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avanzegroup.com? - Paige Bentley/TX
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: avanzegroup.com? TYSM for the reply!! (Can't post in message, IDK why) - Paige Bentley/TX
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Rene Blevins/VA
4/12/2021 11:35:05 AM (2747 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - george Hubka/MI
4/12/2021 9:53:31 PM (2623 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Serena Stout/VA
4/27/2021 6:21:45 PM (2619 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
5/3/2021 3:01:24 PM (2447 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - george Hubka/MI
4/26/2022 8:56:06 PM (1418 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
4/27/2022 12:59:07 PM (1502 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Ted Williamson/TX
10/12/2021 2:02:23 PM (1867 views)

Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/8/2021 3:22:26 PM (2530 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Brandon ONeal/TN
4/8/2021 3:49:17 PM (2854 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Ron Beavers/FL
4/12/2021 10:29:02 AM (2707 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/12/2021 11:01:20 AM (2530 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Tempie Elder/GA
4/28/2021 10:33:43 AM (2481 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/28/2021 10:44:25 AM (2311 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Alix Ott/MI
5/3/2021 10:33:53 AM (2285 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Angela Sharp/CA
5/7/2021 6:46:17 AM (2450 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Serena Stout/VA
5/10/2021 9:01:34 AM (2425 views)

Thank you from ABN Legal Solutions - William Duncan/SC
4/4/2021 1:42:00 PM (3060 views)

PRO Act Bill - Jennifer Lawrence/AR
3/31/2021 7:37:46 PM (1576 views)

Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
3/31/2021 2:17:49 PM (2317 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - William Duncan/SC
4/1/2021 10:25:47 AM (2895 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Patrick Parrish/AL
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Re: Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Visionet, non-payment - george Hubka/MI
4/12/2021 9:59:21 PM (2542 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
4/20/2021 2:20:38 PM (2503 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - george Hubka/MI
4/20/2021 3:13:08 PM (2504 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Rita Killary/NY
8/27/2021 6:22:23 PM (2112 views)


Real Title Services


So, think I should risk it? - Alix Ott/MI
3/31/2021 2:12:10 PM (2115 views)
Re: So, think I should risk it? - Brandon ONeal/TN
3/31/2021 11:11:51 PM (2533 views)

Remote Online Notary Vendors - Jeanine Johnson/MN
3/31/2021 11:24:43 AM (1798 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary Vendors - Becky Schweitzer/OH
4/5/2021 9:48:14 AM (2271 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary Vendors - Robert Franco/OH
4/5/2021 12:19:01 PM (2162 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary info - Jeanine Johnson/MN
4/5/2021 1:27:06 PM (2440 views)

Abstract Software - Tony Costa/LA
3/29/2021 9:45:32 AM (1568 views)

SiteSolutionsService: ...really!?... - William Duncan/SC
3/26/2021 10:46:12 AM (1448 views)

There: FIXED! - William Duncan/SC
3/25/2021 9:33:06 AM (1514 views)

Abstractor Pro software - Kurt deVries/FL
3/23/2021 2:55:25 PM (2655 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/23/2021 3:23:07 PM (2809 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Robb Grandon/MI
3/26/2021 6:24:14 PM (3238 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Kurt deVries/FL
3/29/2021 12:04:14 PM (2577 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
3/29/2021 1:20:28 PM (2715 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
2/11/2022 11:55:06 AM (1588 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Todd Camp/NJ
4/1/2021 3:08:30 PM (2571 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Andrew Trenary, Sr/OH
5/24/2021 11:00:10 AM (2498 views)

I've been hesitant to reply since seeing this post as I realize I take solicitations and privacy a bit more seriously than others.

I have never used the software as I write my own for order tracking. I ended my company's, what I would call disastrous, professional relationship with the parent (?) company over two years prior to receiving their first solicitation, to which I didn't respond.

I have continued to receive solicitations to our general email, our order reception email, as well as my personal email. When clicking the 'why did i get this?' link in the email, the page states "You are receiving this email because you opted in via our website," which absolutely isn't true. It seems to me that they likely just used the parent company's contacts to populate their mailing list.

We've unsubscribed from each address and, after a few months, we'd start receiving solicitations again. Are they just re-dumping their contacts to the list after an update? I have submitted a complaint with MailChimp, the mailing list platform, but have heard nothing back. I found another email from earlier this month in my spam folder. I do a lot to keep that spam folder empty out of fear of my provider's algorithm getting a little too eager to throw important stuff in there, as I'm sure we all do, so that's part of what finally prompted me to post this.

