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America's Most Wanted Criminals Aren't - David Bloys/TX
1/9/2007 10:35:15 AM (2774 views)

Who's In Your Courthouse? - David Bloys/TX
1/9/2007 10:10:47 AM (3224 views)
Re: Who's In Your Courthouse? - Jan Forster/NC
1/9/2007 12:12:20 PM (2321 views)

OHIO: Closing Protection Coverage - Robert Franco/OH
1/8/2007 11:57:40 AM (3845 views)
Re: OHIO: Closing Protection Coverage - John Povejsil/MN
1/8/2007 1:26:49 PM (2390 views)
Re: OHIO: Closing Protection Coverage - Robert Franco/OH
1/8/2007 2:35:29 PM (2390 views)
Re: OHIO: Closing Protection Coverage - John Povejsil/MN
1/8/2007 6:12:41 PM (2389 views)
Re: OHIO: Closing Protection Coverage - David Jenkins/PA
1/9/2007 10:31:39 AM (2424 views)
Re: OHIO: Closing Protection Coverage - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2007 1:37:43 PM (2673 views)
Re: OHIO: Closing Protection Coverage - Chris Konzel/NY
1/9/2007 7:43:47 PM (2423 views)
Re: OHIO: Closing Protection Coverage - Patrick Scott/IL
1/9/2007 8:57:51 PM (2318 views)

copy fees - NANCY WALLACE/NJ
1/8/2007 8:59:50 AM (2138 views)
Re: copy fees - David Bloys/TX
1/8/2007 2:32:33 PM (4406 views)
Re: copy fees - Scott Perry/PA
1/8/2007 4:36:27 PM (2336 views)
Re: copy fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/8/2007 4:46:10 PM (2307 views)
Re: copy fees - Scott Perry/PA
1/8/2007 11:41:28 PM (2252 views)
Re: copy fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/9/2007 7:43:28 AM (2390 views)
Re: copy fees - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2007 4:51:44 PM (2234 views)
Re: copy fees - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2007 4:59:01 PM (2261 views)
Re: copy fees - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2007 5:12:38 PM (2186 views)
Re: copy fees - Scott Perry/PA
1/10/2007 8:17:49 AM (2189 views)
Re: copy fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/10/2007 9:49:48 AM (2178 views)
Re: copy fees - Scott Perry/PA
1/10/2007 11:00:33 AM (3972 views)
Re: copy fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/10/2007 11:08:17 AM (2178 views)
Re: copy fees - Scott Perry/PA
1/10/2007 11:10:38 AM (2203 views)
Re: copy fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/10/2007 12:00:22 PM (2162 views)
Re: copy fees - Robert Franco/OH
1/10/2007 9:50:09 AM (2246 views)
Re: copy fees - Chris Konzel/NY
1/9/2007 10:13:33 AM (2155 views)
Re: copy fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/9/2007 10:15:40 AM (2117 views)
Re: copy fees - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2007 11:06:59 AM (2242 views)
Re: copy fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/9/2007 11:24:14 AM (2162 views)
Re: copy fees - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2007 11:35:36 AM (2234 views)
Re: copy fees - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2007 4:36:25 PM (11783 views)
Re: copy fees - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2007 4:54:35 PM (2147 views)
Re: copy fees - David Bloys/TX
1/8/2007 5:08:28 PM (2174 views)
Re: copy fees - Scott Perry/PA
1/8/2007 11:48:13 PM (2093 views)

Criminal Consulting? - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2007 10:34:18 PM (2133 views)
who said crime doesn't pay? - Rich M/ME
1/8/2007 3:55:57 AM (2306 views)
Re: who said crime doesn't pay? - Robert Franco/OH
1/8/2007 11:05:47 AM (2367 views)
Re: Criminal Consulting? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/8/2007 7:37:38 AM (2330 views)
Re: Criminal Consulting? - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2007 1:01:27 PM (4069 views)




Speaking of Doc Edge... - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
1/6/2007 3:11:11 PM (2175 views)
Re: Speaking of Doc Edge... - Jan Forster/NC
1/6/2007 5:48:00 PM (4522 views)
Re: Speaking of Doc Edge... - Matt Papsch/MD
1/9/2007 10:51:14 AM (2438 views)
Re: Speaking of Doc Edge... - Seth Levine/MD
1/10/2007 1:47:56 PM (2265 views)

