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Anyone have this problem? - Mike/KS
11/4/2006 6:29:38 PM (2264 views)
Re: Anyone have this problem? - Scott Perry/PA
11/4/2006 6:52:40 PM (2088 views)
Interestingly enough, Scott - Mike/KS
11/5/2006 9:07:08 PM (2222 views)
Re: Interestingly enough, Scott - Scott Perry/PA
11/5/2006 10:08:56 PM (2072 views)
Re: Anyone have this problem? - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
11/5/2006 9:27:57 AM (2159 views)
and that's why, Anthony, that many - Mike/KS
11/5/2006 9:08:33 PM (2060 views)
Re: Anyone have this problem? - David Jenkins/PA
11/5/2006 6:48:07 PM (2104 views)
Insightful post, David... - Mike/KS
11/5/2006 9:11:35 PM (2044 views)
Re: Anyone have this problem? - Matthew Sharpe/OH
11/11/2006 7:55:19 AM (1940 views)
Re: Anyone have this problem? - HOPE DEZERN/SC
11/6/2006 8:00:39 AM (2031 views)
Re: Anyone have this problem? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/13/2006 4:37:27 PM (1966 views)

A little love going out...Absolute Property Services - Mike/KS
11/4/2006 5:50:32 PM (2070 views)
Re: A little love going out...Absolute Property Services - Carla Curry/KY
11/6/2006 6:36:19 PM (1941 views)
Re: A little love going out...Absolute Property Services - Sandra Morton/KS
11/7/2006 5:43:41 PM (1870 views)

Surveys - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/4/2006 5:40:35 AM (2004 views)
Re: Surveys - Scott Perry/PA
11/4/2006 8:51:55 AM (2015 views)
Re: Surveys - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/4/2006 9:13:41 AM (1984 views)
Re: Surveys - Robert Franco/OH
11/4/2006 11:00:31 AM (2006 views)
Re: Surveys - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/4/2006 11:44:26 AM (2088 views)
Re: Surveys - Garland Burnett/NM
11/6/2006 11:59:48 PM (1920 views)
Re: Surveys - Robert Franco/OH
11/7/2006 9:27:32 AM (1987 views)
Re: Surveys - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/7/2006 9:45:49 AM (1867 views)
Re: Surveys - Robert Franco/OH
11/7/2006 10:13:49 AM (1913 views)
Re: Surveys - Garland Burnett/NM
11/8/2006 4:54:07 AM (1935 views)
Re: Surveys - Garland Burnett/NM
11/8/2006 5:12:34 AM (1853 views)
Re: Surveys - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/8/2006 6:35:52 AM (1908 views)
Re: Surveys - Garland Burnett/NM
11/8/2006 7:12:49 AM (1913 views)

My Abstractor? - Kurt deVries/FL
11/2/2006 4:31:52 PM (2475 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Scott Perry/PA
11/2/2006 4:42:54 PM (2159 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Dorothy Payne/NY
11/2/2006 11:54:52 PM (2223 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Scott Perry/PA
11/3/2006 11:16:33 AM (2217 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/3/2006 7:07:17 AM (2138 views)
No access.......hmmm - Jay Duncan/MO
11/3/2006 8:27:28 AM (2258 views)
Re: No access.......hmmm - Kurt deVries/FL
11/3/2006 10:03:36 AM (2116 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Leroy & Sue Lewis/GA
11/3/2006 10:06:18 AM (2405 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Craig Honeker/AZ
11/3/2006 10:19:18 AM (2169 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Julie Jasiunas/WI
11/3/2006 10:23:50 AM (2151 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/3/2006 10:27:22 AM (2158 views)
Just goes to show you... - Jay Duncan/MO
11/3/2006 10:55:30 AM (2159 views)
Re: Just goes to show you... - Robert Franco/OH
11/3/2006 11:25:44 AM (2147 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Robert Franco/OH
11/3/2006 11:23:07 AM (3711 views)

A response to Forbes Mag. on behalf of FLORIDA - Laura Macias/FL
11/2/2006 10:59:46 AM (2011 views)
Re: A response to Forbes Mag. on behalf of FLORIDA - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 11:19:55 AM (1940 views)




Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Slade Smith/OH
11/1/2006 8:24:23 PM (2981 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - George Booth/OH
11/1/2006 10:59:32 PM (2104 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Angelica Schneider/IN
11/2/2006 12:34:05 AM (2105 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Slade Smith/OH
11/2/2006 3:11:05 AM (2136 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/2/2006 6:36:47 AM (2185 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 10:18:24 AM (2074 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 10:10:23 AM (2070 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - George Booth/OH
11/2/2006 11:58:08 AM (2061 views)

Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Pete Kisan/OH
11/1/2006 7:04:44 AM (2368 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/1/2006 7:27:24 AM (2152 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Pete Kisan/OH
11/1/2006 7:56:32 AM (3454 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 8:56:15 AM (3580 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 10:32:08 AM (2205 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Danielle Nelson/WI
11/1/2006 5:53:45 PM (2191 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Patrick Scott/IL
11/1/2006 8:59:27 PM (2120 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Slade Smith/OH
11/1/2006 9:15:44 PM (2152 views)
ALTA's response to Forbes Mag - Jay Duncan/MO
11/2/2006 7:58:19 AM (3635 views)
Forbes Rocks - Jan Forster/NC
11/2/2006 8:31:49 AM (2271 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 10:00:02 AM (3413 views)

HAPPY HALLOWEEN - Angelica Schneider/IN
10/31/2006 12:40:16 PM (1706 views)

Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 11:52:33 AM (2494 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
10/31/2006 2:03:24 PM (1906 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 4:28:14 PM (2009 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 12:46:30 PM (1897 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
11/1/2006 2:29:05 PM (1916 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 3:33:16 PM (1822 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Loretta Reed/MD
10/31/2006 10:23:26 PM (1810 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 10:54:44 AM (1789 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 11:14:19 AM (1787 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 11:29:42 AM (1793 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/1/2006 11:35:57 AM (1785 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 11:50:10 AM (1780 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 11:51:35 AM (1753 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/1/2006 12:31:01 PM (1774 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 12:57:20 PM (1798 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 2:06:39 PM (1806 views)

Thanks Wendi.  I do think I take the side of the abstractor, but what is done is done.  Nothing at this point is going to help the abstractor in this instance, except for Contemporary to work its way out its current problems.  I suppose that it would be better for the abstractors if Contemporary were able to get an equity line to payoff their previous obligations.  However, that is beyond the abstractors' control... maybe contemporary is not in a strong enough financial position to do so, in which case it is beyond anyone's control.

I think the problem goes far beyond this particular situation.  It is an industry-wide problem.  In any business, clients or customers for some reason wind up not being able to pay their obligations.  In most business, losses, whether from customers not paying their bills or shoplifting, are a part of doing business and the potential costs are built into their fees.

What makes our business so difficult is that we operate on a "work-now, pay-later" system that has slowly gone from the standard NET30, to NET45, to NET60, and, the fees have been slowly decreasing, rather than keeping up with our rising expenses.  Just today I received a notice that our health insurance premiums are going up again this year, by another 12% to 14%.  Unfortunately, I cannot raise my prices.

This means that our profit margin does not allow us the flexibility to absorb losses of this magnitude.  In fact, we are often not in a position to wait longer than expected for payment.  I find this very disturbing.  Certainly, I do not think it is fair that the abstractors are forced to suffer these consequences, you are quite correct in your statement "Why are the abstractors the ones who suffer when we are the ones LEAST likely to be able to stay afloat."  However, I think this is a symptom of a greater problem than Contemporary's current situation. 

There are a lot of forces at work in this scenario... and unfortunately, we as abstractors have caused a lot of them.  I am not referring to anyone in particular, but the whole group of us.  We work in an industry where abstractors are completely unregulated.  There are no barriers to entering the abstracting business.  This has created a lot of competition.  In a down market it gets even worse because when abstractors get laid off from title companies, they go independent.  And everyone, in order to get new business (or keep existing business) is willing to accept lower fees.  This in turn puts more pressure on the rest of us to lower our fees. 

