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Kevin's Back! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/30/2007 2:55:56 PM (2335 views)
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Re: Kevin's Back! - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Kevin's Back! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 5:51:44 PM (2769 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kurt deVries/FL
8/31/2007 1:16:08 PM (2809 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/31/2007 5:38:48 PM (2707 views)

Crying in my rootbeer - NoName/CA
8/30/2007 12:08:30 AM (2508 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Wendi See/SC
8/30/2007 11:39:56 AM (2871 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - SGL/MD
8/30/2007 12:30:03 PM (2888 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Wendi See/SC
8/30/2007 1:18:16 PM (2874 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - marilyn snyder/FL
8/30/2007 1:23:36 PM (2889 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - george Hubka/MI
9/1/2007 12:00:06 AM (2754 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Wendi See/SC
9/1/2007 12:09:43 PM (2787 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - WAYNE QUICK/NC
9/4/2007 8:57:59 PM (2658 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Jon Lax/RI
9/4/2007 9:43:46 PM (2780 views)

US TITLE CORP, KNOXVILLE - Wendi See/SC
8/29/2007 5:43:34 PM (2585 views)
Re: US TITLE CORP, KNOXVILLE - Vikki Moffitt/GA
8/30/2007 7:00:25 PM (2830 views)
Re: US TITLE CORP, KNOXVILLE - Victoria Ledford/TN
9/4/2007 10:40:15 AM (2736 views)

Deadbeats - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
8/27/2007 7:50:58 PM (2859 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
8/27/2007 7:52:42 PM (3255 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/27/2007 9:25:57 PM (3220 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Dan Zook/NY
8/29/2007 9:15:52 AM (3141 views)
Re: Deadbeats - george Hubka/MI
8/27/2007 7:56:52 PM (3199 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Things Fdup/CA
8/28/2007 9:49:53 PM (3323 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Laurie Puckett/TN
9/4/2007 8:32:45 AM (2935 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Greg/VA
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Re: Deadbeats - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Deadbeats - SandyB/NY
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Re: Deadbeats - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/5/2007 7:04:13 PM (2974 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Joseph Weaver/VA
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How Crazy is Rhode Island? - Jacqueline Costa/RI
8/27/2007 5:10:55 PM (2607 views)
Re: How Crazy is Rhode Island? - Rob  Robinson/PA
8/28/2007 9:14:49 AM (3039 views)




Ohio Title Company Bankrupt - Robert Franco/OH
8/27/2007 12:45:34 PM (2130 views)

Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Jason Sheppard/PA
8/27/2007 10:58:38 AM (2576 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Rob  Robinson/PA
8/27/2007 11:47:34 AM (3179 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Victoria Ledford/TN
9/4/2007 10:43:57 AM (4651 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Robert Franco/OH
9/4/2007 1:08:33 PM (3102 views)

Great Vacation! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/26/2007 10:28:41 PM (1785 views)

Please Pray - Scott Perry/PA
8/26/2007 8:08:44 PM (2476 views)
Amen and get better soon. - Jay Duncan/MO
8/26/2007 9:00:27 PM (3367 views)
Re: Please Pray - Deborah Manion/VA
8/26/2007 10:19:00 PM (3235 views)
Re: Please Pray - Patrick Scott/IL
8/27/2007 9:56:23 AM (3103 views)
Re: Please Pray - Kurt deVries/FL
8/27/2007 10:04:20 AM (3147 views)
Re: Please Pray - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
8/27/2007 11:24:20 AM (3204 views)
Re: Please Pray - Anita Backlund/MN
8/27/2007 11:40:59 AM (3041 views)
Re: Please Pray - Sandra Morton/KS
8/27/2007 12:28:10 PM (3102 views)
Attorney in my thoughts and prayers - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
8/27/2007 1:05:04 PM (3092 views)
Re: Please Pray - Joseph Weaver/VA
8/27/2007 2:29:41 PM (3057 views)
Re: Please Pray - Robert Franco/OH
8/27/2007 3:14:32 PM (3072 views)
Re: Please Pray - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/27/2007 7:15:56 PM (3104 views)
Re: Please Pray - Lori Cassidy/CT
8/27/2007 9:12:03 PM (3123 views)
Re: Please Pray - ELAINA MAUSER/DE
8/28/2007 10:12:05 AM (3212 views)

What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
8/24/2007 11:06:47 PM (3769 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 11:36:35 AM (3103 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Wendi See/SC
8/29/2007 1:26:58 PM (2918 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 8:29:12 PM (3012 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Scott Perry/PA
8/29/2007 9:29:52 PM (3024 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/29/2007 2:25:17 PM (3025 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 8:41:10 PM (3038 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/30/2007 9:53:18 AM (3057 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 10:46:20 AM (3041 views)

 

Katrina,

I have read your posts on this thread. It would appear that your argument fails to focus on the big picture. There are a number of players in the closing process...buyer...seller...mortgagee...title insurer...appraiser...abstractor. Each has a vital purpose in the closing process.


