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Gallows Humor? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/25/2007 2:37:07 PM (5914 views)
Re: Gallows Humor? - Wanda Steudel/OH
9/25/2007 3:09:06 PM (2686 views)
Re: Gallows Humor? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/25/2007 6:00:13 PM (2742 views)
Re: Gallows Humor? - Vikki Moffitt/GA
10/4/2007 5:19:20 PM (2649 views)
Re: Gallows Humor? - Scott Perry/PA
10/4/2007 5:53:47 PM (2655 views)

Do Judgments always attach? - Thomas W/FL
9/25/2007 10:25:15 AM (2764 views)
Re: Do Judgments always attach? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/25/2007 10:54:41 AM (2919 views)
Re: Do Judgments always attach? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/25/2007 11:45:36 AM (2826 views)
Steve/Kevin - Thomas W/FL
9/25/2007 12:07:53 PM (2790 views)
Re: Steve/Kevin - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/25/2007 12:19:24 PM (2897 views)
Re: Steve/Kevin - Thomas W/FL
9/25/2007 1:17:13 PM (2826 views)
Re: Steve/Kevin - Wanda Steudel/OH
9/25/2007 3:02:44 PM (2895 views)
Re: Steve/Kevin - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/25/2007 3:04:03 PM (2890 views)
Re: Do Judgments always attach? - David Robertson/VA
9/25/2007 5:25:20 PM (2662 views)
You won't believe this... - Thomas W/FL
9/25/2007 5:33:13 PM (2775 views)
Re: You won't believe this... - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/25/2007 6:12:20 PM (2850 views)
Re: You won't believe this... - Thomas W/FL
9/25/2007 11:43:30 PM (2881 views)
Re: Do Judgments always attach? - David Chisolm/MS
9/26/2007 12:35:22 AM (2907 views)
Re: Do Judgments always attach? - David Chisolm/MS
9/26/2007 12:35:23 AM (2879 views)
Re: Do Judgments always attach? - Steph/RI
10/2/2007 9:42:58 AM (3067 views)
Abstractor Humor - Deborah Manion/VA
10/3/2007 11:22:06 AM (3048 views)
Re: Abstractor Humor - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/3/2007 12:42:19 PM (3167 views)
Re: Abstractor Humor - Patrick Scott/IL
10/3/2007 1:13:05 PM (3135 views)
Re: Abstractor Humor - Scott Perry/PA
10/3/2007 5:29:19 PM (3036 views)

Datatrace - Barbara Bennett/IN
9/24/2007 1:42:05 PM (2910 views)
Re: Datatrace - Seth Levine/MD
9/24/2007 5:27:11 PM (3196 views)
Re: Datatrace - Julie Jasiunas/WI
9/24/2007 5:41:54 PM (2831 views)
Re: Datatrace - Seth Levine/MD
9/24/2007 6:17:27 PM (2801 views)
Re: Datatrace - Amy Tatusko/VA
9/24/2007 7:47:46 PM (2845 views)
Re: Datatrace - KS/IN
9/24/2007 8:04:36 PM (2984 views)
Re: Datatrace - Barbara Bennett/IN
9/24/2007 10:40:11 PM (3130 views)
Re: Datatrace - Richard Palen/FL
9/26/2007 1:00:29 PM (2846 views)
Re: Datatrace - Seth Levine/MD
9/27/2007 2:45:46 PM (2757 views)
Re: Datatrace - Kim Hawkins/MI
10/1/2007 6:51:37 PM (3148 views)
Re: Datatrace - Robert Franco/OH
10/1/2007 8:05:32 PM (3238 views)

So ATM is Now Servicelink? - DS/NC
9/24/2007 1:10:32 PM (3117 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
9/24/2007 1:20:56 PM (3231 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - DS/NC
9/24/2007 1:23:48 PM (3234 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/24/2007 5:35:24 PM (2971 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - Robert Breakell/CT
9/27/2007 8:34:05 AM (2948 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - Wanda Steudel/OH
9/27/2007 10:26:55 AM (3048 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - elizabeth reddy/FL
10/2/2007 9:34:38 AM (3037 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - george Hubka/MI
10/29/2007 8:18:20 AM (2750 views)

Lost another one, Nationstar - Amy Tatusko/VA
9/24/2007 12:52:13 PM (3281 views)


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Equifax fee redux ???? - george Hubka/MI
9/21/2007 11:03:24 PM (2718 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - David Chisolm/MS
9/21/2007 11:33:50 PM (2940 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - Jon Lax/RI
9/24/2007 8:42:53 AM (2854 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - DS/NC
9/24/2007 1:49:35 PM (2698 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - george Hubka/MI
9/25/2007 2:45:30 AM (2763 views)

TITLE PLANT - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
9/21/2007 10:33:43 AM (2815 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/21/2007 10:54:11 AM (3066 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
9/24/2007 12:23:56 PM (2793 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - Kathy Taylor/CO
9/24/2007 10:56:09 PM (2774 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - Faith Burns/MD
9/25/2007 12:08:28 PM (2556 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - Ron McPherson/IA
9/29/2007 1:16:17 AM (2794 views)

What would you include? - Amy Tatusko/VA
9/21/2007 8:50:19 AM (2619 views)
Re: What would you include? - Deborah Manion/VA
9/21/2007 10:15:23 AM (2619 views)
Re: What would you include? - David Chisolm/MS
9/21/2007 11:37:29 PM (2701 views)
Re: What would you include? - Robert Franco/OH
9/22/2007 7:11:26 PM (4542 views)
Re: What would you include? - Dennis D/NY
9/23/2007 6:07:17 PM (2699 views)
Re: What would you include? - Ardel Richter/AR
10/1/2007 8:58:13 PM (2619 views)

