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2007 NALTEA Board - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/18/2007 1:54:02 PM (2115 views)
Re: 2007 NALTEA Board - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
1/19/2007 4:53:25 PM (2538 views)

NALTEA--New Faces - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2007 1:22:07 PM (2028 views)
Re: NALTEA--New Faces - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 3:48:08 PM (2514 views)

Where is this industry headed? - D/AL
1/17/2007 9:07:55 PM (2297 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:16:34 PM (2479 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 3:54:52 PM (2517 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/18/2007 10:57:07 PM (2536 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 11:29:24 PM (2500 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/19/2007 10:04:03 AM (2416 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - john franz/NJ
1/18/2007 3:58:42 PM (2421 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Jeanine Johnson/FL
1/18/2007 5:36:37 PM (2415 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/21/2007 1:07:52 AM (2443 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/21/2007 6:07:22 AM (2439 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - David Bloys/TX
1/24/2007 8:28:29 PM (2450 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/25/2007 10:00:53 AM (2421 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/26/2007 9:27:19 AM (2525 views)

ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 1:22:51 PM (3255 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 9:11:18 PM (2267 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:20:37 PM (2367 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/19/2007 10:16:30 AM (2258 views)

Is E-Filing Secure? - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 8:54:43 PM (2865 views)


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Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/16/2007 7:13:42 PM (2174 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 3:52:37 AM (2493 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 7:13:14 AM (2477 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 7:48:17 AM (2400 views)
Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/17/2007 8:10:35 AM (2766 views)

Not a lawyer, from a purely many years real estate paralegal, former residential loan auditor for CT banks:

It is a very fine line, however, for attorney's personal representation to the purchaser/borrower or seller, the attorney is not required to disclose that fee under federal or state law to the other party or lender.  For example, the seller's attorney may be providing personal representation to the seller only, his legal advice and work product having nothing to do with the purchaser's "loan," therefore, Seller's attorney (P.O.C.) [disclosing that there is a fee, however, it is paid outside the closing transaction and that fee is nobody's business but the client's]. For example, the purchaser/borrower's attorney may NOT be the "settlement agent," "title insurance agent," or represent the lender, his legal advice and review of the documents is strictly for the client's benefit (P.O.C.).  In moldy pre-non-attorney refinance days, you would see an attorney's fee on the "settlement fee" line [fee for lender work being disclosed, borrower required to pay a fee which the lender often set] and on the attorney fee (attorney fee for additional representation such as reviewing/negotiating the purchaser & sale agreement) line of the HUD.

Kevin, correct me if I am wrong, but in a nutshell the attorney fee disclosure is for attorney services required by the lender, that benefit the lender, in connection with the mortgage loan, and paid for by the borrower.  What/how disclosed is a fine line. Over many years I've seen it crossed by lenders, attorneys, mortgage brokers, real estate agents, purchasers/sellers (such as cash back deals after the closing outside the attorneys' presence) off the settlement statement - usually without financial harm to anyone; i.e., no one but the auditor cares. Good news is on a regular basis a percentage of randomly chosen residential loan HUD-1s ARE reviewed by independent (lender and secondary market purchaser), state and federal auditors - bad things are caught eventually ... it's a matter of time, luck, and auditor knowledge, which is why over the years the HUD-1 changed and the HUD-1A appeared.

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Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 8:33:14 AM (2564 views)
Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 10:42:55 PM (2506 views)

International company? - Patricia Shaw/MD
1/16/2007 2:43:57 PM (2155 views)
Re: International company? - Craig Honeker/AZ
1/16/2007 3:32:58 PM (4582 views)
Re: International company? - Dorothy Payne/NY
1/16/2007 9:51:35 PM (2465 views)

Datikala Abstract Co/Darryl Rush - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:25:41 PM (1801 views)

Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 5:15:45 AM (2163 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 9:41:55 AM (2456 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 10:34:55 AM (2487 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:53:05 AM (2472 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/15/2007 9:40:08 PM (4674 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 11:09:06 PM (2449 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Jan Forster/NC
1/15/2007 11:24:54 PM (4659 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 12:38:45 AM (4667 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2007 6:43:17 AM (2442 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/16/2007 1:42:16 PM (2469 views)

The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/14/2007 10:30:25 PM (2177 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 12:47:27 AM (4767 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 7:04:23 AM (2501 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Jay Duncan/MO
1/16/2007 9:48:09 AM (2616 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 10:28:22 AM (2521 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 6:30:10 AM (2484 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 9:01:48 PM (2471 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Patrick Scott/IL
1/16/2007 10:58:39 PM (2384 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/17/2007 10:41:52 AM (2519 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/17/2007 5:40:45 PM (2374 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
1/17/2007 9:08:26 PM (2439 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kurt deVries/FL
1/18/2007 12:45:02 PM (2363 views)

ACCU-FAX AUTHENTIC FILE RETRIEVAL SERVICE - Austin Whitaker/NY
1/14/2007 10:21:01 PM (1848 views)

Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/13/2007 6:15:56 PM (3199 views)
Re: Online invoices - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:16:30 PM (2406 views)
Re: Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/17/2007 9:19:14 AM (2315 views)

Oneida County Pulls Plug on Internet Records - David Bloys/TX
1/13/2007 1:25:59 PM (2867 views)

Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/11/2007 1:41:04 PM (3423 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Chris Konzel/NY
1/11/2007 8:26:41 PM (2713 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 5:04:09 AM (4919 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/12/2007 1:36:55 PM (2595 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - george Hubka/MI
1/12/2007 7:42:53 PM (2611 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 9:34:03 PM (2551 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:37:42 AM (2609 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 11:49:43 AM (2589 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 1:30:02 PM (2539 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 2:55:24 PM (2561 views)

See you in San Diego! - Robert Franco/OH
1/11/2007 1:02:27 PM (3057 views)
Re: See you in San Diego! - Jay Duncan/MO
1/11/2007 1:17:01 PM (2399 views)
Re: See you in San Diego! - Patrick Scott/IL
1/11/2007 2:44:37 PM (2382 views)


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