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Equifax fee redux ???? - george Hubka/MI
9/21/2007 11:03:24 PM (3004 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - David Chisolm/MS
9/21/2007 11:33:50 PM (3730 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - Jon Lax/RI
9/24/2007 8:42:53 AM (3718 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - DS/NC
9/24/2007 1:49:35 PM (3502 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - george Hubka/MI
9/25/2007 2:45:30 AM (3572 views)

TITLE PLANT - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
9/21/2007 10:33:43 AM (3104 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/21/2007 10:54:11 AM (3964 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
9/24/2007 12:23:56 PM (3716 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - Kathy Taylor/CO
9/24/2007 10:56:09 PM (3640 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - Faith Burns/MD
9/25/2007 12:08:28 PM (3466 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - Ron McPherson/IA
9/29/2007 1:16:17 AM (3666 views)

What would you include? - Amy Tatusko/VA
9/21/2007 8:50:19 AM (2865 views)
Re: What would you include? - Deborah Manion/VA
9/21/2007 10:15:23 AM (3412 views)
Re: What would you include? - David Chisolm/MS
9/21/2007 11:37:29 PM (3596 views)
Re: What would you include? - Robert Franco/OH
9/22/2007 7:11:26 PM (5428 views)
Re: What would you include? - Dennis D/NY
9/23/2007 6:07:17 PM (3596 views)
Re: What would you include? - Ardel Richter/AR
10/1/2007 8:58:13 PM (3459 views)

Selling company/non-payment/company names - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 5:56:17 PM (3006 views)
Re: Selling company/non-payment/company names - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2007 6:09:51 PM (3523 views)
Re: Selling company/non-payment/company names - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 8:18:46 PM (3481 views)
Parkway - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 9:02:45 PM (3590 views)
great stuff Kevin, thanks very much - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 8:57:33 PM (3455 views)
Re: great stuff Kevin, thanks very much - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/21/2007 8:27:42 AM (3661 views)

Express Finanacial Article - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 10:47:28 AM (3208 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2007 12:28:42 PM (3494 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 1:25:02 PM (3397 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Scott Perry/PA
9/21/2007 8:15:50 PM (3568 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 7:09:04 AM (3720 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Michele Horger/MI
9/21/2007 4:35:52 PM (3399 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Loretta Reed/MD
9/22/2007 8:53:06 AM (3707 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 9:18:04 AM (3620 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Loretta Reed/MD
9/22/2007 9:38:50 AM (3562 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 9:51:21 AM (3617 views)




Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/19/2007 5:54:03 PM (3071 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - David Chisolm/MS
9/19/2007 7:47:50 PM (3547 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 8:52:14 PM (3479 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 8:57:16 PM (3410 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - David Chisolm/MS
9/19/2007 9:03:25 PM (3371 views)
To anger even more - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
9/20/2007 8:33:09 AM (3390 views)
very good points - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 5:58:22 PM (3377 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Rob  Robinson/PA
9/25/2007 1:46:05 PM (3447 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/25/2007 4:02:39 PM (3544 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/25/2007 6:15:31 PM (3553 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/25/2007 8:14:45 PM (3548 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Patrick Scott/IL
9/25/2007 11:53:42 PM (3478 views)
I am so glad to see this kind of debate here that I almost wish I wasn't going fishing so I could join in!  I hope this gets continued at the top of the page!  Rob, it was great of you to drop in and I hope you will stick around to keep the conversation going. 

You pose a very good point in that we all have to tighten up our belts.  Jay answered you exquisitely.  The abstractors have been acceding to vendor managers' requests for fee reductions for years.  The downward trend in abstractor fees could not have been realized if not for the abstractors' finding more efficiencies in order to continue relationships with their source of work:  The customer.

There will come a point, however, and I think that point is near, when the most competent abstractors will seek more lucrative avenues of income.  Love of ones occupation does not feed the family.  So, here's my prediction:

The absence of competent abstractors, who are still necessary, and will be for some time to come, will bring with it an upward pressure on prices for abstracting service.  Supply and demand rarely fails to correct any market unless government gets involved.  Prices will continue to rise as more abstractors leave the field.  So, much of the efficiency achieved with on-line searching and outsourcing will be lost to a higher per-unit cost for the work that cannot be completed with more efficient means.