What about a Court Clerk doing searches? - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
1/6/2007 3:00:34 PM (2139 views)
Re: What about a Court Clerk doing searches? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/6/2007 4:12:15 PM (2406 views)
Re: What about a Court Clerk doing searches? - Scott Perry/PA
1/6/2007 8:37:55 PM (2388 views)
Re: What about a Court Clerk doing searches? - Chris Konzel/NY
1/7/2007 2:01:53 AM (2340 views)
Re: What about a Court Clerk doing searches? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/7/2007 3:56:17 AM (2342 views)
Re: What about a Court Clerk doing searches? - Norean Cashwell/GA
1/7/2007 11:06:21 AM (2356 views)
Re: What about a Court Clerk doing searches? - NANCY WALLACE/NJ
1/8/2007 8:50:01 AM (2423 views)

Revealing my age.. - Jan Forster/NC
1/5/2007 10:00:02 PM (2180 views)
Re: Revealing my age.. - Scott Perry/PA
1/5/2007 11:40:15 PM (2352 views)
Re: Revealing my age.. - Jan Forster/NC
1/5/2007 11:48:42 PM (2358 views)
Re: Revealing my age.. - Scott Perry/PA
1/6/2007 8:34:12 PM (2265 views)

Non payment advise - Christina Dutro/AL
1/5/2007 8:50:38 AM (2179 views)
Re: Non payment advise - Patrick Scott/IL
1/5/2007 10:21:54 AM (2304 views)
Re: Non payment advise - Chris Konzel/NY
1/5/2007 6:30:51 PM (2433 views)

US Title - Wendi See/SC
1/4/2007 9:12:36 PM (2278 views)
Re: US Title - Jan Forster/NC
1/4/2007 9:56:42 PM (2396 views)
Re: US Title - Anita Backlund/MN
1/11/2007 7:08:25 PM (2347 views)

INFINITY - Dorothy Payne/NY
1/4/2007 8:04:08 PM (2292 views)
Re: INFINITY - Wendi See/SC
1/4/2007 9:09:02 PM (2420 views)
Re: INFINITY - Chris Konzel/NY
1/5/2007 8:22:33 AM (2461 views)
Re: INFINITY - Dorothy Payne/NY
1/5/2007 9:54:05 AM (2507 views)
Re: INFINITY - Dorothy Payne/NY
1/5/2007 10:34:11 AM (2417 views)
Re: INFINITY - J Nisonger/CA
1/5/2007 7:31:41 PM (4216 views)
Re: INFINITY - Wendi See/SC
1/5/2007 7:35:04 PM (2474 views)
Re: INFINITY - J Nisonger/CA
1/5/2007 7:56:15 PM (2443 views)
Re: INFINITY - Chris Konzel/NY
1/5/2007 8:59:21 PM (2470 views)
Re: INFINITY - David Bloys/TX
1/8/2007 2:18:41 PM (4234 views)
Re: INFINITY.......I AM GOING INSANE - Loretta Reed/MD
1/15/2007 2:26:53 PM (2373 views)
Re: INFINITY - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/6/2007 8:10:43 AM (2508 views)
Re: INFINITY - Robert Breakell/CT
1/7/2007 10:20:28 AM (2399 views)

American Abstract/National Abstract - Scott Perry/PA
1/4/2007 4:25:21 PM (2334 views)
Re: American Abstract/National Abstract - Patrick Tarr/NE
1/4/2007 7:13:54 PM (2441 views)
Re: American Abstract/National Abstract - Matt Papsch/MD
1/9/2007 10:57:57 AM (2460 views)
Re: American Abstract/National Abstract - Julie Jasiunas/WI
1/4/2007 7:24:35 PM (2372 views)
Re: American Abstract/National Abstract - Wendi See/SC
1/4/2007 9:10:22 PM (2378 views)
Re: American Abstract/National Abstract - Scott Perry/PA
1/5/2007 11:42:00 PM (2445 views)

Contemporary Again - Dorothy Payne/NY
1/3/2007 8:58:26 PM (2187 views)
Re: Contemporary Again - NANCY WALLACE/NJ
1/7/2007 9:45:39 AM (2289 views)

Your opinion please. - George Booth/OH
1/3/2007 12:13:45 PM (2276 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - Jay Duncan/MO
1/3/2007 1:54:00 PM (2586 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - Robert Franco/OH
1/3/2007 2:50:38 PM (2801 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - Robert Franco/OH
1/3/2007 2:45:39 PM (2750 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - Scott Perry/PA
1/3/2007 5:06:30 PM (2665 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - George Booth/OH
1/3/2007 5:25:24 PM (2458 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - Robert Franco/OH
1/3/2007 6:23:52 PM (2411 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - Chris Konzel/NY
1/3/2007 6:41:53 PM (2324 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - Rich M/ME
1/3/2007 9:17:11 PM (2411 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - Chris Konzel/NY
1/3/2007 9:29:19 PM (2339 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/4/2007 9:52:21 AM (2280 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - george Hubka/MI
1/4/2007 7:55:13 PM (2329 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - Chris Konzel/NY
1/5/2007 8:20:35 AM (2349 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - George Booth/OH
1/5/2007 9:18:12 AM (2261 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - Robert Franco/OH
1/5/2007 9:46:38 AM (2301 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - Patrick Scott/IL
1/5/2007 10:46:25 AM (2368 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - George Booth/OH
1/5/2007 11:39:20 AM (2451 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - Robert Franco/OH
1/5/2007 3:23:04 PM (2356 views)
Re: Your opinion please. - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/5/2007 12:19:40 PM (2496 views)

