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Title Stream - Tempie Elder/TX
7/26/2007 2:14:33 PM (2805 views)
Re: Title Stream - Wendi See/SC
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Re: Title Stream - Robert Franco/OH
7/26/2007 3:15:48 PM (5872 views)
Re: Title Stream - Lois & Glen Morgan/TN
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Re: Title Stream - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Title Stream - Lori Cassidy/CT
7/30/2007 10:22:59 AM (2912 views)
Re: Title Stream - Dan Zook/NY
7/27/2007 10:36:54 AM (2993 views)
Re: Title Stream - Loretta Reed/MD
7/30/2007 10:49:58 AM (2810 views)
Re: Title Stream - J Nisonger/CA
8/3/2007 12:08:39 PM (2797 views)
Re: Title Stream - Loretta Reed/MD
8/3/2007 12:20:54 PM (2759 views)
Re: Title Stream - J Nisonger/CA
8/3/2007 1:17:00 PM (2942 views)
Re: Title Stream - Shannon Blatt/VA
8/4/2007 4:14:51 PM (2871 views)
Re: Title Stream - Victoria Ledford/TN
8/6/2007 8:46:15 AM (4564 views)
Re: Title Stream - Wendi See/SC
8/6/2007 7:46:51 PM (2857 views)
Re: Title Stream - Laura Darby/OH
7/9/2008 12:41:02 PM (2806 views)
Title Stream - Becky Wingert /TX
7/30/2007 1:59:40 PM (2869 views)

NALTEA Benefits - Jay Duncan/MO
7/26/2007 8:45:54 AM (2470 views)
What other benefits would you like to see? - Jay Duncan/MO
8/7/2007 4:53:20 PM (2823 views)
Re: What other benefits would you like to see? - J Nisonger/CA
8/7/2007 7:25:30 PM (2920 views)
Re: What other benefits would you like to see? - Jay Duncan/MO
8/7/2007 10:36:00 PM (2801 views)

Three Arch Capital in CA - Jean Allen/NC
7/25/2007 8:21:39 PM (2629 views)
Re: Three Arch Capital in CA - Dan Zook/NY
7/26/2007 2:35:56 PM (2922 views)
Re: Three Arch Capital in CA - Jean Allen/NC
8/2/2007 10:58:01 PM (2747 views)
Re: Three Arch Capital in CA - Jean Allen/NC
8/15/2007 6:12:38 PM (2820 views)

RELS Abstract - Brad McCollom/IN
7/25/2007 8:08:52 PM (2666 views)
Re: RELS Abstract - george Hubka/MI
7/26/2007 9:20:38 PM (2974 views)
Re: RELS Abstract - Jill Kissell/IA
8/2/2007 10:37:50 PM (2917 views)

NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/25/2007 5:40:58 PM (2290 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 6:51:04 PM (3034 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 6:56:49 PM (3140 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:02:19 PM (3208 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:07:27 PM (3045 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:10:54 PM (3006 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:14:36 PM (2978 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:23:33 PM (3110 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:28:05 PM (3030 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:32:34 PM (3000 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:34:10 PM (2974 views)
Re: Uh...er...ahem - Patrick Scott/IL
7/25/2007 9:11:16 PM (3032 views)
Re: Uh...er...ahem - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 9:22:44 PM (2940 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/26/2007 11:46:38 AM (2897 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/26/2007 11:57:54 AM (2944 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2007 8:43:58 PM (2997 views)

Bravo Wanda!  You stated that very well.  I don't know why Mr. Ahern isn't complaining that ALTA hasn't yet chartered a bank so they could sell mortgages and refer work to their title company members. He simply misses the point of a "professional association."  No matter how well, and how simply, you explain it to him - he just isn't capable of understanding.

No matter how many times we tell people that we have spent many hours working on group discounts on E&O and health care premiums, people like Mr. Ahern just won't understand that those insurance companies aren't interested in offering such benefits until we have enough members to make it worth their while.  That seems to be a problem, as those like Mr. Ahern won't support NALTEA until those benefits are obtained - that is the "catch-22" that perplexes him so much.

Why he thinks that NALTEA has, or ever will have, the ability to "force" VMC's to send more work to particular individuals, or pay them more money when the competition is cheaper, is something that nobody but he will ever understand.  All a professional association can do, and what NALTEA does, is promote the importance of the role of the abstractor.  It's all about educating the clients, and the abstractors, so that they have a reason to "want to change" the status quo.  Unless someone forgot to tell me about it, there is no magic wand that NALTEA can waive to instantly produce huge profits for abstractors.

You are right that Mr. Ahern likes to argue, but he will never be a great litigator.  Litigation isn't about arguing - its about persuasion.  Pointing to a few unrealistic expectations and saying, "why haven't you don't this for me," doesn't rise to the level of litigation.  I don't think it's even an argument - its quite simply whining.

Perhaps he has not seen NALTEA's mission statement:

“To foster better understanding between the membership and others involved in the title profession, to provide information and education to the membership and others, and to assist the members in providing quality service to their clients.”

(No where in there is "obtain more work for the abstractors that they can charge higher fees for completing.)

Or NALTEA's stated objectives:

  • To establish and maintain uniform standards and practices for the profession of land records abstracting by setting forth guidelines for training, experience and ethical conduct.
  • To foster better relationships among title examiners/abstractors and those whom they serve, i.e., title insurers, lending institutions, attorneys and other land title professionals.
  • To provide information and education to the membership of the Association; to members of local, state and federal legislatures having jurisdiction over the land title industry; to consumers; and to businesses engaging in the transfer of ownership interests in real estate.
  • To promote understanding and awareness of the importance of the proper examination, abstracting and reporting of land title records.

