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Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/31/2007 8:59:09 AM (2556 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - George Booth/OH
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Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Wendi See/SC
8/31/2007 6:51:57 PM (3198 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/1/2007 11:37:51 AM (3305 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/1/2007 8:18:32 AM (3358 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/1/2007 11:09:20 AM (3262 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Loretta Reed/MD
9/2/2007 12:13:42 PM (3303 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/2/2007 2:33:56 PM (3370 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Loretta Reed/MD
9/2/2007 5:14:54 PM (3327 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/2/2007 6:27:34 PM (3231 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - john franz/NJ
9/4/2007 3:39:08 PM (3260 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/3/2007 9:11:12 AM (3306 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/3/2007 11:43:09 AM (3262 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/4/2007 2:24:28 PM (3169 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/4/2007 9:19:45 PM (3186 views)

Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
8/30/2007 7:06:09 PM (2352 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - Robert Franco/OH
8/31/2007 1:26:14 PM (3346 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
9/1/2007 4:17:33 PM (3212 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/1/2007 6:17:16 PM (3187 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
9/2/2007 5:02:42 PM (3187 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - Chet Mazur/CA
9/4/2007 10:49:38 AM (3168 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - Chet Mazur/CA
9/4/2007 10:49:39 AM (3027 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
9/4/2007 11:47:45 PM (3077 views)

Question #1 Cell phones - J Nisonger/CA
8/30/2007 6:59:14 PM (2417 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - John Povejsil/MN
8/31/2007 12:12:06 PM (3383 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
8/31/2007 12:12:28 PM (3409 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - J Nisonger/CA
9/1/2007 4:34:41 PM (3162 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - Kurt deVries/FL
9/4/2007 1:07:46 PM (3296 views)

Kevin's Back! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/30/2007 2:55:56 PM (2476 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 3:48:18 PM (3347 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Scott Perry/PA
8/30/2007 5:01:34 PM (3368 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 5:51:44 PM (3365 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kurt deVries/FL
8/31/2007 1:16:08 PM (3442 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/31/2007 5:38:48 PM (3258 views)

Crying in my rootbeer - NoName/CA
8/30/2007 12:08:30 AM (2627 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Wendi See/SC
8/30/2007 11:39:56 AM (3406 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - SGL/MD
8/30/2007 12:30:03 PM (3445 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Wendi See/SC
8/30/2007 1:18:16 PM (3431 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - marilyn snyder/FL
8/30/2007 1:23:36 PM (3439 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - george Hubka/MI
9/1/2007 12:00:06 AM (3316 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Wendi See/SC
9/1/2007 12:09:43 PM (3339 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - WAYNE QUICK/NC
9/4/2007 8:57:59 PM (3208 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Jon Lax/RI
9/4/2007 9:43:46 PM (3377 views)




US TITLE CORP, KNOXVILLE - Wendi See/SC
8/29/2007 5:43:34 PM (2706 views)
Re: US TITLE CORP, KNOXVILLE - Vikki Moffitt/GA
8/30/2007 7:00:25 PM (3371 views)
Re: US TITLE CORP, KNOXVILLE - Victoria Ledford/TN
9/4/2007 10:40:15 AM (3292 views)

Deadbeats - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
8/27/2007 7:50:58 PM (3011 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
8/27/2007 7:52:42 PM (3785 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/27/2007 9:25:57 PM (3750 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Dan Zook/NY
8/29/2007 9:15:52 AM (3634 views)
Re: Deadbeats - george Hubka/MI
8/27/2007 7:56:52 PM (3721 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Things Fdup/CA
8/28/2007 9:49:53 PM (3850 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Laurie Puckett/TN
9/4/2007 8:32:45 AM (3466 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Greg/VA
9/4/2007 6:25:03 PM (3437 views)
Re: Deadbeats - george Hubka/MI
9/4/2007 6:32:04 PM (3439 views)
Re: Deadbeats - SandyB/NY
9/5/2007 4:34:04 PM (3519 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/5/2007 7:04:13 PM (3510 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Joseph Weaver/VA
9/6/2007 7:41:08 PM (3327 views)

How Crazy is Rhode Island? - Jacqueline Costa/RI
8/27/2007 5:10:55 PM (2758 views)
Re: How Crazy is Rhode Island? - Rob  Robinson/PA
8/28/2007 9:14:49 AM (3541 views)

Ohio Title Company Bankrupt - Robert Franco/OH
8/27/2007 12:45:34 PM (2222 views)

Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Jason Sheppard/PA
8/27/2007 10:58:38 AM (2696 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Rob  Robinson/PA
8/27/2007 11:47:34 AM (3671 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Victoria Ledford/TN
9/4/2007 10:43:57 AM (5177 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Robert Franco/OH
9/4/2007 1:08:33 PM (3578 views)

Great Vacation! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/26/2007 10:28:41 PM (1886 views)

