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Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Jason Sheppard/PA
8/27/2007 10:58:38 AM (2513 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Rob  Robinson/PA
8/27/2007 11:47:34 AM (3029 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Victoria Ledford/TN
9/4/2007 10:43:57 AM (4509 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Robert Franco/OH
9/4/2007 1:08:33 PM (2960 views)

Great Vacation! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/26/2007 10:28:41 PM (1741 views)

Please Pray - Scott Perry/PA
8/26/2007 8:08:44 PM (2429 views)
Amen and get better soon. - Jay Duncan/MO
8/26/2007 9:00:27 PM (3220 views)
Re: Please Pray - Deborah Manion/VA
8/26/2007 10:19:00 PM (3106 views)
Re: Please Pray - Patrick Scott/IL
8/27/2007 9:56:23 AM (2985 views)
Re: Please Pray - Kurt deVries/FL
8/27/2007 10:04:20 AM (3017 views)
Re: Please Pray - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
8/27/2007 11:24:20 AM (3084 views)
Re: Please Pray - Anita Backlund/MN
8/27/2007 11:40:59 AM (2915 views)
Re: Please Pray - Sandra Morton/KS
8/27/2007 12:28:10 PM (2978 views)
Attorney in my thoughts and prayers - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
8/27/2007 1:05:04 PM (2962 views)
Re: Please Pray - Joseph Weaver/VA
8/27/2007 2:29:41 PM (2936 views)
Re: Please Pray - Robert Franco/OH
8/27/2007 3:14:32 PM (2944 views)
Re: Please Pray - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/27/2007 7:15:56 PM (2983 views)
Re: Please Pray - Lori Cassidy/CT
8/27/2007 9:12:03 PM (2992 views)
Re: Please Pray - ELAINA MAUSER/DE
8/28/2007 10:12:05 AM (3077 views)

What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
8/24/2007 11:06:47 PM (3718 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 11:36:35 AM (2975 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Wendi See/SC
8/29/2007 1:26:58 PM (2790 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 8:29:12 PM (2881 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Scott Perry/PA
8/29/2007 9:29:52 PM (2902 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/29/2007 2:25:17 PM (2908 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 8:41:10 PM (2911 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/30/2007 9:53:18 AM (2949 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 10:46:20 AM (2926 views)

 

Katrina,

I have read your posts on this thread. It would appear that your argument fails to focus on the big picture. There are a number of players in the closing process...buyer...seller...mortgagee...title insurer...appraiser...abstractor. Each has a vital purpose in the closing process.


While the mortgagee may rely on the appraisal to determine issues such as the debt to equity ratio and will undoubtedly hedge its bet with title insurance...there is a difference between the appraised value of the property and marketable title. If the title to the property is heavily encumbered the appraisal is meaningless. The appraisal represents a best case scenario. The question remains as to whether there is sufficient equity in the property to back up the appraisal. The under appreciated roll that the abstractor plays determines whether the marketable title value and the appraisal coincide.

I had an amusing situation two weeks ago when a title insurance company called me about a closing I had performed a year and a half earlier. I did not do the title search on the property. Apparently the mortgagor applied for a reverse mortgage on the property and subsequently died. The mortgagee wanted title to the mortgaged property only to find that the mortgagor never held title to the property. He held only a life use of the property. Apparently someone screwed up. Either the abstractor failed to verify the chain of title...seems unlikely that an abstractor would miss something that basic...or the title insurance agent failed to pick up on the title when he issued the title insurance commitment...or the lender screwed up the closing docs. As usual the lender is protected seven ways to Sunday through the title insurance, and the title insurer is on the hook for the face value of the policy. The title insurer did not seem to think that the abstractor was at fault, but rather one of the other players.

I would also take issue with your above statement that the lender always has a first place priority. It depends on what lien or mortgage is being foreclosed. When one acquires a property through foreclosure sale or tax lien certificates...he is insane if he fails to perform a title search to discover the state of title. If the foreclosure is of a second mortgage...the buyer takes subject to the first mortgage which has priority. In Connecticut real estate taxes have an automatic priority over mortgages and liens, and would have to be paid notwithstanding the foreclosing financial institution's priority. There are also the issues of inchoate liens such as mechanic's liens which may not be recorded until 90 days (Connecticut rule) following completion of work, and thus may not show up on the record in a timely manner. The unrecorded mechanic's lien may predate the recording of the foreclosing entities lien/mortgage, but if recorded in a timely manner may predate and relate back to a date earlier than the priority of the foreclosing entity.

In Connecticut the Plaintiff in a foreclosure action is required to perform a title search to determine the encumbrances on the property. Those encumbrances that predate the priority of of the foreclosing entity are simply identified in the complaint as prior encumbrances. Those that are subsequent to the Plaintiff's priority are identified in the complaint as junior encumbrances, and are named as defendants in the foreclosure action.

In summary, the objective is to have the appraised value and marketable title value coincide for a property. If they do not someone...buyer...mortgagee or title insurer is going to be rather upset with the outcome. The seller could also be sued for breach of warranty. Without the abstractor's work marketable title can not be determined.

