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Foreclosures jump 35% nationwide - Jay Duncan/MO
1/19/2007 9:03:30 AM (2744 views)

2007 NALTEA Board - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/18/2007 1:54:02 PM (1841 views)
Re: 2007 NALTEA Board - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
1/19/2007 4:53:25 PM (1853 views)

NALTEA--New Faces - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2007 1:22:07 PM (1775 views)
Re: NALTEA--New Faces - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 3:48:08 PM (1835 views)

Where is this industry headed? - D/AL
1/17/2007 9:07:55 PM (2027 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:16:34 PM (1849 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 3:54:52 PM (1916 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/18/2007 10:57:07 PM (1915 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 11:29:24 PM (1896 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/19/2007 10:04:03 AM (1806 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - john franz/NJ
1/18/2007 3:58:42 PM (1817 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Jeanine Johnson/FL
1/18/2007 5:36:37 PM (1826 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/21/2007 1:07:52 AM (1731 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/21/2007 6:07:22 AM (1771 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - David Bloys/TX
1/24/2007 8:28:29 PM (1852 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/25/2007 10:00:53 AM (1814 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/26/2007 9:27:19 AM (1908 views)

ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 1:22:51 PM (2876 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 9:11:18 PM (1653 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:20:37 PM (1702 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/19/2007 10:16:30 AM (1633 views)




Is E-Filing Secure? - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 8:54:43 PM (2622 views)

Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/16/2007 7:13:42 PM (1936 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 3:52:37 AM (1836 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 7:13:14 AM (1861 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 7:48:17 AM (1798 views)
Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/17/2007 8:10:35 AM (2104 views)

Not a lawyer, from a purely many years real estate paralegal, former residential loan auditor for CT banks:

It is a very fine line, however, for attorney's personal representation to the purchaser/borrower or seller, the attorney is not required to disclose that fee under federal or state law to the other party or lender.  For example, the seller's attorney may be providing personal representation to the seller only, his legal advice and work product having nothing to do with the purchaser's "loan," therefore, Seller's attorney (P.O.C.) [disclosing that there is a fee, however, it is paid outside the closing transaction and that fee is nobody's business but the client's]. For example, the purchaser/borrower's attorney may NOT be the "settlement agent," "title insurance agent," or represent the lender, his legal advice and review of the documents is strictly for the client's benefit (P.O.C.).  In moldy pre-non-attorney refinance days, you would see an attorney's fee on the "settlement fee" line [fee for lender work being disclosed, borrower required to pay a fee which the lender often set] and on the attorney fee (attorney fee for additional representation such as reviewing/negotiating the purchaser & sale agreement) line of the HUD.

Kevin, correct me if I am wrong, but in a nutshell the attorney fee disclosure is for attorney services required by the lender, that benefit the lender, in connection with the mortgage loan, and paid for by the borrower.  What/how disclosed is a fine line. Over many years I've seen it crossed by lenders, attorneys, mortgage brokers, real estate agents, purchasers/sellers (such as cash back deals after the closing outside the attorneys' presence) off the settlement statement - usually without financial harm to anyone; i.e., no one but the auditor cares. Good news is on a regular basis a percentage of randomly chosen residential loan HUD-1s ARE reviewed by independent (lender and secondary market purchaser), state and federal auditors - bad things are caught eventually ... it's a matter of time, luck, and auditor knowledge, which is why over the years the HUD-1 changed and the HUD-1A appeared.

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Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 8:33:14 AM (1924 views)
Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 10:42:55 PM (1876 views)

International company? - Patricia Shaw/MD
1/16/2007 2:43:57 PM (1921 views)
Re: International company? - Craig Honeker/AZ
1/16/2007 3:32:58 PM (3895 views)
Re: International company? - Dorothy Payne/NY
1/16/2007 9:51:35 PM (1843 views)

Datikala Abstract Co/Darryl Rush - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:25:41 PM (1621 views)

Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 5:15:45 AM (1891 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 9:41:55 AM (1799 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 10:34:55 AM (1797 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:53:05 AM (1813 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/15/2007 9:40:08 PM (3905 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 11:09:06 PM (1763 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Jan Forster/NC
1/15/2007 11:24:54 PM (3963 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 12:38:45 AM (3832 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2007 6:43:17 AM (1783 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/16/2007 1:42:16 PM (1784 views)

The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/14/2007 10:30:25 PM (1894 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 12:47:27 AM (4027 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 7:04:23 AM (1806 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Jay Duncan/MO
1/16/2007 9:48:09 AM (1968 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 10:28:22 AM (1813 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 6:30:10 AM (1804 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 9:01:48 PM (1811 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Patrick Scott/IL
1/16/2007 10:58:39 PM (1681 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/17/2007 10:41:52 AM (1811 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/17/2007 5:40:45 PM (1730 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
1/17/2007 9:08:26 PM (1762 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kurt deVries/FL
1/18/2007 12:45:02 PM (1687 views)

ACCU-FAX AUTHENTIC FILE RETRIEVAL SERVICE - Austin Whitaker/NY
1/14/2007 10:21:01 PM (1677 views)

Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/13/2007 6:15:56 PM (2897 views)
Re: Online invoices - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:16:30 PM (1763 views)
Re: Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/17/2007 9:19:14 AM (1657 views)

Oneida County Pulls Plug on Internet Records - David Bloys/TX
1/13/2007 1:25:59 PM (2611 views)

Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/11/2007 1:41:04 PM (3089 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Chris Konzel/NY
1/11/2007 8:26:41 PM (1995 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 5:04:09 AM (4135 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/12/2007 1:36:55 PM (1899 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - george Hubka/MI
1/12/2007 7:42:53 PM (1896 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 9:34:03 PM (1865 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:37:42 AM (1941 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 11:49:43 AM (1829 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 1:30:02 PM (1846 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 2:55:24 PM (1849 views)


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