Selling company/non-payment/company names - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 5:56:17 PM (2754 views)
Re: Selling company/non-payment/company names - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2007 6:09:51 PM (2658 views)
Re: Selling company/non-payment/company names - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 8:18:46 PM (2659 views)
Parkway - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 9:02:45 PM (2757 views)
great stuff Kevin, thanks very much - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 8:57:33 PM (2601 views)
Re: great stuff Kevin, thanks very much - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/21/2007 8:27:42 AM (2740 views)

Express Finanacial Article - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 10:47:28 AM (2865 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2007 12:28:42 PM (2652 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 1:25:02 PM (2587 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Scott Perry/PA
9/21/2007 8:15:50 PM (2774 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 7:09:04 AM (2862 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Michele Horger/MI
9/21/2007 4:35:52 PM (2629 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Loretta Reed/MD
9/22/2007 8:53:06 AM (2859 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 9:18:04 AM (2814 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Loretta Reed/MD
9/22/2007 9:38:50 AM (2788 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 9:51:21 AM (2809 views)

Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/19/2007 5:54:03 PM (2728 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - David Chisolm/MS
9/19/2007 7:47:50 PM (2680 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 8:52:14 PM (2683 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 8:57:16 PM (2585 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - David Chisolm/MS
9/19/2007 9:03:25 PM (2574 views)
To anger even more - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
9/20/2007 8:33:09 AM (2559 views)
very good points - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 5:58:22 PM (2520 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Rob  Robinson/PA
9/25/2007 1:46:05 PM (2669 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/25/2007 4:02:39 PM (2748 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/25/2007 6:15:31 PM (2806 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/25/2007 8:14:45 PM (2775 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Patrick Scott/IL
9/25/2007 11:53:42 PM (2710 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/26/2007 1:42:16 PM (2777 views)

Hey Steve,

    nice idea about charging an amount suitable to the size of the loan (that is what you meant, right?).  The only draw back I see is that abstractors would only get paid IF the loan closed.  Ouch. 
     I wish that we would get paid the appropriate amount for a search vs the risk, but with some abstractors willing to complete current owner searches for $15 to $20 and full searches for $40 it is difficult to get the desired fee.  
     The second difficulty is determining when or if the loan closed to be sure that the abstractor got paid.  This would involve numerous updates of the recorder's office for the recorded mortgage.
     I believe a more suitable pricing structure might be the time spent on the search.  If it took an hour to complete the search we should be paid more than if the same current owner search only took 15 minutes because they bought it 2 months ago.  Something with full searches, charge by the hour.  It is already done with most commercial searches why not residential.  Of course the client would want checks and balances (totally understandable), they should not be charged for 3 hours of work if the borrower just bought the property 3 months ago.  Most professions work this way, i.e. attorneys, doctors, contractors, almost any other service and/or professional industry does.  Will this be an almost impossible feat to accomplish, probably. 
      To make this so and to survive Title companies really need to charge for their service regardless of the loan closing or not.  They must pay for the search and then they complete the commitment which takes time and money as well.  They should charge a cancellation fee enough to cover their costs. 
     The LO should only order title when all other requirements are fulfilled and they know the loan will close.  Judgments and Federal and State Tax Liens already show on most credit reports, so they already have an idea if the loan is going to make it through the underwriter.  This will require the LO to be educated or become educated, instead of just anyone walking off the street and 10 minutes later they are a LO.
     A lot of what is going on in the title industry is self-inflicted by the title companies and the abstractors.  I know Robert wrote an article or post entitled "Are we our on worst enemy" or something very similar.  The title companies by bowing to the demands of the lenders, who know nothing about title, and the abstractors by lowering their prices and in turn their professionalism by reducing themselves to a necessary evil.
     It has been pointed out be others before, if we not consider ourselves professionals then who will?

jmho
Jay

 

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Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/26/2007 4:17:46 PM (2865 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/26/2007 4:28:38 PM (2724 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/26/2007 4:56:38 PM (2713 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/30/2007 10:31:26 PM (2659 views)

Counselor's Title/Lombard,Il - Barbara Bennett/IN
9/19/2007 5:26:28 PM (2971 views)

Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Loretta Reed/MD
9/19/2007 5:07:12 PM (2850 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 5:22:07 PM (2785 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/19/2007 9:05:47 PM (2716 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
9/20/2007 2:17:54 PM (2633 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/20/2007 3:10:17 PM (2656 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Rick Wilkinson/TN
9/26/2007 11:59:20 AM (2884 views)

Fidelity National Financial - Irving, TX - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 4:16:56 PM (2784 views)
Re: Fidelity National Financial - Irving, TX - Angela Swafford/FL
9/24/2007 7:43:12 AM (2992 views)

Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 5:31:40 AM (2642 views)
Re: Email from India - Kim Cowles/WI
9/18/2007 8:08:11 AM (2972 views)
Re: Email from India - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2007 8:50:24 AM (3075 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 12:11:11 PM (2578 views)
Re: Email from India - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2007 1:12:41 PM (2508 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 1:27:27 PM (2615 views)
Re: Email from India - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 9:51:55 AM (2576 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 5:14:01 PM (2641 views)
Re: Email from India - Scott Perry/PA
9/18/2007 6:43:38 PM (2441 views)
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