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Courthouse Searchers, Inc. - Kristi Lee/NE
9/4/2007 11:57:54 AM (2788 views)
Re: Courthouse Searchers, Inc. - Helene /GA
9/10/2007 9:22:59 PM (3252 views)

Residential Title Services - Scott Aduddell/MO
9/3/2007 1:05:26 PM (2951 views)
Re: Residential Title Services - Gone - Jay Duncan/MO
9/3/2007 3:28:38 PM (3593 views)
Re: Residential Title Services - Gone - M.C./ME
9/3/2007 10:52:53 PM (3516 views)
Re: Residential Title Services - Gone - Rod Hefner/KS
9/4/2007 7:44:31 AM (3566 views)
Re: Residential Title Services - Gone - Scott Aduddell/MO
9/4/2007 11:22:15 AM (3489 views)
Re: Residential Title Services - Aneza Abalo/PA
9/10/2007 2:01:59 PM (3417 views)

Office Depot - Catalog - Carla Curry/KY
9/2/2007 11:38:56 AM (2665 views)
Re: Office Depot - Catalog - Robert Franco/OH
9/2/2007 6:27:00 PM (3409 views)

Okay guys....here's a question for you - Loretta Reed/MD
9/1/2007 10:04:01 PM (2799 views)
Re: Okay guys....here's a question for you - Jay Duncan/MO
9/1/2007 11:31:24 PM (3488 views)
Re: Okay guys....here's a question for you - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/2/2007 7:27:50 AM (3302 views)
Re: Okay guys....here's a question for you - Loretta Reed/MD
9/2/2007 9:55:27 AM (3349 views)
Re: Okay guys....here's a question for you - Victoria Ledford/TN
9/4/2007 10:48:18 AM (3343 views)
Re: Okay guys....here's a question for you - Loretta Reed/MD
9/4/2007 1:51:02 PM (4812 views)
Re: Okay guys....here's a question for you - Seth Levine/MD
9/4/2007 3:36:10 PM (3355 views)
Re: Okay guys....here's a question for you - Loretta Reed/MD
9/4/2007 4:41:01 PM (3299 views)

Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Melissa Champine/ME
8/31/2007 4:03:30 PM (2867 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Wendi See/SC
8/31/2007 6:30:09 PM (3540 views)
Melissa, my husband and I are fabulously happy!!  Yes, we've had a few companies that wanted us to lower our fees and yes, two have stiffed us, BUT we paid out more money last year in wages to our employees than he and we EVER collectively made having a JOB.  Meaning, we are doing fantastic. 

Here are my suggestions:

Taking the class isn't going to prepare you to be INDEPENDENT.  You REALLY need to work for someone for several months (6 mos to a year) before striking out on your own. 

Also, without 2-3 years experience as an abstractor, you will find it very difficult to get insurance, much less a decent rate.  That requirement in itself should tell you something---the insurance companies know what we know---you can't just take a course or spend a few days being trained and imagine you know how to do a title search.  Case in point, I had an employee who came to me from a paralegal program.  She had in fact already taken the abstracting course and yes, she also went to the courthouse.  After 8 months, I had to let her go because I could NEVER break her of the bad habits and wrong info she had acquired in that class.  Taught, BTW, by a retired attorney.  Most folks think that just because they have passed the bar, that all attorneys know real estate.  Not true, unless they have chosen to pursue that area of law as a career or gone to a good general education law school, they have only 2-3 semesters of Real Estate Law.  Unless they choose to specialize in their final few semesters, they only get an overview of wetlands and coastal law which I deal with here in SC daily.  My point, forget the class. 

Now, I don't want to discourage you, because quite frankly, I was impressed with your post.  Unlike some who have posted here over the last two years that I have been here, you actually sound like you want to do this for love of the work--not because you saw some book about the 101 Best Ways to Make Money from Home with a Computer.  So I will offer some suggestions on what to do if you DO decide to pursue it.

Rule # 1:  NEVER, ever, even on threat of death do you lower your fees!  ONLY offer incentives to clients who have proved themselves WORTHY (i.e. steady work, reasonable expectations, and timely payments).  Example, I have a wonderful client who thinks I walk on water :)  I do!  She sends me work everyday, always in the same county.  So when I hired a full time abstractor to service just that county and I wasn't personally driving there, I called her up and lowered my trip fee to that county (just for HER and just for that county).  Other good clients don't always get charged for document retrievals if I'm there anyway or I don't charge THEM the trip fee if I'm going anyway for someone else.  In that way, I practice good customer service, but only to those who value my work.

Have a decent turn-around time, but don't except unreasonable expectations forced on you by clients.  They only get it when it's RIGHT.  If they'd rather have it QUICK--send them on down the road.