While the mortgagee may rely on the appraisal to determine issues such as the debt to equity ratio and will undoubtedly hedge its bet with title insurance...there is a difference between the appraised value of the property and marketable title. If the title to the property is heavily encumbered the appraisal is meaningless. The appraisal represents a best case scenario. The question remains as to whether there is sufficient equity in the property to back up the appraisal. The under appreciated roll that the abstractor plays determines whether the marketable title value and the appraisal coincide.

I had an amusing situation two weeks ago when a title insurance company called me about a closing I had performed a year and a half earlier. I did not do the title search on the property. Apparently the mortgagor applied for a reverse mortgage on the property and subsequently died. The mortgagee wanted title to the mortgaged property only to find that the mortgagor never held title to the property. He held only a life use of the property. Apparently someone screwed up. Either the abstractor failed to verify the chain of title...seems unlikely that an abstractor would miss something that basic...or the title insurance agent failed to pick up on the title when he issued the title insurance commitment...or the lender screwed up the closing docs. As usual the lender is protected seven ways to Sunday through the title insurance, and the title insurer is on the hook for the face value of the policy. The title insurer did not seem to think that the abstractor was at fault, but rather one of the other players.

I would also take issue with your above statement that the lender always has a first place priority. It depends on what lien or mortgage is being foreclosed. When one acquires a property through foreclosure sale or tax lien certificates...he is insane if he fails to perform a title search to discover the state of title. If the foreclosure is of a second mortgage...the buyer takes subject to the first mortgage which has priority. In Connecticut real estate taxes have an automatic priority over mortgages and liens, and would have to be paid notwithstanding the foreclosing financial institution's priority. There are also the issues of inchoate liens such as mechanic's liens which may not be recorded until 90 days (Connecticut rule) following completion of work, and thus may not show up on the record in a timely manner. The unrecorded mechanic's lien may predate the recording of the foreclosing entities lien/mortgage, but if recorded in a timely manner may predate and relate back to a date earlier than the priority of the foreclosing entity.

In Connecticut the Plaintiff in a foreclosure action is required to perform a title search to determine the encumbrances on the property. Those encumbrances that predate the priority of of the foreclosing entity are simply identified in the complaint as prior encumbrances. Those that are subsequent to the Plaintiff's priority are identified in the complaint as junior encumbrances, and are named as defendants in the foreclosure action.

In summary, the objective is to have the appraised value and marketable title value coincide for a property. If they do not someone...buyer...mortgagee or title insurer is going to be rather upset with the outcome. The seller could also be sued for breach of warranty. Without the abstractor's work marketable title can not be determined.

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Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/30/2007 1:34:50 PM (4403 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 1:48:49 PM (3057 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/30/2007 2:15:25 PM (2854 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 2:17:28 PM (3001 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Wendi See/SC
8/30/2007 11:33:00 AM (3062 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
8/30/2007 9:43:50 PM (2996 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - kristin sandman/IN
8/30/2007 10:49:32 PM (2951 views)
Should say "And Wendi" not Any Wendi, sorry n/m - Loretta Reed/MD
8/31/2007 9:37:07 AM (2936 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - george Hubka/MI
9/1/2007 9:49:36 PM (2842 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Norean /GA
9/1/2007 10:51:18 AM (2910 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/4/2007 12:47:50 PM (2912 views)

E & O Insurance - Katrina Harris/GA
8/24/2007 3:32:41 PM (2642 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Loretta Reed/MD
8/24/2007 4:38:49 PM (3271 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - george Hubka/MI
8/26/2007 9:20:56 AM (3086 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Jennifer  Porter/FL
8/28/2007 7:04:38 PM (3071 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 11:18:24 AM (3047 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Robert Franco/OH
8/29/2007 2:33:32 PM (3014 views)

GDocs - power in numbers - Alix Ott/MI
8/24/2007 1:38:41 PM (2540 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - george Hubka/MI
8/26/2007 9:30:10 AM (3154 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - Alix Ott/MI
8/27/2007 11:57:03 AM (3193 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - clay doss/MO
8/28/2007 12:30:09 AM (3107 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - george Hubka/MI
8/28/2007 4:12:34 PM (3148 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 1:47:31 PM (3082 views)

Title Stream paid - Dan Zook/NY
8/24/2007 9:09:46 AM (1980 views)

Mortgage Industry Job Cuts Surpass 38,000 - Jay Duncan/MO
8/22/2007 5:57:51 PM (3855 views)
Re: Mortgage Industry Job Cuts Surpass 38,000 - George Booth/OH
8/23/2007 9:05:12 AM (2983 views)
Re: Mortgage Industry Job Cuts Surpass 38,000 - Jason Sheppard/PA
8/27/2007 11:17:46 AM (3019 views)

India warning - NoName/CA
8/22/2007 3:34:40 PM (2568 views)
Re: India warning - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/24/2007 3:51:56 AM (3243 views)


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