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Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/8/2021 3:22:26 PM (2447 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Brandon ONeal/TN
4/8/2021 3:49:17 PM (2671 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Ron Beavers/FL
4/12/2021 10:29:02 AM (2497 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/12/2021 11:01:20 AM (2343 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - george Hubka/MI
4/12/2021 9:55:48 PM (2414 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Tempie Elder/GA
4/28/2021 10:33:43 AM (2301 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/28/2021 10:44:25 AM (2134 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Alix Ott/MI
5/3/2021 10:33:53 AM (2098 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Angela Sharp/CA
5/7/2021 6:46:17 AM (2269 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Serena Stout/VA
5/10/2021 9:01:34 AM (2230 views)

Thank you from ABN Legal Solutions - William Duncan/SC
4/4/2021 1:42:00 PM (2978 views)

PRO Act Bill - Jennifer Lawrence/AR
3/31/2021 7:37:46 PM (1469 views)

Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
3/31/2021 2:17:49 PM (2230 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - William Duncan/SC
4/1/2021 10:25:47 AM (2688 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Patrick Parrish/AL
4/1/2021 5:20:24 PM (2470 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
4/2/2021 8:22:04 AM (2479 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - george Hubka/MI
4/12/2021 9:59:21 PM (2362 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
4/20/2021 2:20:38 PM (2289 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - george Hubka/MI
4/20/2021 3:13:08 PM (2317 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Rita Killary/NY
8/27/2021 6:22:23 PM (1910 views)

So, think I should risk it? - Alix Ott/MI
3/31/2021 2:12:10 PM (2038 views)
Re: So, think I should risk it? - Brandon ONeal/TN
3/31/2021 11:11:51 PM (2367 views)




Remote Online Notary Vendors - Jeanine Johnson/MN
3/31/2021 11:24:43 AM (1692 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary Vendors - Becky Schweitzer/OH
4/5/2021 9:48:14 AM (2086 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary Vendors - Robert Franco/OH
4/5/2021 12:19:01 PM (1997 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary info - Jeanine Johnson/MN
4/5/2021 1:27:06 PM (2257 views)

Abstract Software - Tony Costa/LA
3/29/2021 9:45:32 AM (1464 views)

SiteSolutionsService: ...really!?... - William Duncan/SC
3/26/2021 10:46:12 AM (1363 views)

There: FIXED! - William Duncan/SC
3/25/2021 9:33:06 AM (1427 views)

Abstractor Pro software - Kurt deVries/FL
3/23/2021 2:55:25 PM (2508 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/23/2021 3:23:07 PM (2609 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Robb Grandon/MI
3/26/2021 6:24:14 PM (3004 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Kurt deVries/FL
3/29/2021 12:04:14 PM (2394 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
3/29/2021 1:20:28 PM (2519 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
2/11/2022 11:55:06 AM (1404 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Todd Camp/NJ
4/1/2021 3:08:30 PM (2376 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Andrew Trenary, Sr/OH
5/24/2021 11:00:10 AM (2315 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
6/4/2021 6:04:26 PM (2791 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Andrew Trenary, Sr/OH
6/20/2021 8:00:31 PM (2373 views)

...Really...? - William Duncan/SC
3/22/2021 4:01:06 PM (1995 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/22/2021 4:11:44 PM (2378 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Robert Franco/OH
3/23/2021 9:11:22 AM (2175 views)
Re: ...Really...? - William Duncan/SC
3/23/2021 9:32:31 AM (2232 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/23/2021 3:27:39 PM (2203 views)
Re: ...Really...? - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 4:31:50 PM (2252 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Judy Maclauchlan/LA
3/25/2021 10:22:25 AM (2133 views)

"Title theft" myth persists - Alix Ott/MI
3/17/2021 6:53:36 AM (2137 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Becky Schweitzer/OH
3/22/2021 9:58:58 AM (2792 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Kurt deVries/FL
3/22/2021 1:32:56 PM (2382 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/22/2021 2:19:13 PM (2354 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 4:40:23 PM (2351 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/23/2021 6:14:28 PM (2183 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 10:35:59 PM (2192 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/24/2021 12:26:20 PM (2187 views)
Again, if the general public starts searching their own properties, then there's no need for abstractors/searchers within the industry is what you are basically telling me.  

And, as an examiner, it's bad enough that there are "professional" searchers who miss deeds, easements, etc as is.  Heaven help us if the average Joe starts questioning professional services because they think they can DIY a 60 year property search.