I don't feel my interaction with the parent company is completely relevant, but it has influenced my take on this. Upon being contacted to provide search services, I told them that they had a few needs that we wouldn't be able to meet. Their solution was to use us anyway and flood our inboxes with emails regarding those needs. It was like asking a pizza shop if they do 30 minute delivery, being told no, and then calling them 20 minutes after you ordered and every 5 minutes after. We're going to say one thing, but do another.

So, when I hear something is against their terms of service, my thoughts are, "How would we know if our client list has been used to solicit work for themselves? I've had clients let me know they've been contacted by others. But if it were to happen as a result of this and you found out, are you ready to spend money to go to court? Would that be effective anyway? If privacy of our contact information is actually a concern, how did I get on the mailing list in the first place? Are they going to treat our information more securely than they treat their own?"

As I said above, I was hesitant to post because it seems like I draw correlations where others don't. But, if I didn't have my prior experiences, I could understand someone being able to take that risk... and possibly not even consider it a risk. I know sometimes as abstractors, we feel we have to take a risk on something because of the way the industry is going. I'm a big believer that solicitations should be opt-in and someone's behavior in one area is a good indicator of how it will be in a similar one. It seems like others have had great working relationships with this company, so that combined with me sometimes being accused of taking things too seriously, kept me from commenting. But, I do have a concerns about the privacy side of this. Between that and the repeated unsolicited emails, I'd feel a bit guilty were I to hear about anything in the future. So, I felt my experiences should be out there.

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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
6/4/2021 6:04:26 PM (3046 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Andrew Trenary, Sr/OH
6/20/2021 8:00:31 PM (2562 views)

...Really...? - William Duncan/SC
3/22/2021 4:01:06 PM (2091 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/22/2021 4:11:44 PM (2549 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Robert Franco/OH
3/23/2021 9:11:22 AM (2344 views)
Re: ...Really...? - William Duncan/SC
3/23/2021 9:32:31 AM (2409 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/23/2021 3:27:39 PM (2380 views)
Re: ...Really...? - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 4:31:50 PM (2419 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Judy Maclauchlan/LA
3/25/2021 10:22:25 AM (2298 views)

"Title theft" myth persists - Alix Ott/MI
3/17/2021 6:53:36 AM (2228 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Becky Schweitzer/OH
3/22/2021 9:58:58 AM (2999 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Kurt deVries/FL
3/22/2021 1:32:56 PM (2536 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/22/2021 2:19:13 PM (2544 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 4:40:23 PM (2532 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/23/2021 6:14:28 PM (2359 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 10:35:59 PM (2381 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/24/2021 12:26:20 PM (2376 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/24/2021 12:26:22 PM (2654 views)

Abstractor Watchdog - DEBRA ALLEN/KS
3/16/2021 11:46:52 AM (2739 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Alix Ott/MI
3/17/2021 6:44:14 AM (2797 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - John Baker/OH
4/8/2021 9:09:46 AM (2414 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Sheila Sten/PA
5/4/2021 1:16:06 AM (2221 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - John Baker/OH
5/4/2021 9:39:09 AM (2290 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Sheila Sten/PA
5/4/2021 6:23:31 PM (2408 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Joyce Froelich/NM
5/10/2021 8:23:52 AM (2425 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - John Baker/OH
5/10/2021 9:23:41 AM (2283 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Sheila Sten/PA
5/17/2021 12:57:19 PM (2112 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - John Baker/OH
5/17/2021 1:15:42 PM (2122 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Sheila Sten/PA
5/17/2021 1:22:09 PM (2230 views)

Best resource for Solar/Oil&Gas? - William Duncan/CA
2/28/2021 1:22:49 PM (1830 views)
Re: Best resource for Solar/Oil&Gas? - Anita Backlund/MN
3/1/2021 12:29:41 PM (2517 views)
Re: Best resource for Solar/Oil&Gas? - William Duncan/CA
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Re: Best resource for Solar/Oil&Gas? - Alix Ott/MI
3/17/2021 6:49:52 AM (2400 views)
Re: Best resource for Solar/Oil&Gas? - Alix Ott/MI
3/22/2021 8:13:18 AM (2249 views)
Re: Best resource for Solar/Oil&Gas? - Anita Backlund/MN
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