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Foreclosures jump 35% nationwide - Jay Duncan/MO
1/19/2007 9:03:30 AM (3062 views)

2007 NALTEA Board - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/18/2007 1:54:02 PM (2181 views)
Re: 2007 NALTEA Board - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
1/19/2007 4:53:25 PM (2871 views)

NALTEA--New Faces - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2007 1:22:07 PM (2117 views)
Re: NALTEA--New Faces - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 3:48:08 PM (2853 views)

Where is this industry headed? - D/AL
1/17/2007 9:07:55 PM (2382 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:16:34 PM (2803 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 3:54:52 PM (2821 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/18/2007 10:57:07 PM (2859 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 11:29:24 PM (2789 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/19/2007 10:04:03 AM (2762 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - john franz/NJ
1/18/2007 3:58:42 PM (2729 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Jeanine Johnson/FL
1/18/2007 5:36:37 PM (2738 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/21/2007 1:07:52 AM (2777 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/21/2007 6:07:22 AM (2745 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - David Bloys/TX
1/24/2007 8:28:29 PM (2755 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/25/2007 10:00:53 AM (2723 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/26/2007 9:27:19 AM (2854 views)

ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 1:22:51 PM (3362 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 9:11:18 PM (2598 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:20:37 PM (2645 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/19/2007 10:16:30 AM (2600 views)


Real Title Services


Is E-Filing Secure? - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 8:54:43 PM (2944 views)

Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/16/2007 7:13:42 PM (2262 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 3:52:37 AM (2840 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 7:13:14 AM (2771 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 7:48:17 AM (2687 views)
Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/17/2007 8:10:35 AM (3107 views)

Not a lawyer, from a purely many years real estate paralegal, former residential loan auditor for CT banks:

It is a very fine line, however, for attorney's personal representation to the purchaser/borrower or seller, the attorney is not required to disclose that fee under federal or state law to the other party or lender.  For example, the seller's attorney may be providing personal representation to the seller only, his legal advice and work product having nothing to do with the purchaser's "loan," therefore, Seller's attorney (P.O.C.) [disclosing that there is a fee, however, it is paid outside the closing transaction and that fee is nobody's business but the client's]. For example, the purchaser/borrower's attorney may NOT be the "settlement agent," "title insurance agent," or represent the lender, his legal advice and review of the documents is strictly for the client's benefit (P.O.C.).  In moldy pre-non-attorney refinance days, you would see an attorney's fee on the "settlement fee" line [fee for lender work being disclosed, borrower required to pay a fee which the lender often set] and on the attorney fee (attorney fee for additional representation such as reviewing/negotiating the purchaser & sale agreement) line of the HUD.

Kevin, correct me if I am wrong, but in a nutshell the attorney fee disclosure is for attorney services required by the lender, that benefit the lender, in connection with the mortgage loan, and paid for by the borrower.  What/how disclosed is a fine line. Over many years I've seen it crossed by lenders, attorneys, mortgage brokers, real estate agents, purchasers/sellers (such as cash back deals after the closing outside the attorneys' presence) off the settlement statement - usually without financial harm to anyone; i.e., no one but the auditor cares. Good news is on a regular basis a percentage of randomly chosen residential loan HUD-1s ARE reviewed by independent (lender and secondary market purchaser), state and federal auditors - bad things are caught eventually ... it's a matter of time, luck, and auditor knowledge, which is why over the years the HUD-1 changed and the HUD-1A appeared.

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Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 8:33:14 AM (2853 views)
Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 10:42:55 PM (2874 views)

International company? - Patricia Shaw/MD
1/16/2007 2:43:57 PM (2236 views)
Re: International company? - Craig Honeker/AZ
1/16/2007 3:32:58 PM (4901 views)
Re: International company? - Dorothy Payne/NY
1/16/2007 9:51:35 PM (2784 views)

Datikala Abstract Co/Darryl Rush - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:25:41 PM (1886 views)

Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 5:15:45 AM (2248 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 9:41:55 AM (2746 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 10:34:55 AM (2808 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:53:05 AM (2809 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/15/2007 9:40:08 PM (5048 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 11:09:06 PM (2800 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Jan Forster/NC
1/15/2007 11:24:54 PM (5006 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 12:38:45 AM (4995 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2007 6:43:17 AM (2756 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/16/2007 1:42:16 PM (2761 views)

The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/14/2007 10:30:25 PM (2259 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 12:47:27 AM (5019 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 7:04:23 AM (2802 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Jay Duncan/MO
1/16/2007 9:48:09 AM (2914 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 10:28:22 AM (2809 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 6:30:10 AM (2726 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 9:01:48 PM (2737 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Patrick Scott/IL
1/16/2007 10:58:39 PM (2687 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/17/2007 10:41:52 AM (2798 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/17/2007 5:40:45 PM (2673 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
1/17/2007 9:08:26 PM (2751 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kurt deVries/FL
1/18/2007 12:45:02 PM (2681 views)

ACCU-FAX AUTHENTIC FILE RETRIEVAL SERVICE - Austin Whitaker/NY
1/14/2007 10:21:01 PM (1906 views)

Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/13/2007 6:15:56 PM (3301 views)
Re: Online invoices - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:16:30 PM (2657 views)
Re: Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/17/2007 9:19:14 AM (2632 views)

Oneida County Pulls Plug on Internet Records - David Bloys/TX
1/13/2007 1:25:59 PM (2935 views)

Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/11/2007 1:41:04 PM (3552 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Chris Konzel/NY
1/11/2007 8:26:41 PM (3013 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 5:04:09 AM (5229 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/12/2007 1:36:55 PM (2901 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - george Hubka/MI
1/12/2007 7:42:53 PM (2885 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 9:34:03 PM (2852 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:37:42 AM (2897 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 11:49:43 AM (2842 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 1:30:02 PM (2816 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 2:55:24 PM (2832 views)


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