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So, You Want To Be An Abstractor? - Robert Franco/OH
7/16/2007 2:04:01 PM (2735 views)
Re: So, You Want To Be An Abstractor? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/16/2007 3:26:30 PM (3185 views)
Re: So, You Want To Be An Abstractor? - Laurie Wallace/VA
7/17/2007 10:01:47 AM (3222 views)
Re: So, You Want To Be An Abstractor? - Loretta Reed/MD
7/17/2007 1:00:58 PM (3174 views)
Re: So, You Want To Be An Abstractor? - george Hubka/MI
7/17/2007 4:21:05 PM (3234 views)
Re: So, You Want To Be An Abstractor? - George Booth/OH
7/17/2007 4:35:36 PM (3167 views)
Re: So, You Want To Be An Abstractor? - Jay Duncan/MO
7/17/2007 5:31:23 PM (3150 views)
Re: So, You Want To Be An Abstractor? - George Booth/OH
7/17/2007 6:32:37 PM (3255 views)
...but, that's not all, friends! - Scott Perry/PA
7/17/2007 7:11:53 PM (3223 views)
Re: So, You Want To Be An Abstractor? - Jean Allen/NC
7/17/2007 8:53:41 PM (3149 views)
Abstractor - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
7/18/2007 3:31:37 PM (3336 views)

Lender Services Direct - Chris/SC
7/16/2007 11:08:38 AM (2506 views)
Re: Lender Services Direct - Lori Cassidy/CT
7/17/2007 2:18:21 PM (3283 views)
Re: Lender Services Direct - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
7/23/2007 3:59:40 PM (3146 views)

American Abstract - Gena Taylor/VA
7/15/2007 10:14:25 PM (2777 views)
Re: American Abstract - Anne Gilbert/VT
7/16/2007 7:10:30 AM (3215 views)
Re: American Abstract - Ron McPherson/IA
7/16/2007 9:57:56 AM (3285 views)
Re: American Abstract - Phil McLean/CO
7/16/2007 10:24:42 AM (3225 views)
Re: American Abstract - Shannon Budziak/VT
7/16/2007 7:19:06 PM (3203 views)
Re: American Abstract - Daniel DeBrucker/NY
7/17/2007 11:42:50 AM (3229 views)
Re: American Abstract - Loretta Reed/MD
7/17/2007 12:58:35 PM (3195 views)
Re: American Abstract - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/18/2007 6:43:29 PM (3191 views)
Re: American Abstract - Gena Taylor/VA
7/23/2007 10:36:27 AM (3037 views)
Re: American Abstract - Phil McLean/CO
7/23/2007 12:42:31 PM (3090 views)

Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - Jay Duncan/MO
7/13/2007 10:45:00 PM (3578 views)
Re: Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/14/2007 11:07:41 AM (2983 views)
Re: Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/14/2007 4:07:34 PM (2954 views)
Re: Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - Jay Duncan/MO
7/14/2007 4:50:54 PM (2913 views)
Re: Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - Stephen Williams/MO
7/19/2007 9:34:07 PM (2893 views)
Re: Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - David Robertson/VA
7/23/2007 7:14:59 PM (2855 views)
There are some cities which, by state law, are independent cities. They are not part of any county. This seems to be a difficult concept for prople in states which don't have independent cities.

As others have said, Baltimore and St. Louis are prominent examples of independent cities. As far as I know, they are the only independent cities in Maryland and Missouri respectively.

What really blows the minds of outlanders is Virginia's system of independent cities. In Virginia, there are three types of local govenrment entities. There are counties. There are towns, which are part of the counties within which they are physically located, just like towns and cities in other states. No problem so far. Then there are independent cities, which ARE NOT PART OF ANY COUNTY. This is a hard concept for out-of-staters to grasp. It leads to conversations like this:

DUDE FROM CALIFORNIA: What county is the property in?

ME: It's in the City of Lynchburg.

DUDE FROM CALIFORNIA: What county is Lynchburg in?

ME: It's not in any county!!!!!

DUDE FROM CALIFORNIA: But it's gotta be in a county.

ME: No, it's an independent city. It's not a part of any county.

DUDE FROM CALIFORNIA: Huh? (Thinking: Jeez, I'm talking some ignorant hillbilly!)

There are independent cities in Virginia with populations as small a 5 or 6 thousand people. (And there are towns with much larger populations.)

To further complicate things, some smaller cities share clerks' (recorders') offices with adjacent counties. So deeds for the City of Bedford and Bedford County are in the same office, and indexed together, as are the City of Covington and Alleghany County. But their assessors' offices and all other local offices are separate. Taxes, zoning, subdivision, all separate. And recorded douments must clearly state whether the property is in the city or the county so that local recording taxes can be distributed correctly..

There are counties and cities with similar names. This isn't too bad with Roanoke County and Roanoke City, for example, which are adjacent. But Richmond County is 60 or 70 miles from Richmond City, and Franklin County is 150 miles from Franklin City. On top of that, Franklin City does not have its own clerk's office, but shares Southampton County's.

It can be pretty hard to get somebody in Boise or Bangalore to understand this stuff. There are even more ramifications that I will not get into now. This sort of thing is yet another reason why there is no substitute for people with local knowledge.


