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NALTEA--New Faces - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2007 1:22:07 PM (1765 views)
Re: NALTEA--New Faces - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 3:48:08 PM (1818 views)

Where is this industry headed? - D/AL
1/17/2007 9:07:55 PM (2018 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:16:34 PM (1833 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 3:54:52 PM (1894 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/18/2007 10:57:07 PM (1893 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 11:29:24 PM (1876 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/19/2007 10:04:03 AM (1790 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - john franz/NJ
1/18/2007 3:58:42 PM (1800 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Jeanine Johnson/FL
1/18/2007 5:36:37 PM (1806 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/21/2007 1:07:52 AM (1707 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/21/2007 6:07:22 AM (1749 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - David Bloys/TX
1/24/2007 8:28:29 PM (1833 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/25/2007 10:00:53 AM (1795 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/26/2007 9:27:19 AM (1891 views)

ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 1:22:51 PM (2863 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 9:11:18 PM (1630 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:20:37 PM (1686 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/19/2007 10:16:30 AM (1616 views)

Is E-Filing Secure? - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 8:54:43 PM (2614 views)

Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/16/2007 7:13:42 PM (1922 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 3:52:37 AM (1824 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 7:13:14 AM (1843 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 7:48:17 AM (1782 views)
Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/17/2007 8:10:35 AM (2088 views)

Not a lawyer, from a purely many years real estate paralegal, former residential loan auditor for CT banks:

It is a very fine line, however, for attorney's personal representation to the purchaser/borrower or seller, the attorney is not required to disclose that fee under federal or state law to the other party or lender.  For example, the seller's attorney may be providing personal representation to the seller only, his legal advice and work product having nothing to do with the purchaser's "loan," therefore, Seller's attorney (P.O.C.) [disclosing that there is a fee, however, it is paid outside the closing transaction and that fee is nobody's business but the client's]. For example, the purchaser/borrower's attorney may NOT be the "settlement agent," "title insurance agent," or represent the lender, his legal advice and review of the documents is strictly for the client's benefit (P.O.C.).  In moldy pre-non-attorney refinance days, you would see an attorney's fee on the "settlement fee" line [fee for lender work being disclosed, borrower required to pay a fee which the lender often set] and on the attorney fee (attorney fee for additional representation such as reviewing/negotiating the purchaser & sale agreement) line of the HUD.

Kevin, correct me if I am wrong, but in a nutshell the attorney fee disclosure is for attorney services required by the lender, that benefit the lender, in connection with the mortgage loan, and paid for by the borrower.  What/how disclosed is a fine line. Over many years I've seen it crossed by lenders, attorneys, mortgage brokers, real estate agents, purchasers/sellers (such as cash back deals after the closing outside the attorneys' presence) off the settlement statement - usually without financial harm to anyone; i.e., no one but the auditor cares. Good news is on a regular basis a percentage of randomly chosen residential loan HUD-1s ARE reviewed by independent (lender and secondary market purchaser), state and federal auditors - bad things are caught eventually ... it's a matter of time, luck, and auditor knowledge, which is why over the years the HUD-1 changed and the HUD-1A appeared.

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Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 8:33:14 AM (1907 views)
Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 10:42:55 PM (1859 views)


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International company? - Patricia Shaw/MD
1/16/2007 2:43:57 PM (1908 views)
Re: International company? - Craig Honeker/AZ
1/16/2007 3:32:58 PM (3880 views)
Re: International company? - Dorothy Payne/NY
1/16/2007 9:51:35 PM (1827 views)

Datikala Abstract Co/Darryl Rush - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:25:41 PM (1612 views)

Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 5:15:45 AM (1879 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 9:41:55 AM (1783 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 10:34:55 AM (1774 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:53:05 AM (1794 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/15/2007 9:40:08 PM (3881 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 11:09:06 PM (1744 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Jan Forster/NC
1/15/2007 11:24:54 PM (3947 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 12:38:45 AM (3809 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2007 6:43:17 AM (1766 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/16/2007 1:42:16 PM (1767 views)

The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/14/2007 10:30:25 PM (1885 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 12:47:27 AM (4010 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 7:04:23 AM (1790 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Jay Duncan/MO
1/16/2007 9:48:09 AM (1945 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 10:28:22 AM (1800 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 6:30:10 AM (1789 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 9:01:48 PM (1796 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Patrick Scott/IL
1/16/2007 10:58:39 PM (1664 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/17/2007 10:41:52 AM (1800 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/17/2007 5:40:45 PM (1715 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
1/17/2007 9:08:26 PM (1747 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kurt deVries/FL
1/18/2007 12:45:02 PM (1672 views)

ACCU-FAX AUTHENTIC FILE RETRIEVAL SERVICE - Austin Whitaker/NY
1/14/2007 10:21:01 PM (1671 views)

Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/13/2007 6:15:56 PM (2885 views)
Re: Online invoices - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:16:30 PM (1746 views)
Re: Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/17/2007 9:19:14 AM (1640 views)

Oneida County Pulls Plug on Internet Records - David Bloys/TX
1/13/2007 1:25:59 PM (2602 views)

Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/11/2007 1:41:04 PM (3079 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Chris Konzel/NY
1/11/2007 8:26:41 PM (1980 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 5:04:09 AM (4116 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/12/2007 1:36:55 PM (1882 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - george Hubka/MI
1/12/2007 7:42:53 PM (1879 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 9:34:03 PM (1847 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:37:42 AM (1920 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 11:49:43 AM (1810 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 1:30:02 PM (1832 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 2:55:24 PM (1834 views)

See you in San Diego! - Robert Franco/OH
1/11/2007 1:02:27 PM (2726 views)
Re: See you in San Diego! - Jay Duncan/MO
1/11/2007 1:17:01 PM (1689 views)
Re: See you in San Diego! - Patrick Scott/IL
1/11/2007 2:44:37 PM (1651 views)

My Brother sent me this today. - George Booth/OH
1/10/2007 5:21:30 PM (1921 views)
Re: My Brother sent me this today. - Jay Duncan/MO
1/10/2007 6:28:10 PM (1718 views)
Re: My Brother sent me this today. - Deborah Manion/VA
1/10/2007 7:46:39 PM (1761 views)
Re: My Brother sent me this today. - Patrick Scott/IL
1/10/2007 11:05:25 PM (1714 views)
Re: My Brother sent me this today. - Robert Franco/OH
1/10/2007 11:40:29 PM (1727 views)


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