Use EMAIL, don't fax reports.  First, you need to scan them anyway no matter what method you use, but if they don't receive it correctly (which 9 out of 10 of them will claim), you have to take your valuable time to re-fax it.  Emailing is wonderful.  Even if they call and "didn't get it", you can resend with the click of a button.  Plus, there aren't any added charges for long-distance.

DON'T give out your cell phone number until they become good clients.  If they won't give you work unless they can contact you--that means they frequently cancel orders, will call you asking status until your head explodes or they always need everything "super-rush"ed. 

DON'T hand write your reports.  I have seen many, many a hand-written report and they always look unprofessional.  Type them!  Or create a database form on your computer. 

If a company contacts you and they 1) have ridiculously low fees, 2) want you to do a complimentary sample search first before they will use you, 3) want YOU to pay for the "leads" they are giving you, 4) want you to fill out THEIR forms, 5) want it in 2 hours, 6) have as their only hiring criteria price and turn-around time, and 7) want unreasonable add-ons to simple searches (i.e. a current owner search that you have to check the grantors, which makes it a two-owner search)--send them packing!  Yes, you WANT work, and yes, some areas of the country are slow right now, but I'd much rather spend the slow times getting my name out there, then running around doing searches I'm going to make $5.00 on and be stuck with these bozos when the market picks back up.  Those good, valuable clients out there that DON'T know about me and WON'T  know about me unless I tell them will be using someone else when the market picks up---I needs to be me. (in the case, you).

Keep CLOSE track of who owes you money!  Giving a discount for volume work that you have to spend hours getting paid for means you aren't making a damn nickel. 

The easiest way to keep from being owed money is to, first, choose good clients.  I always market to attorneys first, THEN title companies.  Attorneys are usually a better bet since they have to balance their trust accounts and have to abide by professional ethics.  When title companies contact you, vet them here on SOT.  Also, if they send you ALOT of work right away without seeing whether you are a good abstractor or not, take a breath--that always makes me question who they were last using.  Was that person so inept that using a brand new abstractor is better?   Probably not, unless you KNOW who they were using and you ARE better.  Most likely, they ran up a bill with the other person and got cut off.

You need to begin your business knowing it IS a business, not a hobby and not something you do from home.  In that way, you START by valuing your work, while competitively, a least commiserate with your professionalism.  All work is not good work or even profitable work.  If you undercut just to get work, the only person you are really undercutting is yourself, because when the county increases copy fees or they start charging for parking or the price of gas goes up, or (more likely) that company finds someone even cheaper than you, you don't have a profit margin to cover it. 

Finally, YOU have to decide which clients you want to work for.  Yes, you WANT to get new clients, but no matter how nice they are or what they promise you in return for some consideration, only YOU have to live, clothe, feed and shelter yourself on their fees, so if it isn't satisfactory or the expectations are too unreasonable, dump them.  I'd much rather spend an afternoon marketing than going to the courthouse to do a search for someone who thinks a monkey could do my job just as well as I can, who calls me every hour to "check status" and who stiffs me on copies after I "rush" that search right back to them.

Yes, we grumble on here sometimes.  Thankfully, we have this place where others understand our gripes so we can vent.  But we all love what we do and if you watch the board really close, most often you will find that when someone is crying foul about the things you listed in your post--they generally brought it on themselves by not valuing themselves high enough and not running their businesses with a business mindset.

And last but absolutely not least, when you go independent, get a one page website with a professional domain name, so your email address is melissa@melissascompany.com, then immediately join NALTEA and list your business here.

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Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - george Hubka/MI
8/31/2007 11:38:23 PM (3558 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Melissa Champine/ME
9/1/2007 2:52:01 AM (3427 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - ks/IN
9/1/2007 8:54:07 AM (3482 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Loretta Reed/MD
9/1/2007 9:00:18 AM (3435 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - ks/IN
9/1/2007 12:18:35 PM (3288 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Wendi See/SC
9/1/2007 11:42:32 AM (3268 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - M.C./ME
9/2/2007 12:57:00 AM (3386 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Loretta Reed/MD
9/2/2007 10:07:17 AM (3456 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Melissa Champine/ME
9/2/2007 10:32:23 AM (3390 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - ks/IN
9/2/2007 11:51:44 AM (3470 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Melissa Champine/ME
9/2/2007 6:50:34 PM (3418 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Rob  Robinson/PA
9/4/2007 9:11:26 AM (3228 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Melissa Champine/ME
9/5/2007 11:44:30 PM (3333 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Victoria Ledford/TN
9/4/2007 11:04:09 AM (4893 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - John Clifford Brewer/VA
9/4/2007 10:46:49 PM (3469 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Barry Campbell/NY
9/4/2007 12:02:52 PM (3425 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - george Hubka/MI
9/4/2007 6:27:36 PM (3448 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Barry Campbell/NY
9/5/2007 1:00:54 AM (3360 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Melissa Champine/ME
9/5/2007 11:50:48 PM (3286 views)




