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Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Jason Sheppard/PA
8/27/2007 10:58:38 AM (2734 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Rob  Robinson/PA
8/27/2007 11:47:34 AM (3782 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Victoria Ledford/TN
9/4/2007 10:43:57 AM (5299 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Robert Franco/OH
9/4/2007 1:08:33 PM (3685 views)

Great Vacation! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/26/2007 10:28:41 PM (1912 views)

Please Pray - Scott Perry/PA
8/26/2007 8:08:44 PM (2623 views)
Amen and get better soon. - Jay Duncan/MO
8/26/2007 9:00:27 PM (3994 views)
Re: Please Pray - Deborah Manion/VA
8/26/2007 10:19:00 PM (3863 views)
Re: Please Pray - Patrick Scott/IL
8/27/2007 9:56:23 AM (3739 views)
Re: Please Pray - Kurt deVries/FL
8/27/2007 10:04:20 AM (3782 views)
Re: Please Pray - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
8/27/2007 11:24:20 AM (3866 views)
Re: Please Pray - Anita Backlund/MN
8/27/2007 11:40:59 AM (3695 views)
Re: Please Pray - Sandra Morton/KS
8/27/2007 12:28:10 PM (3759 views)
Attorney in my thoughts and prayers - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
8/27/2007 1:05:04 PM (3734 views)
Re: Please Pray - Joseph Weaver/VA
8/27/2007 2:29:41 PM (3711 views)
Re: Please Pray - Robert Franco/OH
8/27/2007 3:14:32 PM (3687 views)
Re: Please Pray - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/27/2007 7:15:56 PM (3735 views)
Re: Please Pray - Lori Cassidy/CT
8/27/2007 9:12:03 PM (3795 views)
Re: Please Pray - ELAINA MAUSER/DE
8/28/2007 10:12:05 AM (3874 views)

What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
8/24/2007 11:06:47 PM (3944 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 11:36:35 AM (3738 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Wendi See/SC
8/29/2007 1:26:58 PM (3567 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 8:29:12 PM (3692 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Scott Perry/PA
8/29/2007 9:29:52 PM (3675 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/29/2007 2:25:17 PM (3682 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 8:41:10 PM (3654 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/30/2007 9:53:18 AM (3705 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 10:46:20 AM (3727 views)

 

Katrina,

I have read your posts on this thread. It would appear that your argument fails to focus on the big picture. There are a number of players in the closing process...buyer...seller...mortgagee...title insurer...appraiser...abstractor. Each has a vital purpose in the closing process.


While the mortgagee may rely on the appraisal to determine issues such as the debt to equity ratio and will undoubtedly hedge its bet with title insurance...there is a difference between the appraised value of the property and marketable title. If the title to the property is heavily encumbered the appraisal is meaningless. The appraisal represents a best case scenario. The question remains as to whether there is sufficient equity in the property to back up the appraisal. The under appreciated roll that the abstractor plays determines whether the marketable title value and the appraisal coincide.

I had an amusing situation two weeks ago when a title insurance company called me about a closing I had performed a year and a half earlier. I did not do the title search on the property. Apparently the mortgagor applied for a reverse mortgage on the property and subsequently died. The mortgagee wanted title to the mortgaged property only to find that the mortgagor never held title to the property. He held only a life use of the property. Apparently someone screwed up. Either the abstractor failed to verify the chain of title...seems unlikely that an abstractor would miss something that basic...or the title insurance agent failed to pick up on the title when he issued the title insurance commitment...or the lender screwed up the closing docs. As usual the lender is protected seven ways to Sunday through the title insurance, and the title insurer is on the hook for the face value of the policy. The title insurer did not seem to think that the abstractor was at fault, but rather one of the other players.

I would also take issue with your above statement that the lender always has a first place priority. It depends on what lien or mortgage is being foreclosed. When one acquires a property through foreclosure sale or tax lien certificates...he is insane if he fails to perform a title search to discover the state of title. If the foreclosure is of a second mortgage...the buyer takes subject to the first mortgage which has priority. In Connecticut real estate taxes have an automatic priority over mortgages and liens, and would have to be paid notwithstanding the foreclosing financial institution's priority. There are also the issues of inchoate liens such as mechanic's liens which may not be recorded until 90 days (Connecticut rule) following completion of work, and thus may not show up on the record in a timely manner. The unrecorded mechanic's lien may predate the recording of the foreclosing entities lien/mortgage, but if recorded in a timely manner may predate and relate back to a date earlier than the priority of the foreclosing entity.

In Connecticut the Plaintiff in a foreclosure action is required to perform a title search to determine the encumbrances on the property. Those encumbrances that predate the priority of of the foreclosing entity are simply identified in the complaint as prior encumbrances. Those that are subsequent to the Plaintiff's priority are identified in the complaint as junior encumbrances, and are named as defendants in the foreclosure action.

In summary, the objective is to have the appraised value and marketable title value coincide for a property. If they do not someone...buyer...mortgagee or title insurer is going to be rather upset with the outcome. The seller could also be sued for breach of warranty. Without the abstractor's work marketable title can not be determined.

