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NALTEA--New Faces - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2007 1:22:07 PM (1765 views)
Re: NALTEA--New Faces - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 3:48:08 PM (1818 views)

Where is this industry headed? - D/AL
1/17/2007 9:07:55 PM (2019 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:16:34 PM (1836 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 3:54:52 PM (1898 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/18/2007 10:57:07 PM (1898 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 11:29:24 PM (1877 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/19/2007 10:04:03 AM (1792 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - john franz/NJ
1/18/2007 3:58:42 PM (1805 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Jeanine Johnson/FL
1/18/2007 5:36:37 PM (1809 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/21/2007 1:07:52 AM (1712 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/21/2007 6:07:22 AM (1757 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - David Bloys/TX
1/24/2007 8:28:29 PM (1838 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/25/2007 10:00:53 AM (1800 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/26/2007 9:27:19 AM (1896 views)

ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 1:22:51 PM (2863 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 9:11:18 PM (1636 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:20:37 PM (1689 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/19/2007 10:16:30 AM (1620 views)

Is E-Filing Secure? - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 8:54:43 PM (2614 views)

Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/16/2007 7:13:42 PM (1922 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 3:52:37 AM (1827 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 7:13:14 AM (1849 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 7:48:17 AM (1787 views)
Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/17/2007 8:10:35 AM (2091 views)

Not a lawyer, from a purely many years real estate paralegal, former residential loan auditor for CT banks:

It is a very fine line, however, for attorney's personal representation to the purchaser/borrower or seller, the attorney is not required to disclose that fee under federal or state law to the other party or lender.  For example, the seller's attorney may be providing personal representation to the seller only, his legal advice and work product having nothing to do with the purchaser's "loan," therefore, Seller's attorney (P.O.C.) [disclosing that there is a fee, however, it is paid outside the closing transaction and that fee is nobody's business but the client's]. For example, the purchaser/borrower's attorney may NOT be the "settlement agent," "title insurance agent," or represent the lender, his legal advice and review of the documents is strictly for the client's benefit (P.O.C.).  In moldy pre-non-attorney refinance days, you would see an attorney's fee on the "settlement fee" line [fee for lender work being disclosed, borrower required to pay a fee which the lender often set] and on the attorney fee (attorney fee for additional representation such as reviewing/negotiating the purchaser & sale agreement) line of the HUD.

Kevin, correct me if I am wrong, but in a nutshell the attorney fee disclosure is for attorney services required by the lender, that benefit the lender, in connection with the mortgage loan, and paid for by the borrower.  What/how disclosed is a fine line. Over many years I've seen it crossed by lenders, attorneys, mortgage brokers, real estate agents, purchasers/sellers (such as cash back deals after the closing outside the attorneys' presence) off the settlement statement - usually without financial harm to anyone; i.e., no one but the auditor cares. Good news is on a regular basis a percentage of randomly chosen residential loan HUD-1s ARE reviewed by independent (lender and secondary market purchaser), state and federal auditors - bad things are caught eventually ... it's a matter of time, luck, and auditor knowledge, which is why over the years the HUD-1 changed and the HUD-1A appeared.

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Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 8:33:14 AM (1910 views)
Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 10:42:55 PM (1864 views)


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International company? - Patricia Shaw/MD
1/16/2007 2:43:57 PM (1909 views)
Re: International company? - Craig Honeker/AZ
1/16/2007 3:32:58 PM (3883 views)
Re: International company? - Dorothy Payne/NY
1/16/2007 9:51:35 PM (1832 views)

Datikala Abstract Co/Darryl Rush - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:25:41 PM (1612 views)

Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 5:15:45 AM (1880 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 9:41:55 AM (1786 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 10:34:55 AM (1778 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:53:05 AM (1796 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/15/2007 9:40:08 PM (3887 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 11:09:06 PM (1749 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Jan Forster/NC
1/15/2007 11:24:54 PM (3949 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 12:38:45 AM (3813 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2007 6:43:17 AM (1771 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/16/2007 1:42:16 PM (1770 views)

The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/14/2007 10:30:25 PM (1885 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 12:47:27 AM (4013 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 7:04:23 AM (1795 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Jay Duncan/MO
1/16/2007 9:48:09 AM (1949 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 10:28:22 AM (1802 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 6:30:10 AM (1794 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 9:01:48 PM (1800 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Patrick Scott/IL
1/16/2007 10:58:39 PM (1668 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/17/2007 10:41:52 AM (1802 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/17/2007 5:40:45 PM (1720 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
1/17/2007 9:08:26 PM (1749 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kurt deVries/FL
1/18/2007 12:45:02 PM (1675 views)

ACCU-FAX AUTHENTIC FILE RETRIEVAL SERVICE - Austin Whitaker/NY
1/14/2007 10:21:01 PM (1672 views)

Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/13/2007 6:15:56 PM (2885 views)
Re: Online invoices - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:16:30 PM (1751 views)
Re: Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/17/2007 9:19:14 AM (1643 views)

Oneida County Pulls Plug on Internet Records - David Bloys/TX
1/13/2007 1:25:59 PM (2602 views)

Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/11/2007 1:41:04 PM (3079 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Chris Konzel/NY
1/11/2007 8:26:41 PM (1984 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 5:04:09 AM (4121 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/12/2007 1:36:55 PM (1887 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - george Hubka/MI
1/12/2007 7:42:53 PM (1882 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 9:34:03 PM (1854 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:37:42 AM (1925 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 11:49:43 AM (1814 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 1:30:02 PM (1833 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 2:55:24 PM (1839 views)

See you in San Diego! - Robert Franco/OH
1/11/2007 1:02:27 PM (2726 views)
Re: See you in San Diego! - Jay Duncan/MO
1/11/2007 1:17:01 PM (1694 views)
Re: See you in San Diego! - Patrick Scott/IL
1/11/2007 2:44:37 PM (1658 views)

My Brother sent me this today. - George Booth/OH
1/10/2007 5:21:30 PM (1921 views)
Re: My Brother sent me this today. - Jay Duncan/MO
1/10/2007 6:28:10 PM (1722 views)
Re: My Brother sent me this today. - Deborah Manion/VA
1/10/2007 7:46:39 PM (1768 views)
Re: My Brother sent me this today. - Patrick Scott/IL
1/10/2007 11:05:25 PM (1718 views)
Re: My Brother sent me this today. - Robert Franco/OH
1/10/2007 11:40:29 PM (1734 views)


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