Vendor managers will seek less expensive, more efficient, means in an effort to replace the local abstractor.  They will find that they have killed the golden goose:  The local abstractor who was the efficiency that allowed the title companies to cover regions, or to provide coast-to-coast service, in the first place.

On-line records and adequate title plants for all occasions are a distant pipedream.  I think the vendor managers could give a little nudge to their sales forces to educated their customers as to the value of the service they are providing.  Vendor managers certainly provide a necessary service and might want to start thinking about selling that value, rather than cheap prices.  They are dealing with enormous lending institutions who are looking at the aggregate expense, not the per-unit cost that is by far outweighed by the profit realized by the per-unit loan income

Or, I could be wrong.  -Pat

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Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/26/2007 1:42:16 PM (3526 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/26/2007 4:17:46 PM (3650 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/26/2007 4:28:38 PM (3506 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/26/2007 4:56:38 PM (3486 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/30/2007 10:31:26 PM (3412 views)

Counselor's Title/Lombard,Il - Barbara Bennett/IN
9/19/2007 5:26:28 PM (3200 views)

Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Loretta Reed/MD
9/19/2007 5:07:12 PM (3131 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 5:22:07 PM (3601 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/19/2007 9:05:47 PM (3540 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
9/20/2007 2:17:54 PM (3455 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/20/2007 3:10:17 PM (3526 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Rick Wilkinson/TN
9/26/2007 11:59:20 AM (3692 views)

Fidelity National Financial - Irving, TX - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 4:16:56 PM (3008 views)
Re: Fidelity National Financial - Irving, TX - Angela Swafford/FL
9/24/2007 7:43:12 AM (3803 views)

Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 5:31:40 AM (2923 views)
Re: Email from India - Kim Cowles/WI
9/18/2007 8:08:11 AM (3799 views)
Re: Email from India - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2007 8:50:24 AM (3920 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 12:11:11 PM (3398 views)
Re: Email from India - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2007 1:12:41 PM (3310 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 1:27:27 PM (3377 views)
Re: Email from India - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 9:51:55 AM (3394 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 5:14:01 PM (3449 views)
Re: Email from India - Scott Perry/PA
9/18/2007 6:43:38 PM (3220 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 6:51:47 PM (3447 views)

the N symbol - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 12:57:11 AM (2809 views)
Re: the N symbol - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2007 9:06:46 AM (5315 views)
Re: the N symbol - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 9:39:34 AM (3607 views)

ESS Solutions, LLC - Russ Frye/GA
9/17/2007 11:20:32 PM (3018 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 12:31:30 AM (4003 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
9/18/2007 12:43:05 AM (3982 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Russ Frye/GA
9/19/2007 10:38:52 AM (3673 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
9/19/2007 4:03:39 PM (3680 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Carol Walker/AZ
9/19/2007 9:14:57 PM (3684 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Lisa/MD
9/20/2007 9:34:59 AM (3659 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/20/2007 8:18:11 PM (3856 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Janis Talbot/SC
9/24/2007 6:32:28 AM (3867 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
9/21/2007 12:10:16 AM (3720 views)

Central Lending Services - Jon Lax/RI
9/17/2007 5:05:26 PM (2440 views)

Jessica Talley - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
9/17/2007 2:13:56 PM (3006 views)
Re: Jessica Talley - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/17/2007 8:10:20 PM (3929 views)

Tax assessments in PA - Nathan Miller/KY
9/17/2007 11:12:38 AM (2748 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Jason Sheppard/PA
9/17/2007 12:29:18 PM (3540 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Robert Franco/OH
9/17/2007 12:40:55 PM (3472 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Christine Sheeler/PA
9/17/2007 2:59:47 PM (3601 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Jason Sheppard/PA
9/17/2007 3:39:25 PM (3563 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Scott Perry/PA
9/17/2007 5:08:37 PM (3398 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Michele Jorgensen/TX
9/24/2007 10:50:43 AM (3787 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Scott Perry/PA
9/24/2007 5:24:00 PM (3571 views)


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