Now, we find that what may have been an "acceptable" fee when there was more work than we could handle, is not enough to pay our bills when things are slow.  Because fixed costs don't go down when the volume of work drops off, it gets tougher to make ends meet in these situation.  Unfortunately, that also means that when one client unexpectedly isn't paying their invoice the effect is felt even more so.

If our fees would have increased by the same percentage as our expenses over the past 5 years, I don't think that this particular problem would have had nearly such a dramatic effect on anyone.  Please don't misunderstand me, I still think this is a tragedy.  My heart really goes out to Loretta; I can certainly empathize. 

My only point here is that whatever the situation with Contemporary, or any other client  in the past that has not paid their abstractors in a timely fashion, that is a part of doing business (as lousy as that may be).  It is just sad that in our profession it has such a devastating effect.

(Sorry for the long post.)

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
11/1/2006 12:30:50 PM (1764 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Loretta Reed/MD
11/1/2006 3:36:11 PM (1762 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Kurt deVries/FL
11/1/2006 3:49:17 PM (1736 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 3:55:33 PM (1842 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 3:58:59 PM (2009 views)
Enough already... - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 4:43:43 PM (1896 views)
Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 5:31:02 PM (1877 views)
Re: Enough already... - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 6:01:12 PM (1756 views)
Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 6:24:23 PM (1709 views)
Re: Enough already... - Loretta Reed/MD
11/1/2006 6:08:12 PM (1817 views)
Re: Enough already... - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 6:17:50 PM (1708 views)
Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 6:52:25 PM (1723 views)
Re: Enough already... - Angelica Schneider/IN
11/1/2006 6:56:52 PM (1770 views)
Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 7:13:30 PM (1723 views)
Re: Enough already... - Jan Forster/NC
11/1/2006 8:16:40 PM (1675 views)
Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Ted Lannon/MA
11/1/2006 9:05:16 PM (1828 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Angelica Schneider/IN
11/2/2006 12:28:35 AM (1694 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Jim Girardi/NY
11/3/2006 10:33:02 AM (1766 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/3/2006 10:53:44 AM (1702 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - george Hubka/MI
11/6/2006 7:37:03 PM (1716 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - george Hubka/MI
11/6/2006 6:58:25 PM (1650 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jay K/MD
11/2/2006 8:30:47 AM (1687 views)

Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Rich M/ME
10/30/2006 9:05:07 PM (2303 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Ted Lannon/MA
10/30/2006 9:57:03 PM (2231 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 8:35:20 AM (2094 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/31/2006 9:01:05 AM (2113 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 9:27:33 AM (2068 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/31/2006 9:38:13 AM (2113 views)

U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
10/30/2006 11:40:02 AM (2592 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Tamara Henderson/GA
10/31/2006 3:45:37 AM (2310 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Wendi See/SC
10/31/2006 11:23:35 AM (2371 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/1/2006 6:50:40 PM (2146 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Wendi See/SC
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Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Tamara Henderson/GA
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Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Wendi See/SC
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Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
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Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - David Bloys/TX
10/28/2006 10:36:01 AM (3482 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Ted Lannon/MA
10/30/2006 2:44:44 PM (2102 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Ted Lannon/MA
10/30/2006 3:07:45 PM (2174 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Robert Franco/OH
10/30/2006 3:20:20 PM (2201 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 2:12:47 AM (2187 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Wendi See/SC
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - Wendi See/SC
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Re: Contemporary Realty Payment Forum - David Bloys/TX
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Sorry...not really - Jay Duncan/MO
10/27/2006 5:37:08 PM (2109 views)
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Housing Prices Decline - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/27/2006 5:28:54 AM (2167 views)
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Re: Housing Prices Decline - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Housing Prices Decline - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Housing Prices Decline or Off the Market - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
10/30/2006 8:26:20 AM (2020 views)
Re: Housing Prices Decline or Off the Market - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/30/2006 8:41:21 AM (2066 views)
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10/30/2006 3:42:07 PM (2107 views)

ATTN: Firefox users - slade smith/OH
10/26/2006 9:41:52 AM (2059 views)
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