(Again, no mention of "making sure that abstractors can make a bigger profit.")

I don't know where he got the idea that NALTEA was going to deliver more work to our members' fax machines.  The purpose isn't to run our members' businesses, I trust they are quite capable of doing that themselves.  Rather, the purpose is to educate, inform, and promote.  Generally to improve the industry - not Mr. Ahern's bank account.  Which NALTEA member promised him that? 

I don't know what professional associations Mr. Ahern belongs to, or which ones would have him, but if one of them is just mailing him money every month, I'd like to join too. 

Thanks again, Wanda.  You are quite right.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 10:10:26 PM (2851 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Smitty Strickland/SC
8/3/2007 7:19:54 PM (2953 views)


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real advantage - marilyn snyder/FL
7/25/2007 3:49:45 PM (2665 views)
Re: real advantage - ANDREW MOLLER/CT
7/26/2007 6:28:56 AM (2987 views)
Re: real advantage - Victoria Ledford/TN
8/6/2007 8:48:32 AM (4777 views)

Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - don  sedy/NY
7/24/2007 10:54:29 PM (3195 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/25/2007 11:40:17 AM (3352 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 11:49:01 AM (3271 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Wendi See/SC
7/25/2007 12:02:21 PM (3354 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Julie Jasiunas/WI
7/25/2007 12:40:22 PM (3240 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2007 1:18:46 PM (3139 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/25/2007 4:28:39 PM (3120 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2007 4:38:19 PM (3241 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/25/2007 5:29:52 PM (3211 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Kim Cowles/WI
7/25/2007 5:05:07 PM (3184 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/25/2007 6:30:40 PM (3193 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - george Hubka/MI
7/31/2007 3:08:04 AM (2925 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - KS/IN
7/25/2007 9:27:52 PM (3082 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Kim Cowles/WI
7/28/2007 9:45:55 AM (3042 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Lisa Gilliam/TN
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Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - David Shouse/GA
7/31/2007 12:55:05 PM (2918 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Denald McCarthy/MA
8/1/2007 7:21:07 PM (2931 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Andre Thomas/AZ
8/8/2007 3:56:54 PM (2954 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/8/2007 5:04:07 PM (2962 views)

Talk to me New Hampshire people.... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/24/2007 7:15:15 PM (2318 views)
Re: Talk to me New Hampshire people.... - Amy Sandler Komisarek/NH
7/30/2007 8:30:47 AM (2936 views)
Re: Talk to me New Hampshire people.... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/30/2007 9:04:48 AM (2943 views)

JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - KS/IN
7/24/2007 4:29:50 PM (2753 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - Robert Franco/OH
7/24/2007 4:48:40 PM (5050 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/25/2007 4:37:08 PM (3112 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - george Hubka/MI
7/26/2007 9:50:52 PM (3068 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
7/28/2007 9:41:33 AM (3006 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - J Nisonger/CA
7/29/2007 11:51:05 PM (2935 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - george Hubka/MI
7/31/2007 3:12:57 AM (2901 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - J Nisonger/CA
8/1/2007 9:16:37 PM (2952 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - george Hubka/MI
8/2/2007 9:41:00 PM (2864 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/6/2007 6:49:48 AM (2980 views)
KS Please read: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - J Nisonger/CA
8/7/2007 7:23:00 PM (3093 views)
Re: KS Please read: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/9/2007 6:53:11 AM (2957 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/6/2007 6:47:02 AM (2982 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/6/2007 6:44:37 AM (3042 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - Lori Cassidy/CT
8/13/2007 9:27:42 PM (2971 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/14/2007 5:37:33 PM (2813 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/14/2007 5:38:58 PM (2894 views)

payment history - WAYNE QUICK/NC
7/23/2007 7:53:10 PM (2693 views)
Re: payment history - Joseph Weaver/VA
7/23/2007 10:26:54 PM (2915 views)
Re: payment history - Bill Jones/NJ
7/24/2007 11:29:49 AM (2814 views)
Re: payment history - David Shouse/GA
7/24/2007 6:23:38 PM (2977 views)
Re: payment history - george Hubka/MI
7/31/2007 3:15:21 AM (2849 views)
Re: payment history - Langdon Knight/MO
7/31/2007 12:41:58 AM (2926 views)

Abstractor Count and State Licensing - Lynn Hammett/SC
7/23/2007 6:46:06 PM (1830 views)

Just for the sake of debate... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/23/2007 3:17:56 PM (2453 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Robert Breakell/CT
7/23/2007 4:41:28 PM (3028 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/24/2007 10:32:22 AM (2755 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Just for the sake of debate... - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Just for the sake of debate... - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Just for the sake of debate... - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Just for the sake of debate... - george Hubka/MI
7/23/2007 7:43:05 PM (2816 views)

U.S. Land Title - Kurt deVries/FL
7/23/2007 1:49:24 PM (2524 views)
Re: U.S. Land Title - David Nixon/MA
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Re: U.S. Land Title - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/26/2007 5:08:20 PM (2922 views)

Help please..... - Lynn Hammett/SC
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Re: Help please..... - Carol Walker/AZ
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Re: Help please..... - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Help please..... - Janis Talbot/SC
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Title Stream Info - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/20/2007 10:46:53 PM (2870 views)
Re: Title Stream Info - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
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Re: Title Stream Info - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Title Stream Info - James Powell/MI
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Re: Title Stream Info - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: Title Stream Info - Tempie Elder/TX
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