Proposals aimed at helping those with risky mortgages keep their homes. - Jay Duncan/MO
8/31/2007 2:14:48 PM (3416 views)

Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/31/2007 8:59:09 AM (2586 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - George Booth/OH
8/31/2007 10:04:12 AM (3436 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kurt deVries/FL
8/31/2007 1:23:42 PM (3499 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Wendi See/SC
8/31/2007 6:51:57 PM (3328 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/1/2007 11:37:51 AM (3423 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/4/2007 1:32:54 PM (3327 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/1/2007 8:18:32 AM (3462 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/1/2007 11:09:20 AM (3386 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Loretta Reed/MD
9/2/2007 12:13:42 PM (3429 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/2/2007 2:33:56 PM (3486 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Loretta Reed/MD
9/2/2007 5:14:54 PM (3443 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/2/2007 6:27:34 PM (3346 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - john franz/NJ
9/4/2007 3:39:08 PM (3385 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/3/2007 9:11:12 AM (3424 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/3/2007 11:43:09 AM (3388 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/4/2007 2:24:28 PM (3286 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/4/2007 9:19:45 PM (3301 views)

Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
8/30/2007 7:06:09 PM (2376 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - Robert Franco/OH
8/31/2007 1:26:14 PM (3447 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
9/1/2007 4:17:33 PM (3318 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/1/2007 6:17:16 PM (3286 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
9/2/2007 5:02:42 PM (3281 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - Chet Mazur/CA
9/4/2007 10:49:38 AM (3260 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - Chet Mazur/CA
9/4/2007 10:49:39 AM (3124 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
9/4/2007 11:47:45 PM (3177 views)

Question #1 Cell phones - J Nisonger/CA
8/30/2007 6:59:14 PM (2441 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - John Povejsil/MN
8/31/2007 12:12:06 PM (3501 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
8/31/2007 12:12:28 PM (3564 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - J Nisonger/CA
9/1/2007 4:34:41 PM (3285 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - Kurt deVries/FL
9/4/2007 1:07:46 PM (3416 views)

Kevin's Back! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/30/2007 2:55:56 PM (2496 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 3:48:18 PM (3444 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Scott Perry/PA
8/30/2007 5:01:34 PM (3483 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 5:51:44 PM (3475 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kurt deVries/FL
8/31/2007 1:16:08 PM (3558 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/31/2007 5:38:48 PM (3363 views)

Crying in my rootbeer - NoName/CA
8/30/2007 12:08:30 AM (2643 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Wendi See/SC
8/30/2007 11:39:56 AM (3502 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - SGL/MD
8/30/2007 12:30:03 PM (3539 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Wendi See/SC
8/30/2007 1:18:16 PM (3532 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - marilyn snyder/FL
8/30/2007 1:23:36 PM (3526 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - george Hubka/MI
9/1/2007 12:00:06 AM (3409 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Wendi See/SC
9/1/2007 12:09:43 PM (3431 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - WAYNE QUICK/NC
9/4/2007 8:57:59 PM (3308 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Jon Lax/RI
9/4/2007 9:43:46 PM (3483 views)

US TITLE CORP, KNOXVILLE - Wendi See/SC
8/29/2007 5:43:34 PM (2723 views)
Re: US TITLE CORP, KNOXVILLE - Vikki Moffitt/GA
8/30/2007 7:00:25 PM (3465 views)
Re: US TITLE CORP, KNOXVILLE - Victoria Ledford/TN
9/4/2007 10:40:15 AM (3372 views)

Deadbeats - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
8/27/2007 7:50:58 PM (3035 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
8/27/2007 7:52:42 PM (3881 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/27/2007 9:25:57 PM (3857 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Dan Zook/NY
8/29/2007 9:15:52 AM (3731 views)
Re: Deadbeats - george Hubka/MI
8/27/2007 7:56:52 PM (3816 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Things Fdup/CA
8/28/2007 9:49:53 PM (3945 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Laurie Puckett/TN
9/4/2007 8:32:45 AM (3568 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Greg/VA
9/4/2007 6:25:03 PM (3539 views)
Re: Deadbeats - george Hubka/MI
9/4/2007 6:32:04 PM (3540 views)
Re: Deadbeats - SandyB/NY
9/5/2007 4:34:04 PM (3601 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/5/2007 7:04:13 PM (3627 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Joseph Weaver/VA
9/6/2007 7:41:08 PM (3427 views)

How Crazy is Rhode Island? - Jacqueline Costa/RI
8/27/2007 5:10:55 PM (2771 views)
Re: How Crazy is Rhode Island? - Rob  Robinson/PA
8/28/2007 9:14:49 AM (3634 views)

Ohio Title Company Bankrupt - Robert Franco/OH
8/27/2007 12:45:34 PM (2251 views)


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