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Occupational Tax - Carla Curry/KY
7/13/2007 5:36:26 PM (2588 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Robert Franco/OH
7/13/2007 6:07:56 PM (3156 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Jay Duncan/MO
7/13/2007 6:20:40 PM (3089 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 6:25:42 PM (3070 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/13/2007 10:42:00 PM (2990 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - george Hubka/MI
7/16/2007 10:39:31 AM (3108 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Robert Franco/OH
7/16/2007 11:22:41 AM (3037 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/16/2007 1:03:10 PM (3071 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 6:29:56 PM (3031 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Jay Duncan/MO
7/13/2007 6:34:03 PM (3008 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 6:35:07 PM (3107 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/13/2007 7:05:38 PM (3053 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 8:52:07 PM (2997 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/22/2007 4:33:52 PM (2911 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/23/2007 5:08:59 PM (2901 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/23/2007 5:21:37 PM (2811 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/23/2007 7:14:37 PM (2837 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Jay Duncan/MO
7/13/2007 9:45:08 PM (2962 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 10:59:30 PM (2834 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Carla Curry/KY
7/13/2007 7:19:15 PM (2890 views)


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The Latest Defalcation - Joshua Lukins/IA
7/13/2007 1:10:56 PM (4548 views)
Re: The Latest Defalcation - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: The Latest Defalcation - george Hubka/MI
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OT... someone might know... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/12/2007 8:06:59 PM (2328 views)
Re: OT... someone might know... - Jay Duncan/MO
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Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/12/2007 3:56:36 PM (2588 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - George Booth/OH
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Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Robert Franco/OH
7/12/2007 6:49:26 PM (3157 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 7:02:48 PM (3130 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
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CT Abstractor Foreclosure Search Fees - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
7/16/2007 9:03:33 AM (3290 views)
Re: CT Abstractor Foreclosure Search Fees - Robert Franco/OH
7/16/2007 11:18:54 AM (3088 views)
Re: CT Abstractor Foreclosure Search Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/16/2007 1:14:49 PM (3248 views)
Re: CT Abstractor Foreclosure Search Fees - Robert Franco/OH
7/16/2007 2:09:22 PM (3162 views)
Re: CT Abstractor Foreclosure Search Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/16/2007 3:24:39 PM (3134 views)

National Title Insurance Carrier - Dexter Jung/TX
7/12/2007 9:23:27 AM (2028 views)

Sovereign Title Agency - Jennifer Knott/PA
7/12/2007 9:07:49 AM (2709 views)
Re: Sovereign Title Agency - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 3:03:02 PM (3290 views)
Re: Sovereign Title Agency - Christine Sheeler/PA
7/12/2007 11:36:57 PM (3260 views)

Another request for reduction in fees - Jay Duncan/MO
7/12/2007 6:00:14 AM (2681 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 6:45:28 AM (3164 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 7:05:45 AM (3110 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Wendi See/SC
7/12/2007 1:21:57 PM (3110 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 2:11:08 PM (3141 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Ray Glowniak/CA
7/16/2007 1:40:28 PM (3120 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/18/2007 6:41:29 PM (2896 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Loretta Reed/MD
7/18/2007 6:55:43 PM (3023 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Robert Franco/OH
7/18/2007 7:56:59 PM (2965 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Loretta Reed/MD
7/18/2007 8:21:05 PM (3038 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - george Hubka/MI
7/19/2007 12:54:04 AM (2968 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/19/2007 4:42:40 PM (3013 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Loretta Reed/MD
7/19/2007 7:48:46 PM (2885 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/19/2007 7:52:07 PM (2843 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Natalie Collier/NY
7/29/2007 10:21:10 PM (3069 views)

The Guy In the Ad on SOT's Home Page... - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 8:54:24 PM (2139 views)

More Etiquette suggestions - Deborah Manion/VA
7/11/2007 11:43:35 AM (2498 views)
Re: More Etiquette suggestions - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 6:43:38 PM (3010 views)
Re: More Etiquette suggestions - Jay Duncan/MO
7/11/2007 10:24:00 PM (2973 views)
Re: More Etiquette suggestions - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 6:46:22 AM (2903 views)
Re: More Etiquette suggestions - Deborah Manion/VA
7/12/2007 8:58:45 AM (2966 views)

LandSafe - Scott Aduddell/MO
7/11/2007 8:28:11 AM (2917 views)
Re: LandSafe - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 3:57:09 PM (3176 views)

PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 7:27:15 AM (2635 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Loretta Reed/MD
7/11/2007 9:06:01 AM (3242 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/11/2007 9:26:38 AM (3222 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Kurt deVries/FL
7/11/2007 11:45:53 AM (3104 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - David Jenkins/PA
7/12/2007 3:02:42 PM (4776 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 3:36:53 PM (3111 views)
Back to the question... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/11/2007 12:02:34 PM (3208 views)
Re: Back to the question... - Robert Franco/OH
7/11/2007 2:41:14 PM (3117 views)
Re: Back to the question... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/11/2007 5:03:21 PM (2975 views)
Re: Back to the question... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/16/2007 6:25:38 PM (3013 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Wendi See/SC
7/11/2007 12:58:17 PM (3109 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - PP/AL
7/11/2007 2:16:17 PM (3155 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 3:56:18 PM (3042 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/12/2007 12:15:45 AM (3125 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 6:42:49 AM (2999 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - george Hubka/MI
7/12/2007 7:19:12 AM (3042 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Dianne Barnidge/MS
7/12/2007 8:39:05 AM (3046 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Leroy & Sue Lewis/GA
7/12/2007 8:52:39 AM (2956 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Russ Frye/GA
7/12/2007 8:13:03 PM (3143 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - April Redmon/SC
7/16/2007 10:36:31 AM (3110 views)


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