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Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
7/27/2007 1:42:50 PM (2981 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/27/2007 2:39:37 PM (4010 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
7/27/2007 3:18:30 PM (3962 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Dan Zook/NY
7/27/2007 3:29:23 PM (3882 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/27/2007 3:33:23 PM (3907 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
7/27/2007 3:43:58 PM (3887 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Scott Perry/PA
7/27/2007 6:25:16 PM (3843 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:08:40 AM (3757 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Lauri Bessey/NH
8/6/2007 7:54:53 AM (3913 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:14:14 AM (3714 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Elvin Hill/TX
7/27/2007 5:34:19 PM (3773 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:14:36 AM (3676 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wendi See/SC
7/27/2007 6:31:59 PM (3905 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - george Hubka/MI
7/29/2007 10:43:18 PM (3707 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:15:35 AM (3710 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - REGINA TAYLOR/AL
7/30/2007 10:29:13 AM (3799 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Patrick Tarr/NE
8/2/2007 2:22:23 AM (3867 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:16:22 AM (3756 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Peggy  Taylor/CT
8/6/2007 8:42:41 PM (3791 views)

TransUnion Info requested - Elvin Hill/TX
7/26/2007 3:37:50 PM (2872 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Tempie Elder/TX
7/26/2007 5:54:02 PM (4103 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
7/26/2007 6:17:26 PM (4051 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Chris Meier/OH
7/30/2007 12:07:09 PM (3895 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - TONY BROWN/VA
7/30/2007 5:10:08 PM (3889 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Jill Kissell/IA
8/2/2007 10:55:45 PM (3826 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Loretta Reed/MD
8/3/2007 9:47:29 AM (3716 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Jodi Thornton/MS
8/6/2007 9:56:25 AM (3941 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Rebecca  /FL
2/6/2008 10:41:12 PM (3795 views)

Title Stream - Tempie Elder/TX
7/26/2007 2:14:33 PM (3059 views)
Re: Title Stream - Wendi See/SC
7/26/2007 2:40:10 PM (3891 views)
Re: Title Stream - Robert Franco/OH
7/26/2007 3:15:48 PM (6848 views)
Re: Title Stream - Lois & Glen Morgan/TN
7/26/2007 3:35:09 PM (4043 views)
Re: Title Stream - David Bloys/TX
8/3/2007 1:13:09 PM (5887 views)
Re: Title Stream - Lori Cassidy/CT
7/30/2007 10:22:59 AM (3851 views)
Re: Title Stream - Dan Zook/NY
7/27/2007 10:36:54 AM (3984 views)
Re: Title Stream - Loretta Reed/MD
7/30/2007 10:49:58 AM (3791 views)
Re: Title Stream - J Nisonger/CA
8/3/2007 12:08:39 PM (3778 views)
Re: Title Stream - Loretta Reed/MD
8/3/2007 12:20:54 PM (3756 views)
Re: Title Stream - J Nisonger/CA
8/3/2007 1:17:00 PM (3894 views)
Re: Title Stream - Shannon Blatt/VA
8/4/2007 4:14:51 PM (3876 views)
Re: Title Stream - Victoria Ledford/TN
8/6/2007 8:46:15 AM (5568 views)
Re: Title Stream - Wendi See/SC
8/6/2007 7:46:51 PM (3802 views)
Re: Title Stream - Laura Darby/OH
7/9/2008 12:41:02 PM (3822 views)
Title Stream - Becky Wingert /TX
7/30/2007 1:59:40 PM (3806 views)

NALTEA Benefits - Jay Duncan/MO
7/26/2007 8:45:54 AM (2722 views)
What other benefits would you like to see? - Jay Duncan/MO
8/7/2007 4:53:20 PM (3859 views)
Re: What other benefits would you like to see? - J Nisonger/CA
8/7/2007 7:25:30 PM (3861 views)
Re: What other benefits would you like to see? - Jay Duncan/MO
8/7/2007 10:36:00 PM (3767 views)

Three Arch Capital in CA - Jean Allen/NC
7/25/2007 8:21:39 PM (2850 views)
Re: Three Arch Capital in CA - Dan Zook/NY
7/26/2007 2:35:56 PM (3863 views)
Re: Three Arch Capital in CA - Jean Allen/NC
8/2/2007 10:58:01 PM (3660 views)
Re: Three Arch Capital in CA - Jean Allen/NC
8/15/2007 6:12:38 PM (3759 views)