Chris:

If by he, you are referring to me...then for the record, I am a title insurance agent as well as an attorney...as all title insurance agents are required to be in the State of Connecticut. The above questions would be the ones I would ask if a claim arose, and they would certainly be the ones which I would explore if I were representing someone in such litigation.

Ultimately full disclosure is required in order to avoid claims of bank fraud or insurance fraud. Those matters impacting on title to real estate which are objectionable are listed as exceptions to coverage. Many items appear on a credit report or loan application that are never recorded in the land records possibly because they do not impair title.

By the way, it is not that easy to escape conviction for bank fraud by "playing stupid." There is always something in the paper trail that trips defendants up. I know an attorney who did something that he believed quite innocent, but was convicted, disbarred and sentenced to pay a $10,000.00 fine and serve 1,000 hours of community service.

With respect to your water pipe scenario, I assume that an easement, encroachment or reservation of water rights would have been recorded. If so it should have shown up in the land records, title abstract and on the title insurance committment. If not, then I think the problem lies with the recorder's office. In Connecticut the various Town Clerks are liable for negligence, and are not protected by the Sovereign Immunity Doctrine which protects State and Federal employees. If it were some type of prescriptive easement or adverse possession, it would have had to have been held openly and notoriously, and would be common knowledge to all.
I would also think that there would be construction records filed with the local engineering /building dept, possibly showing up in tax assessor's records, possibly improvements showing up in appraisals or surveys/maps..

In so far as your criminal defendant is concerned ...it is a poor example. Remember, defendants are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. He may be completely innocent, and as you say have super credit. In which case the renegging party may be open to a suit for slander of credit. I do agree that if the matter came to one's attention some discussion should be had on the issue, but I assume that this would have been explored early in the loan application process. Usually questions are asked as to the purpose for which the loan has been taken. If there is no conviction and no other title problems, it is difficult to see how a problem would result if the subsequent mortgage is recorded with the appropriate priority.

Even liens filed by crime victims are subsequent in priority to previously  recorded mortgages. I know someone that was convicted on various counts of fraud several years ago. The "victims" were six insurance companies. They filed crime victims liens on any property of the defendant's that they could find...whether or not it was truely subject to their lien rights. I represented a partnership in which the defendant was included and to which he had conveyed real estate. Connecticut has a statutory tenancy by partnership through which property conveyed into partnership is treated almost the same as if it had been conveyed into a corporation. The six insurance companies filed crime victims liens on the partnership property. I was able to successfully argue that the lien was invalid because of the statutory tenancy by partnership. The judge agreed, and the lien was released. So, I have some difficulty with your example.

Finally, I do agree that if an unrecorded mortgage does come to your attention, it should be listed as an exception to coverage to the extent that such inforamtion is available. It can also be covered in the general exceptions to coverage built into every policy. I draft them into every policy I generate.

However, I do not think that all is lost in the event of an unrecorded mortgage not coming to your attention before the closing. Here in Connecticut, the purpose of the recording is to notify subsequent lien holders of the security interest, and to preserve the mortgagee's priority among the lien holder's. It is my understanding that a security interest must be properly perfected by recording or else it is defective. If unperfected, it will be effective as between the signatories to the mortgage, but not against third party lien holders who would have relied on the notice. In such case it would be arguable as to whether there was any encumbrance on the property, and if so it would not take priority over lien holders that had recorded since the date of signing, but prior to the recording.  The lender's option is to sue on the note instead for money damages and to secure the claim through attachment/garnishment of a variety of other assets belonging to the mortgagor...possibly more attractive than a foreclosure.

 

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Re: Your opinion please. - George Booth/OH
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Re: Your opinion please. - Chris Konzel/NY
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Re: Your opinion please. - Chris Konzel/NY
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Re: Your opinion please. - Patrick Scott/IL
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Re: Your opinion please. - Chris Konzel/NY
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Re: Your opinion please. - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Your opinion please. - Sandra Morton/KS
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Re: Your opinion please. - John Povejsil/MN
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