Please Pray - Scott Perry/PA
8/26/2007 8:08:44 PM (2584 views)
Amen and get better soon. - Jay Duncan/MO
8/26/2007 9:00:27 PM (3857 views)
Re: Please Pray - Deborah Manion/VA
8/26/2007 10:19:00 PM (3690 views)
Re: Please Pray - Patrick Scott/IL
8/27/2007 9:56:23 AM (3587 views)
Re: Please Pray - Kurt deVries/FL
8/27/2007 10:04:20 AM (3632 views)
Re: Please Pray - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
8/27/2007 11:24:20 AM (3691 views)
Re: Please Pray - Anita Backlund/MN
8/27/2007 11:40:59 AM (3527 views)
Re: Please Pray - Sandra Morton/KS
8/27/2007 12:28:10 PM (3599 views)
Attorney in my thoughts and prayers - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
8/27/2007 1:05:04 PM (3578 views)
Re: Please Pray - Joseph Weaver/VA
8/27/2007 2:29:41 PM (3546 views)
Re: Please Pray - Robert Franco/OH
8/27/2007 3:14:32 PM (3545 views)
Re: Please Pray - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/27/2007 7:15:56 PM (3574 views)
Re: Please Pray - Lori Cassidy/CT
8/27/2007 9:12:03 PM (3634 views)
Re: Please Pray - ELAINA MAUSER/DE
8/28/2007 10:12:05 AM (3714 views)

What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
8/24/2007 11:06:47 PM (3886 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 11:36:35 AM (3563 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Wendi See/SC
8/29/2007 1:26:58 PM (3401 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 8:29:12 PM (3507 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Scott Perry/PA
8/29/2007 9:29:52 PM (3513 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/29/2007 2:25:17 PM (3519 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 8:41:10 PM (3478 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/30/2007 9:53:18 AM (3540 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 10:46:20 AM (3558 views)

 

Katrina,

I have read your posts on this thread. It would appear that your argument fails to focus on the big picture. There are a number of players in the closing process...buyer...seller...mortgagee...title insurer...appraiser...abstractor. Each has a vital purpose in the closing process.


While the mortgagee may rely on the appraisal to determine issues such as the debt to equity ratio and will undoubtedly hedge its bet with title insurance...there is a difference between the appraised value of the property and marketable title. If the title to the property is heavily encumbered the appraisal is meaningless. The appraisal represents a best case scenario. The question remains as to whether there is sufficient equity in the property to back up the appraisal. The under appreciated roll that the abstractor plays determines whether the marketable title value and the appraisal coincide.

I had an amusing situation two weeks ago when a title insurance company called me about a closing I had performed a year and a half earlier. I did not do the title search on the property. Apparently the mortgagor applied for a reverse mortgage on the property and subsequently died. The mortgagee wanted title to the mortgaged property only to find that the mortgagor never held title to the property. He held only a life use of the property. Apparently someone screwed up. Either the abstractor failed to verify the chain of title...seems unlikely that an abstractor would miss something that basic...or the title insurance agent failed to pick up on the title when he issued the title insurance commitment...or the lender screwed up the closing docs. As usual the lender is protected seven ways to Sunday through the title insurance, and the title insurer is on the hook for the face value of the policy. The title insurer did not seem to think that the abstractor was at fault, but rather one of the other players.

I would also take issue with your above statement that the lender always has a first place priority. It depends on what lien or mortgage is being foreclosed. When one acquires a property through foreclosure sale or tax lien certificates...he is insane if he fails to perform a title search to discover the state of title. If the foreclosure is of a second mortgage...the buyer takes subject to the first mortgage which has priority. In Connecticut real estate taxes have an automatic priority over mortgages and liens, and would have to be paid notwithstanding the foreclosing financial institution's priority. There are also the issues of inchoate liens such as mechanic's liens which may not be recorded until 90 days (Connecticut rule) following completion of work, and thus may not show up on the record in a timely manner. The unrecorded mechanic's lien may predate the recording of the foreclosing entities lien/mortgage, but if recorded in a timely manner may predate and relate back to a date earlier than the priority of the foreclosing entity.

In Connecticut the Plaintiff in a foreclosure action is required to perform a title search to determine the encumbrances on the property. Those encumbrances that predate the priority of of the foreclosing entity are simply identified in the complaint as prior encumbrances. Those that are subsequent to the Plaintiff's priority are identified in the complaint as junior encumbrances, and are named as defendants in the foreclosure action.

In summary, the objective is to have the appraised value and marketable title value coincide for a property. If they do not someone...buyer...mortgagee or title insurer is going to be rather upset with the outcome. The seller could also be sued for breach of warranty. Without the abstractor's work marketable title can not be determined.

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Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/30/2007 1:34:50 PM (4863 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/30/2007 2:15:25 PM (3354 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Wendi See/SC
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Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - kristin sandman/IN
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Should say "And Wendi" not Any Wendi, sorry n/m - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - george Hubka/MI
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Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Norean /GA
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Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/4/2007 12:47:50 PM (3411 views)

E & O Insurance - Katrina Harris/GA
8/24/2007 3:32:41 PM (2750 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: E & O Insurance - george Hubka/MI
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Re: E & O Insurance - Jennifer  Porter/FL
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Re: E & O Insurance - Katrina Harris/GA
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Re: E & O Insurance - Robert Franco/OH
8/29/2007 2:33:32 PM (3470 views)

GDocs - power in numbers - Alix Ott/MI
8/24/2007 1:38:41 PM (2638 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - george Hubka/MI
8/26/2007 9:30:10 AM (3604 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - Alix Ott/MI
8/27/2007 11:57:03 AM (3650 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - clay doss/MO
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Re: GDocs - power in numbers - george Hubka/MI
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