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Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/30/2007 1:34:50 PM (4288 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 1:48:49 PM (2924 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/30/2007 2:15:25 PM (2732 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 2:17:28 PM (2879 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Wendi See/SC
8/30/2007 11:33:00 AM (2945 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
8/30/2007 9:43:50 PM (2881 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - kristin sandman/IN
8/30/2007 10:49:32 PM (2828 views)
Should say "And Wendi" not Any Wendi, sorry n/m - Loretta Reed/MD
8/31/2007 9:37:07 AM (2820 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - george Hubka/MI
9/1/2007 9:49:36 PM (2727 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Norean /GA
9/1/2007 10:51:18 AM (2799 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/4/2007 12:47:50 PM (2783 views)

E & O Insurance - Katrina Harris/GA
8/24/2007 3:32:41 PM (2588 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Loretta Reed/MD
8/24/2007 4:38:49 PM (3156 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - george Hubka/MI
8/26/2007 9:20:56 AM (2959 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Jennifer  Porter/FL
8/28/2007 7:04:38 PM (2944 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 11:18:24 AM (2927 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Robert Franco/OH
8/29/2007 2:33:32 PM (2881 views)


Real Title Services


GDocs - power in numbers - Alix Ott/MI
8/24/2007 1:38:41 PM (2479 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - george Hubka/MI
8/26/2007 9:30:10 AM (3036 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - Alix Ott/MI
8/27/2007 11:57:03 AM (3082 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - clay doss/MO
8/28/2007 12:30:09 AM (2992 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - george Hubka/MI
8/28/2007 4:12:34 PM (3031 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 1:47:31 PM (2959 views)

Title Stream paid - Dan Zook/NY
8/24/2007 9:09:46 AM (1922 views)

Mortgage Industry Job Cuts Surpass 38,000 - Jay Duncan/MO
8/22/2007 5:57:51 PM (3776 views)
Re: Mortgage Industry Job Cuts Surpass 38,000 - George Booth/OH
8/23/2007 9:05:12 AM (2867 views)
Re: Mortgage Industry Job Cuts Surpass 38,000 - Jason Sheppard/PA
8/27/2007 11:17:46 AM (2920 views)

India warning - NoName/CA
8/22/2007 3:34:40 PM (2499 views)
Re: India warning - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/24/2007 3:51:56 AM (3151 views)

Home Owners Associations. - Nikky/FL
8/22/2007 12:42:35 PM (2301 views)
Re: Home Owners Associations. - Wendi See/SC
8/22/2007 1:07:41 PM (3086 views)
Re: Home Owners Associations. - Patrick Scott/IL
8/22/2007 1:35:23 PM (3333 views)
Re: Home Owners Associations. - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/22/2007 5:59:42 PM (3212 views)

Pacific Corporate & Title Services - Marc Cohen/MI
8/21/2007 4:59:19 PM (2474 views)
Re: Pacific Corporate & Title Services - Dan Zook/NY
8/22/2007 8:21:47 AM (3286 views)
Re: Pacific Corporate & Title Services - Alix Ott/MI
8/23/2007 6:44:28 PM (3170 views)
Re: Pacific Corporate & Title Services - Lori Cassidy/CT
8/27/2007 8:55:23 PM (3332 views)
Re: Pacific Corporate & Title Services - george Hubka/MI
8/28/2007 4:16:34 PM (3262 views)

Northwest Title & Escrow/ pmt - Jennifer  Porter/FL
8/21/2007 2:19:24 PM (2794 views)
Re: Northwest Title & Escrow/ pmt - Michele  Peele/NC
8/24/2007 5:17:38 PM (3329 views)
Re: Northwest Title & Escrow/ pmt - ELAINA MAUSER/DE
8/27/2007 12:49:25 PM (3123 views)

Attention Floridians! - Robert Franco/OH
8/21/2007 1:28:07 PM (2356 views)
Re: Attention Floridians! - Kurt deVries/FL
8/23/2007 1:35:37 PM (4810 views)
Can't spell 8th??? - Kurt deVries/FL
8/23/2007 1:37:30 PM (5092 views)
Re: Can't spell 8th??? - J Nisonger/CA
8/23/2007 2:19:56 PM (3160 views)
Re: Can't spell 8th??? - Robert Franco/OH
8/23/2007 2:36:22 PM (3163 views)
Re: Can't spell 8th??? - Kurt deVries/FL
8/24/2007 10:42:49 AM (3259 views)

Title Stream - Rebecca Warner/MI
8/21/2007 1:10:09 PM (2484 views)
Re: Title Stream - Wendi See/SC
8/21/2007 2:33:54 PM (3211 views)
Re: Title Stream - MARY ZILGE/NC
8/21/2007 5:10:46 PM (3337 views)
Re: Title Stream - Wendi See/SC
8/22/2007 1:09:57 PM (3250 views)
Re: Title Stream - Dan Zook/NY
8/22/2007 8:39:06 AM (3352 views)
Re: Title Stream - Amy Tatusko/VA
8/22/2007 9:40:00 AM (5069 views)
Re: Title Stream - Dan Zook/NY
8/22/2007 11:49:42 AM (3141 views)
Re: Title Stream - Langdon Knight/MO
8/22/2007 8:27:31 PM (3336 views)
Re: Title Stream - george Hubka/MI
8/26/2007 9:47:36 AM (3057 views)

INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Jill Kissell/IA
8/20/2007 2:04:25 PM (2914 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - KS/IN
8/20/2007 2:29:07 PM (4545 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/20/2007 6:53:15 PM (3177 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Anita Backlund/MN
8/20/2007 7:07:30 PM (3240 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Dan Zook/NY
8/21/2007 9:12:16 AM (3321 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Dorothy Payne/NY
8/21/2007 9:08:10 PM (3120 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Robert Franco/OH
8/22/2007 11:31:55 AM (3249 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Carol Drummet/FL
8/22/2007 2:33:57 PM (3141 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - george Hubka/MI
8/26/2007 9:50:22 AM (3237 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Anita Backlund/MN
8/27/2007 11:35:55 AM (3145 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Rob  Robinson/PA
8/27/2007 11:38:06 AM (3686 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Rob  Robinson/PA
8/27/2007 11:45:48 AM (3227 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Shannon Blatt/VA
8/27/2007 10:22:04 PM (3155 views)


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