RELS Abstract - Brad McCollom/IN
7/25/2007 8:08:52 PM (2887 views)
Re: RELS Abstract - george Hubka/MI
7/26/2007 9:20:38 PM (3878 views)
Re: RELS Abstract - Jill Kissell/IA
8/2/2007 10:37:50 PM (3880 views)

NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/25/2007 5:40:58 PM (2537 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 6:51:04 PM (3987 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 6:56:49 PM (4032 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:02:19 PM (4154 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:07:27 PM (3993 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:10:54 PM (3934 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:14:36 PM (3898 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:23:33 PM (4009 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:28:05 PM (3980 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:32:34 PM (3859 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:34:10 PM (3870 views)
Re: Uh...er...ahem - Patrick Scott/IL
7/25/2007 9:11:16 PM (3966 views)
Re: Uh...er...ahem - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 9:22:44 PM (3828 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/26/2007 11:46:38 AM (3819 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/26/2007 11:57:54 AM (3836 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2007 8:43:58 PM (3949 views)

Bravo Wanda!  You stated that very well.  I don't know why Mr. Ahern isn't complaining that ALTA hasn't yet chartered a bank so they could sell mortgages and refer work to their title company members. He simply misses the point of a "professional association."  No matter how well, and how simply, you explain it to him - he just isn't capable of understanding.

No matter how many times we tell people that we have spent many hours working on group discounts on E&O and health care premiums, people like Mr. Ahern just won't understand that those insurance companies aren't interested in offering such benefits until we have enough members to make it worth their while.  That seems to be a problem, as those like Mr. Ahern won't support NALTEA until those benefits are obtained - that is the "catch-22" that perplexes him so much.

Why he thinks that NALTEA has, or ever will have, the ability to "force" VMC's to send more work to particular individuals, or pay them more money when the competition is cheaper, is something that nobody but he will ever understand.  All a professional association can do, and what NALTEA does, is promote the importance of the role of the abstractor.  It's all about educating the clients, and the abstractors, so that they have a reason to "want to change" the status quo.  Unless someone forgot to tell me about it, there is no magic wand that NALTEA can waive to instantly produce huge profits for abstractors.

You are right that Mr. Ahern likes to argue, but he will never be a great litigator.  Litigation isn't about arguing - its about persuasion.  Pointing to a few unrealistic expectations and saying, "why haven't you don't this for me," doesn't rise to the level of litigation.  I don't think it's even an argument - its quite simply whining.

Perhaps he has not seen NALTEA's mission statement:

“To foster better understanding between the membership and others involved in the title profession, to provide information and education to the membership and others, and to assist the members in providing quality service to their clients.”

(No where in there is "obtain more work for the abstractors that they can charge higher fees for completing.)

Or NALTEA's stated objectives:

  • To establish and maintain uniform standards and practices for the profession of land records abstracting by setting forth guidelines for training, experience and ethical conduct.
  • To foster better relationships among title examiners/abstractors and those whom they serve, i.e., title insurers, lending institutions, attorneys and other land title professionals.
  • To provide information and education to the membership of the Association; to members of local, state and federal legislatures having jurisdiction over the land title industry; to consumers; and to businesses engaging in the transfer of ownership interests in real estate.
  • To promote understanding and awareness of the importance of the proper examination, abstracting and reporting of land title records.

(Again, no mention of "making sure that abstractors can make a bigger profit.")

I don't know where he got the idea that NALTEA was going to deliver more work to our members' fax machines.  The purpose isn't to run our members' businesses, I trust they are quite capable of doing that themselves.  Rather, the purpose is to educate, inform, and promote.  Generally to improve the industry - not Mr. Ahern's bank account.  Which NALTEA member promised him that? 

I don't know what professional associations Mr. Ahern belongs to, or which ones would have him, but if one of them is just mailing him money every month, I'd like to join too. 

