions - Deborah Manion/VA
7/12/2007 8:58:45 AM (2181 views)

LandSafe - Scott Aduddell/MO
7/11/2007 8:28:11 AM (2625 views)
Re: LandSafe - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 3:57:09 PM (2412 views)

PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 7:27:15 AM (2274 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Loretta Reed/MD
7/11/2007 9:06:01 AM (2476 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/11/2007 9:26:38 AM (2472 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Kurt deVries/FL
7/11/2007 11:45:53 AM (2325 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/11/2007 12:21:13 PM (2383 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 3:53:59 PM (2268 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/11/2007 4:29:18 PM (2310 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - David Jenkins/PA
7/12/2007 3:02:42 PM (3947 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 3:36:53 PM (2287 views)
Back to the question... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/11/2007 12:02:34 PM (2412 views)
Re: Back to the question... - Robert Franco/OH
7/11/2007 2:41:14 PM (2334 views)
Re: Back to the question... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/11/2007 5:03:21 PM (2240 views)
Re: Back to the question... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/16/2007 6:25:38 PM (2221 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Wendi See/SC
7/11/2007 12:58:17 PM (2347 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - PP/AL
7/11/2007 2:16:17 PM (2322 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 3:56:18 PM (2268 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/12/2007 12:15:45 AM (2268 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 6:42:49 AM (2234 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - george Hubka/MI
7/12/2007 7:19:12 AM (2275 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Dianne Barnidge/MS
7/12/2007 8:39:05 AM (2285 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Leroy & Sue Lewis/GA
7/12/2007 8:52:39 AM (2247 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Russ Frye/GA
7/12/2007 8:13:03 PM (2328 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - April Redmon/SC
7/16/2007 10:36:31 AM (2277 views)

E-mail / Posting Etiquette - Jay Duncan/MO
7/10/2007 8:31:19 PM (2928 views)

Political Junk is back up! - George Booth/OH
7/10/2007 8:29:22 PM (3104 views)
Re: Political Junk is back up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/11/2007 5:40:22 AM (2297 views)


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