Your job at stake, not mine   LOL  

The reality is that the "title theft" angle has to be an elaborate scheme set up by multiple parties in order to "steal" a deed.

And, as I mentioned before, if a homeowner received documentation stating they were being foreclosed on, why would they ignore it?

I was a witness to a case where a property was "sold" 4 times.  The first sale was legit to a point, with the Sellers being the actual sellers and took place in an attorney's office with me as the title witness closer only doing pick ups and marking up the binder.

The 3 subsequent "sales" were done within 5 days of the original closing.  Same "buyer" as the first closing.  Had a NJ DL for ID.  The subsequent "sellers" were ringers who looked very much like the real sellers, physically.

Apparently, a car dealership had been hacked and ID theft of all their clients.  Think about it, a dealership has the same info on a buyer, esp if they financed the car.  So name, ID, address, SS etc

The subsquent sales were conducted by attorneys.  The all accepted a "payoff" statement from the existing lender being paid off bc funds from the first transaction was wired to the bank.  However, that bank did not provide a ZERO BALANCE letter.  They accepted the old payoff statement only and did not question anything raised a red flag:

1. Why is the Seller paying off a mortgage that had been 6 months in arrears, just 2 days before closing?

2. Where did the Seller obtain funds, since they had not made a house payment in 6 months?

3. Where was proof and source of funds?

The list goes on and on.  The person whose Identity was stolen knew nothing about these transactions.  They were not against his property.  The theft ring used only his name and credit, but not his address.

So, he received notices that he was in foreclosure from 4 different banks on a property he had never owned.

Now, flip this entire idea back to a person who owns a property.  If you started receiving notices that your loan is behind, you would not question that if  A. You don't have a mortgage?  B. You have a mortgage but your payments are on time.

The premise of the "Title Theft" insurance is to make sure your deed is secure?  It's pretty unlikely that someone is going to just waltz in and make a copy of your deed to gain access to your info.  Your deed is signed by who you bought it from.  Your deed does not have your signature on it.

So, that means the thief would need to have a document with your signature on it.   Well, a mortgage would have the signature, sure.  But what if you don't have a mortgage?

Then you have to take the whole thing through the closing process.  So, the notary would have to be in on it, b/c they have to ID you, a bank/loan office would have to be in on it, since they take all your financials, the title agency would have to be in on it, b/c yes, we DO look at signatures to make sure they match documents, whoever is conducting the closing would have to be in on it, b/c they have to verify your source of funds, etc.

So in essence, it's not really that easy to create a bogus deed, obtain a new mortgage and close on it.  The standard risk protocols would question how the "new deed holder" came into title.

Title insurance manages the risk. 


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Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/24/2021 12:26:22 PM (2465 views)

Abstractor Watchdog - DEBRA ALLEN/KS
3/16/2021 11:46:52 AM (2658 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Alix Ott/MI
3/17/2021 6:44:14 AM (2624 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - John Baker/OH
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Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Sheila Sten/PA
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Re: Abstractor Watchdog - John Baker/OH
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Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Sheila Sten/PA
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Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Joyce Froelich/NM
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Re: Abstractor Watchdog - John Baker/OH
5/10/2021 9:23:41 AM (2119 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Sheila Sten/PA
5/17/2021 12:57:19 PM (1954 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - John Baker/OH
5/17/2021 1:15:42 PM (1964 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Sheila Sten/PA
5/17/2021 1:22:09 PM (2071 views)

Best resource for Solar/Oil&Gas? - William Duncan/CA
2/28/2021 1:22:49 PM (1738 views)
Re: Best resource for Solar/Oil&Gas? - Anita Backlund/MN
3/1/2021 12:29:41 PM (2330 views)
Re: Best resource for Solar/Oil&Gas? - William Duncan/CA
3/1/2021 12:42:40 PM (2380 views)
Re: Best resource for Solar/Oil&Gas? - Alix Ott/MI
3/17/2021 6:49:52 AM (2209 views)
Re: Best resource for Solar/Oil&Gas? - Alix Ott/MI
3/22/2021 8:13:18 AM (2060 views)
Re: Best resource for Solar/Oil&Gas? - Anita Backlund/MN
3/22/2021 2:31:51 PM (2154 views)

GOOD DAY - William Duncan/CA
2/23/2021 10:24:06 AM (2638 views)


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