Thanks again, Wanda.  You are quite right.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 10:10:26 PM (3750 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Smitty Strickland/SC
8/3/2007 7:19:54 PM (3842 views)

real advantage - marilyn snyder/FL
7/25/2007 3:49:45 PM (2893 views)
Re: real advantage - ANDREW MOLLER/CT
7/26/2007 6:28:56 AM (3862 views)
Re: real advantage - Victoria Ledford/TN
8/6/2007 8:48:32 AM (5651 views)

Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - don  sedy/NY
7/24/2007 10:54:29 PM (3489 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/25/2007 11:40:17 AM (4160 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 11:49:01 AM (4182 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Wendi See/SC
7/25/2007 12:02:21 PM (4217 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Julie Jasiunas/WI
7/25/2007 12:40:22 PM (4119 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2007 1:18:46 PM (4040 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/25/2007 4:28:39 PM (4007 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2007 4:38:19 PM (4113 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/25/2007 5:29:52 PM (4099 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Kim Cowles/WI
7/25/2007 5:05:07 PM (4117 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/25/2007 6:30:40 PM (4076 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - george Hubka/MI
7/31/2007 3:08:04 AM (3877 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - KS/IN
7/25/2007 9:27:52 PM (3943 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Kim Cowles/WI
7/28/2007 9:45:55 AM (3973 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Lisa Gilliam/TN
7/30/2007 9:20:38 AM (3834 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - David Shouse/GA
7/31/2007 12:55:05 PM (3811 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Denald McCarthy/MA
8/1/2007 7:21:07 PM (3901 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Andre Thomas/AZ
8/8/2007 3:56:54 PM (3844 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/8/2007 5:04:07 PM (3820 views)

Talk to me New Hampshire people.... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/24/2007 7:15:15 PM (2558 views)
Re: Talk to me New Hampshire people.... - Amy Sandler Komisarek/NH
7/30/2007 8:30:47 AM (3833 views)
Re: Talk to me New Hampshire people.... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/30/2007 9:04:48 AM (3829 views)

JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - KS/IN
7/24/2007 4:29:50 PM (2997 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - Robert Franco/OH
7/24/2007 4:48:40 PM (5992 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/25/2007 4:37:08 PM (4034 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - george Hubka/MI
7/26/2007 9:50:52 PM (3999 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
7/28/2007 9:41:33 AM (3935 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - J Nisonger/CA
7/29/2007 11:51:05 PM (3847 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - george Hubka/MI
7/31/2007 3:12:57 AM (3863 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - J Nisonger/CA
8/1/2007 9:16:37 PM (3964 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - george Hubka/MI
8/2/2007 9:41:00 PM (3847 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/6/2007 6:49:48 AM (3869 views)
KS Please read: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - J Nisonger/CA
8/7/2007 7:23:00 PM (4045 views)
Re: KS Please read: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/9/2007 6:53:11 AM (3833 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/6/2007 6:47:02 AM (3883 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/6/2007 6:44:37 AM (3973 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - Lori Cassidy/CT
8/13/2007 9:27:42 PM (3917 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
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Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/14/2007 5:38:58 PM (3777 views)

payment history - WAYNE QUICK/NC
7/23/2007 7:53:10 PM (2950 views)
Re: payment history - Joseph Weaver/VA
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Re: payment history - Bill Jones/NJ
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Re: payment history - David Shouse/GA
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Re: payment history - george Hubka/MI
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Re: payment history - Langdon Knight/MO
7/31/2007 12:41:58 AM (3825 views)

Abstractor Count and State Licensing - Lynn Hammett/SC
7/23/2007 6:46:06 PM (2008 views)

Just for the sake of debate... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/23/2007 3:17:56 PM (2681 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Robert Breakell/CT
7/23/2007 4:41:28 PM (4030 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Robert Franco/OH
7/23/2007 4:52:12 PM (3775 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/24/2007 10:32:22 AM (3728 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Just for the sake of debate... - george Hubka/MI
7/26/2007 9:58:43 PM (3696 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Just for the sake of debate... - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Just for the sake of debate... - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Scott Perry/PA
7/23/2007 5:16:06 PM (3666 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - george Hubka/MI
7/23/2007 7:43:05 PM (3764 views)

U.S. Land Title - Kurt deVries/FL
7/23/2007 1:49:24 PM (2729 views)
Re: U.S. Land Title - David Nixon/MA
7/24/2007 3:01:29 PM (3985 views)
Re: U.S. Land Title - Jessica Talley/NJ
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