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Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/30/2007 1:34:50 PM (5046 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 1:48:49 PM (3770 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/30/2007 2:15:25 PM (3532 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 2:17:28 PM (3631 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Wendi See/SC
8/30/2007 11:33:00 AM (3694 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
8/30/2007 9:43:50 PM (3660 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - kristin sandman/IN
8/30/2007 10:49:32 PM (3579 views)
Should say "And Wendi" not Any Wendi, sorry n/m - Loretta Reed/MD
8/31/2007 9:37:07 AM (3569 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - george Hubka/MI
9/1/2007 9:49:36 PM (3482 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Norean /GA
9/1/2007 10:51:18 AM (3518 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/4/2007 12:47:50 PM (3579 views)

E & O Insurance - Katrina Harris/GA
8/24/2007 3:32:41 PM (2795 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Loretta Reed/MD
8/24/2007 4:38:49 PM (3897 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - george Hubka/MI
8/26/2007 9:20:56 AM (3776 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Jennifer  Porter/FL
8/28/2007 7:04:38 PM (3696 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 11:18:24 AM (3682 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Robert Franco/OH
8/29/2007 2:33:32 PM (3650 views)




GDocs - power in numbers - Alix Ott/MI
8/24/2007 1:38:41 PM (2706 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - george Hubka/MI
8/26/2007 9:30:10 AM (3794 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - Alix Ott/MI
8/27/2007 11:57:03 AM (3825 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - clay doss/MO
8/28/2007 12:30:09 AM (3753 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - george Hubka/MI
8/28/2007 4:12:34 PM (3757 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 1:47:31 PM (3725 views)

Title Stream paid - Dan Zook/NY
8/24/2007 9:09:46 AM (2166 views)

Mortgage Industry Job Cuts Surpass 38,000 - Jay Duncan/MO
8/22/2007 5:57:51 PM (4032 views)
Re: Mortgage Industry Job Cuts Surpass 38,000 - George Booth/OH
8/23/2007 9:05:12 AM (3667 views)
Re: Mortgage Industry Job Cuts Surpass 38,000 - Jason Sheppard/PA
8/27/2007 11:17:46 AM (3700 views)

India warning - NoName/CA
8/22/2007 3:34:40 PM (2716 views)
Re: India warning - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/24/2007 3:51:56 AM (3884 views)

Home Owners Associations. - Nikky/FL
8/22/2007 12:42:35 PM (2500 views)
Re: Home Owners Associations. - Wendi See/SC
8/22/2007 1:07:41 PM (3814 views)
Re: Home Owners Associations. - Patrick Scott/IL
8/22/2007 1:35:23 PM (4160 views)
Re: Home Owners Associations. - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/22/2007 5:59:42 PM (3975 views)

Pacific Corporate & Title Services - Marc Cohen/MI
8/21/2007 4:59:19 PM (2685 views)
Re: Pacific Corporate & Title Services - Dan Zook/NY
8/22/2007 8:21:47 AM (4061 views)
Re: Pacific Corporate & Title Services - Alix Ott/MI
8/23/2007 6:44:28 PM (3943 views)
Re: Pacific Corporate & Title Services - Lori Cassidy/CT
8/27/2007 8:55:23 PM (4108 views)
Re: Pacific Corporate & Title Services - george Hubka/MI
8/28/2007 4:16:34 PM (4037 views)

Northwest Title & Escrow/ pmt - Jennifer  Porter/FL
8/21/2007 2:19:24 PM (2982 views)
Re: Northwest Title & Escrow/ pmt - Michele  Peele/NC
8/24/2007 5:17:38 PM (4142 views)
Re: Northwest Title & Escrow/ pmt - ELAINA MAUSER/DE
8/27/2007 12:49:25 PM (3870 views)

Attention Floridians! - Robert Franco/OH
8/21/2007 1:28:07 PM (2550 views)
Re: Attention Floridians! - Kurt deVries/FL
8/23/2007 1:35:37 PM (5639 views)
Can't spell 8th??? - Kurt deVries/FL
8/23/2007 1:37:30 PM (5900 views)
Re: Can't spell 8th??? - J Nisonger/CA
8/23/2007 2:19:56 PM (3948 views)
Re: Can't spell 8th??? - Robert Franco/OH
8/23/2007 2:36:22 PM (3939 views)
Re: Can't spell 8th??? - Kurt deVries/FL
8/24/2007 10:42:49 AM (4039 views)

Title Stream - Rebecca Warner/MI
8/21/2007 1:10:09 PM (2693 views)
Re: Title Stream - Wendi See/SC
8/21/2007 2:33:54 PM (4024 views)
Re: Title Stream - MARY ZILGE/NC
8/21/2007 5:10:46 PM (4125 views)
Re: Title Stream - Wendi See/SC
8/22/2007 1:09:57 PM (3999 views)
Re: Title Stream - Dan Zook/NY
8/22/2007 8:39:06 AM (4132 views)
Re: Title Stream - Amy Tatusko/VA
8/22/2007 9:40:00 AM (5871 views)
Re: Title Stream - Dan Zook/NY
8/22/2007 11:49:42 AM (3931 views)
Re: Title Stream - Langdon Knight/MO
8/22/2007 8:27:31 PM (4171 views)
Re: Title Stream - george Hubka/MI
8/26/2007 9:47:36 AM (3844 views)

INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Jill Kissell/IA
8/20/2007 2:04:25 PM (3110 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - KS/IN
8/20/2007 2:29:07 PM (5335 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/20/2007 6:53:15 PM (3954 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Anita Backlund/MN
8/20/2007 7:07:30 PM (3978 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Dan Zook/NY
8/21/2007 9:12:16 AM (4156 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Dorothy Payne/NY
8/21/2007 9:08:10 PM (3910 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Robert Franco/OH
8/22/2007 11:31:55 AM (4036 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Carol Drummet/FL
8/22/2007 2:33:57 PM (3927 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - george Hubka/MI
8/26/2007 9:50:22 AM (4032 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Anita Backlund/MN
8/27/2007 11:35:55 AM (3921 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Rob  Robinson/PA
8/27/2007 11:38:06 AM (4414 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Rob  Robinson/PA
8/27/2007 11:45:48 AM (3944 views)
Re: INDUSTRY PARTNERS TITLE - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY - Shannon Blatt/VA
8/27/2007 10:22:04 PM (3896 views)


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